<eggman2001>
erikh: I would, but rails c loads up pry. i'm not sure offhand how to revert to the rails console
<erikh>
ah, ok
<injekt>
:|
<injekt>
that's a massive cluster fuck
<erikh>
I think it's rails, actually
<injekt>
remove it from your ~/.irbrc
<erikh>
I know it has ST trimming code.
<injekt>
it does?
<erikh>
injekt: nah, $10 it's a rails plugin
<erikh>
injekt: yeah.
<erikh>
err, I mean the pry integration is a rails plugin
<erikh>
not the stack trimming
<injekt>
ah
<injekt>
yeah that's true
<erikh>
rails c probably disables it
<erikh>
so this could be a "pry bug"
<injekt>
anyway, if that's a method eggman2001 has defined, it must be called inside Scraper.start, no?
<erikh>
sort of like the deprecated rails globally defined call bug in dbi is a "dbi bug"
<injekt>
heh
<erikh>
good point
<erikh>
anyhow, laundropalooza is going on -- I need to bail
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<erikh>
eggman2001: best of luck!
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<eggman2001>
erikh: thanks!
<injekt>
enjoy
<injekt>
eggman2001: so, where are you calling that method?
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<eggman2001>
will do-
<eggman2001>
I'm calling it inside my Scraper class
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<injekt>
eggman2001: right, so you know where the problem is
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<eggman2001>
problem is that it's part of a loop and I'm having trouble isolating when the error occurs
<injekt>
i cant help much without seeing any code
<eggman2001>
i'm gonna mess with it a bit more a little later. need to cook dinner
<eggman2001>
thanks for the help tho
<injekt>
enjoy
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<akahn>
How do you do the thing where you write some output to stdout, and then you overwrite that very line of output, like curl does when you download a file?
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<akahn>
ah \b is backspace
<herpless>
akahn: \r?
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<akahn>
ah, even better, thanks herpless
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<akahn>
is there a method for checking whether a process I have spawned has completed?
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<erikh>
akahn: Process.kill with a signal id of 0
<erikh>
I believe it returns an integer -- which is how kill(2) works.
<erikh>
or raises Errno::ESRCH maybe?
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<erikh>
I can't remember -- either way, that's half the battle :)
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<MouseTheLuckyDog>
Is there something similar to PopFile written in Ruby?
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<oddmunds>
anyone know how long rubyforge is planning to be down?
<rohit>
h4y4shi: I don't know details, just experimented in IRB
<h4y4shi>
Thank you rohit
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<rohit>
h4y4shi: cheers
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<zenspider>
hoe 2.14.0 released
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<zenspider>
h4y4shi: there's no benefit or reason to put a method inside another method
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<WillMarshall>
What happens if I include a module I have already included?
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<dine_>
Hi, I am trying to find a way to generate random records, I tried random_record and random_records plugin, but they are returning the duplicate ones like for example I have a = [1,2,3,4,5] ==> Here I need to generate numbers with high randomness but with plugins
<dine_>
bnagy: hmm...can any kind of script is available which will generate random or more specifically the number should repeat after a long gap
<bnagy>
dine_: seriously, I don't think you understand what 'random' means
<rippa>
you can shuffle the array and take numbers sequentially
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<rippa>
then each one will appear one time
<bnagy>
rippa: except where they join :)
<bnagy>
[1,3,2,4,5] [4,5,...
<rdw200169>
can't use UUID's?
<rippa>
then don't reshuffle it
<bnagy>
rdw200169: is that a new question, or related to thhis 'ramdom' thing?
