hsbt_away changed the topic of #ruby-core to: check the latest release candidate for 1.9.1 release ftp.ruby-lang.org:/home/yugui/ruby-1.9.1-r26021+1.tar.bz2
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<hsbt> zzak: Thank you, Submitting pull request to www.ruby-lang.org.
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<zzak> hsbt: どうたしまして!
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<hone> hsbt: ping
<hsbt> hi
<hone> did zzak talk to you about hosting git+svn snapshots?
<zzak> not yet
<hone> zzak said git+svn was an option for committing to ruby, but it took me 3+ days to do fresh clone :(
<hone> i'm wondering if we can setup tarballs
<hone> then you can just do git+svn fetch
<hone> well, I haven't tested it across users, but I'll try to do that with zzak tomorrow
<zzak> hsbt: do you think we can setup an official mirror?
<zzak> hsbt: also, could we get ftp access?
<hone> but the idea is that you'd download the tarball and then run a command to fetch the diff instead having to fetch everything and having git+svn map svn revisions to git shas
<hsbt> hone: I'll prepare to provide svn snapshots to you. git-svn is very slow too in japan at first :(
<hone> hsbt: i think it's a cpu vs network problem
<hone> it has to map all the git shas with svn revisions and it's just slow :(
<hone> but I figure we could setup a script to easily do it
<hsbt> zzak: I think we shouldn't setup another mirror of svn, because we shouldn't to reduce time and resource for subversion problem.
<hone> hsbt: how often do you do svn snapshots?
<hsbt> s/reduce/spent
<zzak> hsbt: i agree, it would be great to just use git.. but seems like a quick workaround instead of total git migration
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<zzak> hsbt: /wi 1
<zzak> mt
<hone> hsbt: we will get back to you on the git+svn thing
<hone> if our tests work, we can proceed
<hone> if it does, I'd like to write a script to build it and push to ftp.ruby-lang.org
<hone> we can just make a heroku app and put it under ruby-core, so everyone has access to it
<hsbt> In my situation, I run git-svn clone only trunk branch
<hsbt> hone: I think better that you can use subversion and checkout only ruby_1_8_7 directly in backport commit.
<hone> does git-svn only work on trunk?
<hsbt> no
<hsbt> charliesome's gits is same as my env.
<hone> zzak: interesting.
<zzak> it should reduce network time
<zzak> right?
<charliesome> that lets you turn a git clone of a git-svn repo into a working git-svn repo
<hone> zzak: I don't think it's network time, but it should reduce time.
<hone> we should document this :D
<zzak> you read my mind
<zzak> "new committer guide"
<charliesome> we should document it
<charliesome> i have to rediscover that trick every time I set up a new machine
<hone> zzak: I think i've been talking to you a lot, you're rubbing off on me
<hone> i mean, tarballs might still be nice
<hone> :)
<zzak> haha
<zzak> hone: make a ticket and assign it to yourself :D
<hone> but this should be good for now
<hone> is there a new committer guide?
<hone> there's the one you linked me to
<zzak> there is but its bad
<zzak> im working on migrating those old wiki guides to trunk and www- pages
<zzak> some of them are very dated
<zzak> its better to maintain them in trunk
<zzak> especially once we finish docs.ruby-lang.org ;)
<hone> zzak: what ar www-pages?
<zzak> i just mean www.ruby-lang.org documentation pages
<hone> i assume you mean here? https://github.com/ruby/ruby/tree/trunk/doc
<zzak> hone: those pages will be available on docs.ruby-lang.org
<zzak> the main difference is developer documentation vs. user documentation
<hone> zzak: how do I help you finish this stuff?
<zzak> i was held up by hacking rurema (the japanese docs), so we can run them on heroku
<hsbt> hone: I discussion and prepare to more speed up your development like git-svn in asakusa.rb
<zzak> hsbt: thanks!
<hone> hsbt: thanks!
<hsbt> In my opinion, our master repository should move to github.
<hone> hsbt: i'd like that, post 2.1.0 we should try to find out all the things we need to do to make this happen
<hone> update backport tools, etc.
<zzak> hsbt: ofcourse
<hone> but I think a fast git-svn solution might help.
<hsbt> but we have a lot of issues like packaging, workflow, windows environment, release number etc...
<zzak> backport tools should stay compatible with old branches
<hsbt> we need to discussion next year :)
<hone> hsbt: can't we use git http for windows?
<zzak> fast git-svn will alleviate temporarily
<hone> hsbt: yes, I think we just need to sit down and figure out how to solve everything
<hone> and then we can make it happen :)
<zzak> its my top candidate for oedo ruby kaigi talk
<hone> zzak: !!
<zzak> maybe sooner
<hone> <3 <3
<zzak> brb
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<travis-ci> [travis-ci] The build was fixed. by @nobu: See http://travis-ci.org/ruby/ruby/builds/15226865
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<zzak> hsbt: any update on the git-svn stuff? i saw shyouhei's post but havent translated it yet
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<travis-ci> [travis-ci] The build passed. by @drbrain: See http://travis-ci.org/ruby/ruby/builds/15245689
<drbrain> \o/
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