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<wolfspraul> good morning everybody
<wolfspraul> :-)
<wolfspraul> xiangfu: ah, you are already there :-)
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<xiangfu> good morning
<xiangfu> I saw the message from Mirko. (IRC log)
<kristianpaul> morning !
<wolfspraul> ah yes, right
<wolfspraul> kristianpaul: we are sending your package with goodies today, finally
<wolfspraul> sorry about the delay, but details details details
<kristianpaul> good, atben here to come :)
<kristianpaul> s/atben/at***
<qi-bot> kristianpaul meant: "good, at*** here to come :)"
<kristianpaul> no problem about delays, anyway i'll be out home next week :)
<kristianpaul> so i must wait some days to open it... :(
<wolfspraul> yeah, well.
<wolfspraul> it was a lot of details
<kristianpaul> sure no problem, also travel was un-expect
<wolfspraul> but for example for the rtl2832u/e4000, you see on the list and forums everywhere now how many people have sourcing problems
<wolfspraul> which is totally to be expected and I told you before
<kristianpaul> i guess next week will arrive the *proably* rtl-sdr dongle as well..
<kristianpaul> sure sure i understan
<wolfspraul> so the only way I can deliver something *predictable* is if I do some homework :-)
<kristianpaul> d
<wolfspraul> it's actually all very simple, but amazing how many people like to live with illusions :-)
<kristianpaul> ( btw why nanonote dont ship full vim-full and vim-help? )
<kristianpaul> by default
<wolfspraul> could be as easy as not having space on the 512mb partition
<wolfspraul> it's very full, whenever we add something something else has to go
<wolfspraul> and nobody wants to touch the default partition size :-)
<kristianpaul> ah ok
<wolfspraul> maybe a safe way to start would be an option in reflash_ben.sh
<xiangfu> good. our release build success. now testing...
<wolfspraul> like --2gb-root
<kristianpaul> yeah because tha vi from busybox is helish nighmare
<wolfspraul> wpwrak: do you have any feedback for adam's m1 kicad work so far?
<wolfspraul> I am super happy that it seems Adam is just leading and pulling forward, even though others like me and xiangfu are struggling to keep up though I very much wanted to participate
<wolfspraul> argh
<wolfspraul> I think it's good if adam just charges ahead
<wolfspraul> eventually the others catch up
<wolfspraul> but if you see something wrong, please holler
<wolfspraul> xiangfu: how about that idea?
<wolfspraul> let's say we leave the partitioning as-is, but we add a new option to reflash_ben.sh
<wolfspraul> like --root-2gb
<kristianpaul> xiangfu: oh it include nanomap? i can reflash right now !
<wolfspraul> of course I know the numbers are hardcoded here and there
<wolfspraul> but by leaving the default we can start to offer a 2gb install process without surprising anyone or causing data losses
<wolfspraul> just an idea...
<xiangfu> kristianpaul, yes. it have nanomap
<kristianpaul> LINK please ! :-)
<kristianpaul> or just run lastest?
<xiangfu> kristianpaul, I am not test it yet. downloading..
<xiangfu> wolfspraul, --2gb-root that needs different rootfs.ubi and different kernel. mean re-compile.
<kristianpaul> wait was not 512Mb a plus for fast nanonote boot?
<xiangfu> kristianpaul, you can reflash it by : reflash_ben.sh -d openwrt-xburst.full_system-20120404-1633
<kristianpaul> i actually boot pretty fast right, even more when you disable gmenu2x :)
<kristianpaul> it*
<xiangfu> kristianpaul, after Lars's work on nanonote, 2GB rootfs is not that slow.
<xiangfu> compare to 512MB, it increase 1.5 second. if I don't remember wrong.
<wolfspraul> xiangfu: well, my idea is to keep the --2gb thing a special case
<wolfspraul> I know it's hardcoded
<wolfspraul> but maybe we can find a way to make it patchable from outside, no matter how ugly
<whitequark> you can set up mtd partition sizes from kernel cmdline
<xiangfu> wolfspraul, yes. needs re-compile.