<rdw200169>
related to the random thing
<bnagy>
rippa: well then you may as well just use cycle, like you said, which is not random at all
<rippa>
yep
<bnagy>
dine_: you're seeing what your brain thinks are patterns, it's a form of cognitive bias
<bnagy>
if you had a bigger array you would be happy with the output, most likely
<dine_>
bnagy: yes, may be I am considering random numbers which will be generated in any sequence
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<bnagy>
so you have to understand, that if you flip a coin, sometimes it will come up heads 5 times in a row, or 10 times
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<bnagy>
doesn't make it a biased coin, although you would think so if it happened as soon as you started flippuing
<dine_>
bnagy: correct so after this discussion, I think I am not looking for random, but something that behaves likes random numbers but not as per the algorithm that randome function uses
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<bnagy>
ok.. so what still makes my math brain angry is that you're misusing the word 'random', in that case
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<bnagy>
if you want a totally even distribution, then do what rippa said and just cycle
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<bnagy>
but it will be obviously nonrandom
<dine_>
bnagy: Okay, I will try that
<bnagy>
you could shuffle every few cycles
<rippa>
or keep array of several last numbers
<bnagy>
but you still risk getting repeats there
<rippa>
and retry if they repeat too fast
<dine_>
gettign repeats is ok provided they are repeating after long interval
<bnagy>
what is 'long' for an array of n elements? n?
<rippa>
2n
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<hagebake>
what are you using the generated numbers for?
<rdw200169>
dine_ why not consider something like how Blackjack works, where you shuffle the array after some % has been used?
<bnagy>
:) 2n is probably not possible for more then one element, is it? :D
<rdw200169>
well, Blackjack in casinos, where they start with X number of decks, and shuffle after around 1/2 have been used, to keep the card-counters at bay (and promote quasi-randomness in the dealing)
<bnagy>
rdw200169: it's nothing to do with randomness
<bnagy>
it's just for counting, because it's a finite set
<bnagy>
to me it sounds like dine wants an enforced uniform distribution (ie NOT random)
<bnagy>
I have no idea why anyone would want that, but that's another story
<dine_>
hagebake: Generated numbers are may be going to use for mass mailing , not sure the exact requirement, today mornign my PM gave me this requirement to research on it
<rdw200169>
yeah, I'm trying to figure out what _dine is driving at as well, if there's a finite set of records (1,2,3,4,5) and the desire to have a low number of returned duplicates over time, then start with a queue of the whole array, then expend that queue in a 'random' fashion, .remove()-ing as its used, then repopulate the array after the 'allowed' period of time passed in which a duplicate is then allowed
<hagebake>
clarify? why do you need "random" for mass mailing?
<bnagy>
rdw200169: that's Array#sample :D
<bnagy>
uh sample.cycle I guess in effect
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<rdw200169>
bnagy touche, i looked again at Array#sample and you are correct, it does take into account duplicates
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<rdw200169>
bnagy, _dine, as such, I am in agreement, then, that with a (much) larger dataset, the results would be much more pleasing
<delinquentme>
can anyone here make a recommendation for Java <> Ruby packages specifically for applications in RoR?
<bnagy>
rdw200169: there are only no repeats if you do sample(n) I think
<rdw200169>
Rails works with JRuby...
<bnagy>
like [1,2,3,4,5].sample(5) is the same as shuffle, effectively
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<rippa>
a = [1,2]; b = [3,4,5].shuffle
<rippa>
random = b.first; a << b.shift; b << a.sample
<rippa>
cool?
<rippa>
guaranteed no repeats for b.length
<bnagy>
%(
<bnagy>
[1,2,3,4,5].sample 3
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<delinquentme>
rdw200169, seen it?
<rippa>
bnagy: but then element can repeat when you sample again
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<bnagy>
well you said no repeats for b.length (3) ?
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<rippa>
yes
<dine_>
Hi, I liked the idea of suffling an taking the numbers sequentially from an array, this way even if numbers are repeating they will be repeating after some interval??
<dine_>
shuffling*
<rippa>
and sample(3) can give you [1,2,3],[3,2,1]
<rippa>
repeats faster than 3
<rippa>
dine_: after longest interval possible
<bnagy>
longest interval possible is just cycle
<dine_>
rippa: yes
<bnagy>
ok I am going to find someone else who has done any stats and commit joint suicide
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<heftig>
class Array; def samples; return enum_for(__method__) unless block_given?; loop { yield sample }; end; end
<bnagy>
ok I was joking about the suicide before, but now I'm actually considering it
<evenix>
I wasn't able to figure out exactly why my test is failing but the paste bin shows whats I've done so far.
