hsbt_away changed the topic of #ruby-core to: check the latest release candidate for 1.9.1 release ftp.ruby-lang.org:/home/yugui/ruby-1.9.1-r26021+1.tar.bz2
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<zzak> soraher: i am confirming reschedule of conference room for thursday
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<soraher> zzak: Sorry we can't provide place on Thursday, Just checked meeting rooms availability, there's no room available
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<zzak> :(
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<soraher> zzak: rails tokyo meetup held on thursday, our HR team seems locked nearby meeting rooms. If attendees can accept loud environment, we can provide there
<soraher> zzak: but room already booked for Friday has blocked with another schedule on Thursday, so we provide smaller room (6 or 7 people) if we change the schedule for Thursday
<zzak> hmm
<zzak> our option is:
<zzak> * small meeting room thursday (6-7 people) at cookpad
<zzak> * bigger meeting room friday (8-10 people) at cookpad
<soraher> yep
<soraher> hsbt can attend only via Skype on Thursday http://twitter.com/hsbt/status/407338229528924160
<zzak> * maybe salesforce on thursday/friday
<soraher> matz can attend on Thursday
<zzak> need to check with usa and shyouhei
<zzak> about thursday
<soraher> naruse-san wants to determine what's people needed to attend, so I recommend to write agenda first :)
<zzak> ok
<soraher> (who needs to attend - nits)
<zzak> i will add them now
<nurse> If a topic needs a person who can't attend the meeting, the topic is hard to discuss.
<zzak> agree
<zzak> ok i've added my items
<zzak> headius: ping! do you have any items to add to the agenda?
<zzak> i'd like to give some time to NA committers to update agenda (they are still full from thanksgiving :)
<zzak> nurse: soraher ^
<soraher> sure
<zzak> いってきます
<soraher> どこへ
<soraher> zzak: where are you going to...?
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<samkottler> zzak: I'm samkottler on redmine, too
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<soraher> back
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<drbrain> ha, I have been nominated for net/smtp maintainership
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<znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:31875] drbrain:r43954 (trunk): * lib/net/smtp.rb (Net::SMTP#critical): Always return a - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=31875
<zzak> drbrain: congrats!
<drbrain> well, nominated is a strong word
<drbrain> but I fixed a bug after being asked to check it ↑
<zzak> a+ will ask to commit again
<zzak> drbrain: what time is it?
<drbrain> 21:30
<drbrain> Pacific
<zzak> samkottler: i think you have to be a committer, can you send me your agenda items?
<zzak> samkottler: it also helps to have a ticket associated with the agenda item
<zzak> or at least discussion
<zzak> drbrain: im going to SFDC in a few to hack, can we go through some rdoc stuff together?
<drbrain> sure
<drbrain> what is SFDC?
<zzak> drbrain: also, are you free to help moderate the developer meeting via irc thursday or friday JST?
<zzak> salesforce
<drbrain> ah, nice
<zzak> soraher: have you heard from leonard about if he is free either night?
<drbrain> Thursday Pacific Time I am PDX
<zzak> drbrain: matz is only available thursday jst
<drbrain> Friday Pacific Time I will be having my eyes dilated
<drbrain> so I will be unable to see anything as small as text for several hours
<znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:31876] a_matsuda:r43955 (trunk): * lib/csv.rb: [DOC] Fix typos - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=31876
<zzak> drbrain: seems like the meeting will be around 4-5am PST :/
<zzak> on thursday
<drbrain> I am not going to be awake for that
<zzak> no worries, im hoping leonard can make it!
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<zzak> drbrain: i will be back online in about 30-40 minutes
<drbrain> zzak: I might not be!
<soraher> zzak: wait, i'll ask him (sorry forLate reply)
<soraher> zzak: he's Dic
<soraher> oops
<soraher> zzak: his schedule on Thursday night is free, he can help us
<zzak> drbrain: im back
<zzak> soraher: great, thanks for checking!
<soraher> zzak: Asking Leo again for case that if we decided to use Salesforce
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<soraher> zzak: he's okay to go salesforce's room and our room, both
<zzak> soraher: great, thank you!