<kristianpaul> or remove uboot from once :)
<wolfspraul> yeah we can also try to parameterize some of those values a bit more
<wolfspraul> xiangfu: no I want to avoid that!
<whitequark> actually
<wolfspraul> and trust me, no 'need', just depends on what you do :-)
<wolfspraul> but anyway, maybe not now. we will surely break something again, which is worst.
<whitequark> you can just dump the mtd partitioning and use UBI volumes
<kristianpaul> whitequark: i remenber boot from UBI was terrible slow
<kristianpaul> isnt?
<kristianpaul> or was something else
<kristianpaul> piwik stats are interesting
<kristianpaul> good wikipedia comes second after google :)
<mth> larsc did some kernel tweaking to speed up mounting of UBI volumes
<mth> one patch was dropped because it broke non-UBI NAND access, but the rest is still in jz-3.3
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<whitequark> kristianpaul: that was yaffs2
<whitequark> UBI is very fast compared to yaffs/jffs
* kristianpaul happy again with nanomap back
<kristianpaul> Thanks xiangfu !
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<qi-bot> [commit] Adam Wang: added MIC2550AYTS usb transceiver into micrel.lib (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/2a25628
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<qi-bot> [commit] Adam Wang: added symbol of AP21X2A dual channel power switch into diodes_inc.lib (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/5bf49fc
<qi-bot> [commit] Adam Wang: added symbol of ADV7181C video decoder into analog_devices.lib (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/f1b67f0
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<kristianpaul> zrafa: i guess you are suscribed to MiPrimerRobot mail list, righ?
<kristianpaul> i think there are hardware guys from argentina there
<mth> larsc: it seems posts to the ALSA mailinglist by non-members end up in /dev/null (moderation queue but no moderation happened in the last week)
<mth> is it possible for you to submit a patch for c21d1d90ee7769968c79d5309a2ea4d96641e46a or would you prefer that I subscribe to the mailinglist
<mth> that's the "replace comma operators by semicolons" patch, so I don't expect any discussion about it
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<zrafa> kristianpaul: no. What does that project do? (miprimerrobot)
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<viric> I may be stupid...
<viric> why I don't get any log level KERN_DEBUG output?
<viric> maybe they are trimmed out at build time by some setting?
<zrafa> viric: maybe the messages are going to somewhere you dont check?
<zrafa> serial?
<viric> I'm on x86...
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<larsc> mth: did you Cc Mark Brown?
<mth> no, I sent it only to the mailinglist
<mth> shall I send it again with him on the Cc?
<larsc> he writes at least once a week on the alsa mailinglist "When sending patches always Cc maintainers!" ;)
<mth> ah, but I don't read the mailinglist, that's where the issue started from ;)
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<mth> I'll resend the patch
<jow_laptop> s
<larsc> mth: but you should always Cc maintainers anyway
<qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: ircstat/: end of March 2012 update (and new script to plot mailing lists) (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/1b9eddf
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<qi-bot> [commit] kyak: gcc-mips: update to 4.6.2; fixed build (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/cb9c2cf
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<whitequark> pabs3: you might be interested
<whitequark> I've been contracted to write a Flash ActionScript 3 decompiler
<whitequark> here's what I have so far:
<roh> whitequark: my condolences
<whitequark> http://pastie.org/3741156 (original) -> http://pastie.org/3741164 (decompiled)
<whitequark> it can also output a token stream like this: http://pastie.org/3740795
<whitequark> roh: hehe, I'm almost done
<whitequark> I only have control flow analysis left, and it's pretty simple
<whitequark> just dominate the graph and the job is done
<whitequark> (well, to talk seriously, you really need to find dominating blocks in the control flow graph)
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<mth> larsc: you were right: Mark applied the patch within 10 minutes of me sending it :)