<injekt>
evenix: wow you're still doing that?
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<evenix>
injekt: ha yes i'm persistent. I read more about hashes, struct and classes and started to figure out what I was doing wrong. I was able to pass one test but the second one won't work.
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<injekt>
evenix: line 37 is bad, you dont want to use class variables in tests
<injekt>
hell, if you can avoid them (which you can), you rarely want class variables anywhere
<evenix>
ok arrant class variable used by all the instance of the class?
<apeiros_>
+1 @ no @@s
<evenix>
arren't*
<evenix>
apeiros_: ok
<evenix>
injekt: Aren't class variables used b all the instance of a class? As soon as I use @ instead of @@ i get an error message.
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<apeiros_>
the problem with class vars is that their scope is far broader than just class+instances
<apeiros_>
and no, you can't just swap out @@foo with @foo, the two work differently
<injekt>
if you alter a class variable in an inherited class, the variable is changed for the parent class and all children classes..
<injekt>
but yeah, you cant just swap them as apeiros_ says
<injekt>
you must learn how they work
<evenix>
ok true yea it make sense that can become a problem since their scope is much larger. Thanks.
<evenix>
i'll try not to use it.
<evenix>
Do you know what is wrong with my while loop? it is working fine when it test 1 word and fail when it test more than one words..this is really bothering me
<injekt>
evenix: first, remove your second failing test and put it into a separate method
<evenix>
the thing is i am supposed to do the program from the test
<injekt>
what?
<evenix>
its an assignment
<injekt>
so?
<evenix>
ok so you are saying that the test won't work if I don't make some modification to it?
<injekt>
evenix: well, your first assertion passes when you remove the second
<injekt>
that tells me something is wrong
<evenix>
true
<evenix>
ok I'm going to create a separate method for it
<evenix>
and see how it responds
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<evenix>
injekt: just did.. got the same response. When @@lexicon.scan("north south east") is called, struct Lexicon::Pair token=:direction, word="north" is returned. While it is supposed to return 3 new struct. So I am assuming that there is something wrong with my while loop.. problem is, I don't know where.
<andrewvos>
rob_: The only way to install ruby on windows is to not install ruby on windows. Yeah or what rippa said.
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<rob_>
andrewvos: :)
<rob_>
i've written an app to sync files between windows and linux so it's sort of necessary :)
<valeri_ufo>
why would you write such a script?
<valeri_ufo>
unison probably does a better job.
<rob_>
well basically what it does is make hashes of files in a directory then compares these to files in a remote location and see's if it can move the ones in the remote location about to match the local location
<rob_>
i run it before running rsync -avz -e ssh --delete <src> <dst>
<rob_>
oh
<rob_>
yes it basically does what unison does :)
<rob_>
i didnt know that existed
<valeri_ufo>
yeah, that's the problem with reinventing the wheel.
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<rob_>
the binary packages for unison are 3 years old
<rob_>
is that right?
<ruskie>
2010 or so
<rob_>
they dont make it a simple process do they
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<shevy>
hehe
<shevy>
why make things simple when you can make them COMPLICATED and sell that complexity!
<shevy>
haha the Paul Graham's quotes are the most evil of them all
<shevy>
Like the creators of sitcoms or junk food or package tours, Java's designers were consciously designing a product for people not as smart as them. -- Paul Graham
<uniqanomaly__>
tiobe = code monkeys
<uniqanomaly__>
statistics
<ddfreyne>
Java, the best argument for Smalltalk since C++. -- Frank Winkler
<ddfreyne>
sad :)
<shevy>
hmm
<shevy>
what I really don't like in smalltalk is the syntax :(
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<jondot>
hi guys. given a C library, to make bindings to ruby, should i go ffi or C extension?