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<charliesome> n0kada0 / n0kada_: if you're around, are you able to look at https://github.com/ruby/ruby/pull/461? thanks :)
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<zzak> charliesome: hi
<zzak> i can ask koichi later if you want, also it would be good if you could add any meeting agenda items to the wiki
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<charliesome> zzak: I asked ko1 and he said to ask nobu
<charliesome> it's just a minor perf patch, nothing that needs to be discussed at the meeting
<_ko1> nobu said it seems not serial
<_ko1> we need to measure dense
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<zzak> charliesome: no worries, anything else you would like discussed?
<charliesome> zzak: nothing that isn't on the list already
<charliesome> i'll be attending the meeting to throw my support behind #8835 ;)
<charliesome> although I think we should ditch the patchlevel completely and just use x.y.z
<charliesome> _ko1: ah ok, i'll gather some stats
<zzak> charliesome: i hope knu can go
<charliesome> bbl
<hsbt> zzak: I confused this week MTG, What's difference agenda of Thursday and Friday?
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<zzak> hsbt: matz is available
<zzak> also, we can reserve conferences rooms for both days
<zzak> whatever we dont cover with matz on thursday, we can discuss on friday
<zzak> matz can only go thursday
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<zzak> can someone ping shyouhei and yugui about either day?
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<hsbt> I think thursday meeting is suddenly. If we couldn't invite key person, we shouldn't decide important things.
<zzak> hsbt: agree, agenda depends on attendance
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<zzak> hsbt: did you resolve the issue with travis autodeploy?
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<hsbt> not resolved
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<znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:31878] glass:r43957 (trunk): * hash.c (rb_hash_rehash): make temporary st_table under the control - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=31878
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<znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:31879] usa:r43958 (trunk): * hash.c (getenv): fixed test failures introduced by r43950. - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=31879
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<znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:31880] nagachika:r43959 (ruby_2_0_0): merge revision(s) 43853: [Backport #9157] - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=31880
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<znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:31881] nagachika:r43960 (ruby_2_0_0): merge revision(s) 39594, 39596: [Backport #8010] - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=31881
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<znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:31882] nagachika:r43961 (ruby_2_0_0): merge revision(s) 43929: [Backport #9178] - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=31882
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<hone> hello!
<drbrain> hello!
<hone> drbrain: do you use git-svn?
<drbrain> no
<hone> hmm
<drbrain> I'm to old to learn such newfangled things
<hone> svn straight up?
<drbrain> yes
<drbrain> I usually don't have to do fancy stuff, though
<drbrain> most of my ruby commits come from rubygems/rdoc repos as a big bundle of merging
<hone> drbrain: what steps do I need to push my backports upstream?
<hone> yeah
<hone> it's kind of not 100% accurate :-/
<drbrain> yeah
<hone> like you can't use tool/merger.rb in ruby 1.8.7/1.9.2
<hone> it was added in ruby 1.9.3
<drbrain> you can backport it!
<hone> !
<hone> should I backport it?
<drbrain> if it makes your life as a committer easier, yes
<drbrain> I follow the "Always build outside of $(srcdir)" method
<drbrain> so I have ruby/trunk and ruby/build, ruby/branches/ruby_2_0_0 and ruby/build_2_0
<drbrain> then I make my changes in ruby/trunk (since I'm not a branch maintainer)
<drbrain> and run: make all test-all TESTS=-j12
<samkottler> zzak: most of the major items are covered, but it's worth noting that RHEL is still on 1.8.7. I'd be maintaining 1.9.2 individually for the short term.
<drbrain> from build
<samkottler> 1.9.3 is where we'll want a longer support period
<drbrain> then: make change
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<drbrain> edit changelog.txt (in build/) and use it to update ChangeLog (in trunk/)
<drbrain> err, change.log, not changelog.txt
<drbrain> then, to commit svn ci -F ../build/change.log
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<hone> $ make test-all
<hone> ./miniruby -I./lib -I.ext/common -I./- -r./ext/purelib.rb ./runruby.rb --extout=.ext -- "./test/runner.rb" --basedir="./test" --runner=console
<drbrain> ↑ looks right
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<drbrain> hone: if you're going to be editing VM/interpreter stuff, run `make test` also
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<hone> drbrain: i assume the sec stuff falls under that
<drbrain> which?
<drbrain> if you edit eval.c (1.8.7) or vm* (1.9+) run make test before committing
<drbrain> if you edit other files, you probably only need to run make test-all
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