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<kyak>
viric: another small patch :)
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<viric>
kyak: patch rejected ;) You didn't write a button
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<kyak>
viric: i know, but it's the way the other links are handled
<kyak>
hmm
<kyak>
crawlers? do you expose your feeds to the Internet? :)
<kyak>
lol, they will indeed follow it and mark your feeds as read
<whitequark>
if you do, PLEASE make sure you do not invoke any destructive actions on GET
<kyak>
that's funny
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<kyak>
this is kinds what happens, whitequark :)
<whitequark>
I've been bitten by that, a delete link for a torrent web frontend which responded to GET
<whitequark>
fucking PHP
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<kyak>
first two links, then a button
<kyak>
wondering why crawlers are not followign buttons though
<kyak>
perhaps some do?
<whitequark>
kyak: that's hardcoded
<whitequark>
crawlers only do GETs.
<whitequark>
well, unless they are malicious.
<whitequark>
Rails has a js plugin which makes the link send a POST when you click on it, or PUT/DELETE if that's semantic.
<whitequark>
you might want to employ this technique too.
<kyak>
wait a second.. all of these button are GET :)
<whitequark>
then crawlers might follow them.
<kyak>
and they probably will
<kyak>
viric: all your feeds are belong to crawlers ;)
<whitequark>
this is webdev 101 ;)
<kyak>
well.. there are individual "mark as read" button per each item - which are also GET
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<whitequark>
also here is a nice overview of attacks which will be applied to your webapp if it is ever exposed to the public internet: http://guides.rubyonrails.org/security.html
<viric>
kyak: but crawlers don't follow form buttons
<kyak>
viric: how about making all three links on the main page as buttons?
<viric>
ok, but we should write some function that writes buttons easily
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<kyak>
yeah, there are plentyfull of bad things that can happen, but i really don't plan to expose it to internet. and i don't have too. At worst, i'll be running it on my server and tunneling the thing via ssh
<kyak>
viric: yeah, buttons handling is bad now.. Mainly because we need to construct the whole query, as i mentioned before - so each button form has inputs for all other possible states
<viric>
but that can be made a function
<viric>
I'm busy with another thing now though :)
<kyak>
sure, it makes sense
<kyak>
are the params of the function fixed? like the first one is "show read", second "local images" so on?
<kyak>
just passing booleans to this function
<kyak>
or maybe pass "param-value" as text?
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<whitequark>
fuck
<whitequark>
rumor has it that they (the govt, bribed by 3G operators in Moscow) want to withdraw the rights to the 4G spectrum from the only sane operator
<whitequark>
if that happens I'm fucking leaving this fucking country
<whitequark>
because the spectrum apparently should have been auctioned or whatever
<kyak>
ЭРОС ^)
<whitequark>
they already did that once, removing the WiMAX spectrum from the same operator. they proceeded to give an LTE modem to each of their clients, by courier, in a few days
<whitequark>
I don't even want to know how much did that cost
<kyak>
so what's going to happen? The spectrum, which is now solely owned by one company (for not so obvious reasons), will be auctioned
<whitequark>
this probably was the only thing made in Russia of which I was truly proud. argh.
<whitequark>
kyak: you don't understand
<whitequark>
for more than 15 years a cartel of three operators exist. MTS, Beeline and Megafon
<kyak>
indeed
<whitequark>
they do everything possible in order to forbid anyone else from entering the moscow market
<whitequark>
Tele2 e.g.
<kyak>
also true
<whitequark>
Yota is very obviously a threat to them
<whitequark>
I heard Yota has planned a VoLTE service
<whitequark>
this was probably a fatal decision for them
<whitequark>
it is well known that spectrum auctions here are unfair, at best, or rigged
<kyak>
i'm not sure about that.. Yota was not doing well recently.. They closed several of their services, like Yota music
<kyak>
the quality of their service is also degrading, as i hear
<whitequark>
(unfair because you e.g. cannot start deploy your network if you don't have spectrum, *and* you have to pay for spectrum even while the network isn't deployed)
<whitequark>
kyak: degrading? not so, it is very good, from my experience
<kyak>
and it's not quite clear why a single company owns the spectrum anyway..
<whitequark>
that's a solid 1Mbit practically everywhere in the city
<kyak>
so it wasnt right from the very beginning
<whitequark>
before you start about "right things", please proceed to disband the cartel.
<whitequark>
otherwise it's plain hypocritical.
<kyak>
Yota is the same "band". .nothing different
<whitequark>
yes, there IS a difference
<kyak>
so it's just another fight between bandits
<whitequark>
namely yota doesn't try to rob ME. they offer a great service for sane price.
<kyak>
they are fighting for the money, we get to watch
<whitequark>
I don't fucking care
<whitequark>
I don't know if you're right about the rights to the spectrum or not
<kyak>
if they had a competitor, the price would be completely different. have a look at cable providers. I'm paying the same price for 8 years now, and my speed increased from 128 kbit to 80 mbit
<whitequark>
it might be either way
<whitequark>
kyak: um what? it's the cartel which should have a competitor
<whitequark>
and they obviously see one and try to deal with it
<kyak>
yes, they should have a competitor as well, i agree
<kyak>
everyone should have a competitor
<whitequark>
Yota is good enough so that I bought a $450 smartphone specifically to use with their spectrum
<whitequark>
it would be a pity if they die before I have a chance on that :D
<kyak>
what's that beast you got? :)
<whitequark>
LGE971, basically Nexus 4 with LG firmware and LTE
<whitequark>
will reflash to cyanogenmod obviously
<kyak>
you will have a chance if you come visit Sochi.. probably
<whitequark>
hm?
<kyak>
there are plans to deploy LTE there
<whitequark>
Megafon already has LTE AFAIK
<whitequark>
but it's nowhere near Yota
<whitequark>
plus it arrives tomorrow so...
<kyak>
hm.. what;s so different?
<whitequark>
kyak: yota is strictly unlimited, no traffic shaping (download torrents or stream video as long as you want), and you pay for the reserved bandwidth
<whitequark>
which you can update at any moment
<whitequark>
megafon obviously has much stricter and less advantageous to me options
<kyak>
btw, does Yota work in the metro?
<whitequark>
kyak: nope, but neither does any operator except Beeline
<whitequark>
and Beeline's service is sub-par everywhere, much so in the metro.
<kyak>
well, i'm sure yota is going to be just fine there.. The people behind it are not simpletons as well
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<mwcampbell>
I read that the battery life of the Ben has been measured at about 13 hours when the computer is turned on and idle, with the screen off. That doesn't seem like good battery life for an idle system. Is there any potential for improving power management at the OS level?
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<larsc>
well you can always suspend the system, in suspend the battery lasts a few weeks
<mwcampbell>
ah, I didn't know the Ben had a suspend mode.
<larsc>
newer kernels even have that android optimistic suspend support, so the system goes to suspend when it is idle
<mwcampbell>
How can the Ben be awakened from its suspended state? Does it have to be via the keyboard, or can it also be triggered by a timer or microSDIO card?
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