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<whitequark>
jondot: ffi. definitely.
<jondot>
because this buys me into jruby and rbx?
<whitequark>
you'll waste like 10 times less time and will get free compatibility with jruby/rbx
<jondot>
so the $10M question is, what would be a relevant reason to use C extension?
<whitequark>
what's the library?
<jondot>
i havn't decided yet, i'll be doing it for educational purposes
<whitequark>
well, there are really few things I wouldn't use ffi for
<whitequark>
fiddling with MRI internals (not a very bright idea anyway)
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<whitequark>
maybe wrapping up a very perverted interface which does not map to the type system provided by ffi (unlikely)
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<whitequark>
I'd say that 99% of C extensions should have been written with ffi.
<jondot>
i see, that's reasonable.
<jondot>
well, thanks man, i'll focus on FFI
<whitequark>
even if they're not wrappers for a C library; you can just compile a .so and load it at runtime
<whitequark>
I did that recently and it's awesome how this method is fast to develop and error-proor
<whitequark>
(.so/.dylib/.dll)
<whitequark>
*error-proof
<jondot>
great, is this sometihng i can look at and learn from?
<whitequark>
that's a Qt library attached as a C ext
<whitequark>
you would never manage to get it compile with standard extconf.rb rules
<jondot>
well its ok, i'll just read around the code
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<andkerosine>
Arguments for not using parentheses unless required?
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<jondot>
andkerosine, you're looking for reasons to not use parens/
<jondot>
?
<andkerosine>
No, support for my preference.
<andkerosine>
Not including them looks and feels awkward to me.
<andkerosine>
But it seems like the "Ruby way".
<jondot>
ah.
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<jondot>
well, its a matter of getting used to. eventually i don't even think about it, sometimes i do and sometimes i don't use them. eventually it is very similar to the 'ruby' way
<jondot>
the points i make to myself is minimalism and readability
<andkerosine>
My very same stance.
<andkerosine>
I don't know that leaving them off ever /improves/ readability, though.
<jondot>
even for a single argument methods
<jondot>
obj.foo "this"
<jondot>
it really matters, for me, what is obj, what is foo and what is "this"
<jondot>
for example, if this were a mathematical notion, i'd keep the parens. myobj.compute(0.7)
<jondot>
if this were some kind of filesystem notion, I won't use parens: myobj.storage_dir "/tmp/foo/that"
<jondot>
this is definitly my own judgement of 'readable'
<jondot>
you might *have* to use parens where there is ambiguity for last hash param and a code block, ofcourse.
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<andkerosine>
Mm-hmm, I pretty much follow your logic there.
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<andkerosine>
I just hate how inconsistent it feels when considering the whole "code picture".
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<shevy>
andkerosine I use parens in method definitions like def foo(bar), when I call a method without arguments, I dont use (), with arguments I use () though... cat.jump_at(:dog)
<shevy>
I see in rails a lot of this though:
<shevy>
link_to :foo => "bla", :ble => "lala"
<andkerosine>
Mm-hmm.
<andkerosine>
I'm all for brace-less hashes.
<shevy>
so here I am not sure, because they are right in that case, leaving off the () is more readable
<andkerosine>
It just makes sense, and }) really itches me.
<shevy>
I am not sure yet what to do with that
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<shevy>
yeah
<shevy>
what I really hate is code where () is omitted in method definitions.
<andkerosine>
Mm-hmm.
<shevy>
def foo bar, bla
<andkerosine>
Just Regexed it into my codebase, not a fan.
<shevy>
well yeah it can be inconsistent
<andkerosine>
But, like, taking in URIs for example, and then converting them, you get code like this:
<andkerosine>
uri = URI uri
<shevy>
ugh what is that
<andkerosine>
And that just really bugs me for some reason.
<shevy>
yeah
<andkerosine>
Of course, uri = URI(uri) isn't much better...
<shevy>
hehe
<andkerosine>
But I think it makes the most sense.
