hsbt_away changed the topic of #ruby-core to: check the latest release candidate for 1.9.1 release ftp.ruby-lang.org:/home/yugui/ruby-1.9.1-r26021+1.tar.bz2
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<znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:32405] nobu:r44484 (trunk): mkrunnable.rb: fix DLL path on Windows - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=32405
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<znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:32406] glass:r44485 (trunk): * io.c (io_fwrite): freeze converted str. - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=32406
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<postmodern> anyone awake?
<postmodern> people on reddit are complaining about the new Semantic Versioning policy
<postmodern> "MINOR: increased every christmas, may be API incompatible"
<postmodern> MINOR should only be incremented when additional features are added
<postmodern> incrementing MINOR when no new features were added would break semver
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<samkottler> postmodern: wait, someone on reddit complained about something?!
<samkottler> although they're right :)
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<znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:32407] eregon:r44486 (trunk): * ext/bigdecimal: update class method call style from :: to . - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=32407
<znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:32408] svn:r44487 (trunk): * 2014-01-03 - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=32408
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<dogweather> Hey everyone, there's some consternation out here about the new semantic or not-so-semantic versioning. Anybody have an opinion?
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<drbrain_> dogweather: in what regard?
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<dogweather> People are interpreting the latest Ruby news releases to mean that semantic versioning will start with 2.1.0. But then when reading the details of the versioning plan, it doesn't appear to be semantic.
<dogweather> For example, minor version numbers are to be incremented each Christmas.
<havenwood> dogweather: functionality will be added in a backwards compatible manner for minor releases, which is entirely compatible with sem ver
<havenwood> dogweather: semantic versioning doesn't prohibit releasing code on any day or hour of your choosing
<havenwood> just that it follow the MUST, MUST NOT, etc, which afaik are followed so I think it is all good
<dogweather> havenwood: I read this to mean that minor version release will *not* be backwards compatible: "Backwards incompatible changes or additions"
<dogweather> Also: "MINOR: Increase at each December 25th; may be API incompatible" https://gist.github.com/sorah/7803201
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<havenwood> dogweather: hmm, good point on "may be API incompatible" for MINOR, i dunno
<drbrain> its probably worth bringing up on the issue
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<zzak> *will* not and *may* not are different
<zzak> its hard to guarantee compatibility with library releases
<zzak> many smaller stdlibs are largely untested
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