<shevy>
well
<andkerosine>
It's a URI, so store it in a UI variable...
<shevy>
my brain is faster to understand the latter
<andkerosine>
*uri variable
<andkerosine>
You'd recommend changing the name, presumably?
<shevy>
I am not sure
<shevy>
the problem is, there are pieces of code where I solve a given problem
<shevy>
and then I may even align things into one line
<shevy>
I give you an example, a moment
<shevy>
if block_given?; cliner(colour); yield; end
<shevy>
cliner() is the name of that method
<shevy>
if a block is given, it calls itself
<shevy>
I tried to align it into 4 lines instead, without ;
<shevy>
but I decided 4 lines was not worth it. So I kinda crammed it into one line, and stopped thinking about it
<andkerosine>
Hm. I'm not too big on alignment unless it's variable assignment.
<shevy>
and I do that a lot with some code elements
<shevy>
(when it is reasonable... not when it is a long piece of code that is complicated)
<lianj>
echo BAR > foo; ruby -e 'def a(&block); File.open("foo", "r", &block); end; a{|f| p f.read }'
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<andkerosine>
Is it possible to determine from within method Y that it was called from within method X?
<rippa>
andkerosine: Kernel#caller
<andkerosine>
Thanks much.
<optikalmouse>
does ruby-git have a show function?
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<optikalmouse>
I'm guessing not, /me monkeypatches Git::Base to add it....
<erikh>
now you have two problems
<optikalmouse>
actually, one less problem
<erikh>
wait until you upgrade ruby-git
<optikalmouse>
won't be upgrading, that's the beauty of sticking to stable packages ;p
<erikh>
yep, everyone says that
<shevy>
hehe
<optikalmouse>
(and the beauty of working somewhere where I have no choice about it -_-')
<erikh>
then rails 3.1 comes out and dhh is all like trolololololol
<shevy>
4.0 at least!
<shevy>
it's the hipster child of 2.0
<optikalmouse>
yep, we're using rails 2.x here and jruby 1.3 or something
<erikh>
I have made more money cleaning up fucked up monkeypatches than probably anything else I've done in my programming career
<optikalmouse>
erikh: that might be because PHP programmers have migrated to Ruby ;)
<erikh>
yes, because php programmers are the only ones that are retarded
* erikh
sighs
<optikalmouse>
I've done some Smalltalk, COmmon Lisp, etc. and it's perfectly fine to extend classes in Smalltalk, but then, it is built better than Ruby.
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<erikh>
that's great.
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<erikh>
monkeypatching external libraries is almost always a bad idea
<erikh>
wrap the library if you need to
<erikh>
there's usually a better way of doing it.
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<rippa>
monkeypatching is like
<rippa>
"decoupling? what's that?"
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<outoftime>
in a world where library authors were conscientious about dependency injection, monkey-patching would be unjustifiable
<outoftime>
sadly, that is not a world we live in.
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<optikalmouse>
I think the problem with monkeypatching is that it's difficult to see what the diff between versions of the classes you extended are,,,but I would see that as more of a tools problem than a problem with monkeypatching?
<outoftime>
optikalmouse: assuming the library's git repo has version tags, git diff is a pretty good tool
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<shevy>
the only real problem I see with godpatching is that you can not easily undo a modification. when you extend class String, it tends to be a global change, and that can suck.
<outoftime>
in my opinion, one should only godpatch if the addition is of general relevance to the class you're extending.
<outoftime>
not, say, extending Symbol to support a DSL for your individual library. that makes my blood boil.
<shevy>
I'd love to be able to say, "In file foobar.rb, I want to extend class String with a new method called foo, but this change is specific to foobar. Do not use this for other libraries."
<outoftime>
shevy: there is actually a proposed ruby feature for that
<shevy>
yeah in 500 years ;<
<outoftime>
shevy: with a draft implementation -- but it's not performant
<outoftime>
i forget what it's called though : \
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<shevy>
outoftime I think things often get a lot more readable with some extensions
<shevy>
I carry around a lot of modifications to ruby core classes. But in projects when I release things for other people, I tend to rather avoid doing any modifications to ruby's standard behaviour when possible
<outoftime>
in my opinion, the Ruby community places a bit too much emphasis on readability.
<andkerosine>
^ Fuck this noise.
<andkerosine>
: P
<outoftime>
shevy: sure, if you're just using it yourself, it's fair game.
<shevy>
yeah the PHP guys never bother with readability hehe
<outoftime>
oh right, Q.E.D. : P
<shevy>
but they can focus on other things too that way
<shevy>
when they don't have to care about readability, they can focus on creating things
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<outoftime>
there's a balance to be struck, of course.
<optikalmouse>
anyone know how to pass a string to YAML?
<outoftime>
optikalmouse: how do you mean, "pass a string to yaml"?
<optikalmouse>
yaml.load('hello world')
<outoftime>
...looks like you're passing a string to YAML
<outoftime>
so yes! you know how to pass a string to YAML : )
<optikalmouse>
wow, I assumed load means load from file.
<optikalmouse>
you know, that would make sense.
<optikalmouse>
what happens if I pass in a filename to load? will it try to load a file or try to parse the string?
<outoftime>
optikalmouse: YAML.load_file
<optikalmouse>
oh I see, it loads from an IO stream
<shevy>
I tend to use YAML.load_file()
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<vereteran>
is there something like respond_to? but called on class for instance methods? something like String.has_instance_method?(:index) # => true
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<outoftime>
vereteran: yeah, method_defined?
<vereteran>
outoftime, thank you!
<outoftime>
vereteran: vereteran no prob
<outoftime>
hmm, said your name more times than needed there.
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<vereteran>
is there any way to tell bundler that gemfile should be actually downloaded from specified location and built?
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<Phrogz>
I wish that there existed Range#clamp, such that range.cover?( range.clamp( any_value_comparable_to_the_ends ) ) #=> true
<Phrogz>
[0.0,[1.0,val].min].max seems ghetto
<optikalmouse>
Phrogz: it can happen! monkeypatch it :P
<Phrogz>
optikalmouse: I know :)
<optikalmouse>
and then submit it as a patch to the developers ;p
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<andkerosine>
Hm... better to just tell the user to properly use the authorize method and terminate, or offer a second chance at login on the terminal?
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<andkerosine>
Phew. : )
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<optikalmouse>
so what's the diff between passing options to a method like this (:x => 1) and {:x => 1}?
<andkerosine>
None at all.
<erikh>
sure there is
<andkerosine>
Well, not if it's the only argument.
<erikh>
(:x => 1) requires a splat
<whitequark>
apart from the fact that you cannot do `object.meth { :x => 1 }'
<whitequark>
e.g. in Python you can `def method(self, a,b,c)' and then call it as `obj.method(a=1, c=3, b=2)'
<whitequark>
Ruby does not have such a builtin construct by a multitude of reasons
<whitequark>
but it does not need to
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<whitequark>
erikh: the implicit hash must be the last argument. the code you've posted won't work with splat too
<whitequark>
method definition and method calling are completely independent in Ruby
<erikh>
yep
<whitequark>
the calling code does not know anything about the code it is called. argument names, argument types, splat presence, etc.
<erikh>
that's why you don't do stupid things like that
<whitequark>
it just passes an array of arguments and a block, nothing more
<erikh>
yep. Method#arity
<whitequark>
you can introspect methods
<whitequark>
you can even get the bytecode
<whitequark>
still, this info isn't used in the actual calling protocol
<whitequark>
that's why things like DRb work
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<whitequark>
(well, you could get drb to work even with mandatory introspection, but that would be much less efficient)
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<optikalmouse>
how the hell do I create a yaml stream? I don't want to serialize ruby objects as YAML, I just want to create a tree, just like you do with XML -_-'
<whitequark>
(replace Psych class name by YAML in your actual code.)
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<darix>
since when is an xml tree a stream?
<andkerosine>
Tomorrow.
<optikalmouse>
Today.
<optikalmouse>
darix: when it's being written or read?
<andkerosine>
"Stream" doesn't have so loose a definition.
<optikalmouse>
why not? :D
<whitequark>
darix: XMPP
<darix>
whitequark: yeah but isnt it more a stream of xml trees?
<darix>
hm
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<shevy>
hmm and again I wonder how to arrange my various .rb files in a project
<shevy>
right now I am putting them all into a lib/ subdirectory
<deryldoucette>
prefix them with ###- :) yeah thats the ticket
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<deryldoucette>
or better yet, prefix with . and confuse thyself (muahaha)
<necromancer>
is it possible to mark messages as read using the Mail gem?
<outoftime>
necromancer: isn't Mail just for sending mail?
<necromancer>
outoftime: nope. it can read from a POP mailbox too
<outoftime>
necromancer: oh
<necromancer>
there's a Mail::Message.mark_for_delete boolean I can set but it doesn't seem to be working
<necromancer>
i don't see a mark_as_read in the docs...
<whitequark>
darix: nope
<whitequark>
the root element isn't closed in the middle of stream
<whitequark>
so, it can only be parsed with SAX, not DOM
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<manveru>
necromancer: read the source luke
<apeiros>
shevy: generally map constants to paths
<apeiros>
i.e. Foo::Bar --> lib/foo/bar.rb
<apeiros>
Foo::BarBaz --> lib/foo/barbaz.rb
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<shevy>
hmm
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<manveru>
necromancer: are you use POP knows "read" status?
<manveru>
*sure
<manveru>
i think only IMAP can do that
<manveru>
pop can delete the message on the server after retrieval, but that's about it
<deryldoucette>
UUIDL
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<manveru>
?
<deryldoucette>
manveru: UUIDL is wht POP uses for knowing if its seen or downloaded that email before
<manveru>
the RFC only knows UIDL
<darix>
deryldoucette: doesnt that require maintaining a local list?
<manveru>
yeah, i thought that too
<deryldoucette>
darix: the MUA usually does
<darix>
deryldoucette: with imap the flag \\seen is stored server side to indicate the message is read.
<deryldoucette>
so you'll probably have to build that in
<darix>
deryldoucette: does the mail gem cache that?
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<deryldoucette>
that i do not know
<darix>
anyway imap >>> pop anyway.
<manveru>
i doubt that very much
<manveru>
hehe
<manveru>
i know some people who only use POP3 to make sure nothing stays on the server
<deryldoucette>
manveru: and you are correct it IS UIDL. Not sure why my fingers keep popping it out as UUIDL
<deryldoucette>
well thats because they're not using the exgended capability then
<deryldoucette>
the *default* for pop clients is to download and delete off the server. you have to specify to leave them on there. so its basically just them not setting the extended capabilities
<manveru>
?
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<manveru>
i just meant that's one reason to prefer pop over imap
<deryldoucette>
you said they used POP3 specifically because it leaves nothing on the server. thats only if you use a default configuration in your MUA, ect. pop3 defaults to deleting once you've captured the emails from the server
<deryldoucette>
ah
<deryldoucette>
nm, :)
<manveru>
some people don't trust the cloud further than their wifi reaches
<deryldoucette>
hehe
<darix>
manveru: you trust wifi?
<manveru>
lol
<manveru>
no, i was eth only until this year
<whitequark>
one can trust WPA2
<manveru>
but the 3g router i use right now doesn't have an ethernet port
<deryldoucette>
i don't trust anything once it leaves my system. and with my own wifi i do insane shit like changing the keys to the strongest supported by the router, rotating them every 5-15 minutes depending, stuff like that
<deryldoucette>
wpa2 can be broken
<whitequark>
deryldoucette: with bruteforce, yes
<deryldoucette>
depends on how you are implementing. are you using radius? WPA2-PSK what?
<whitequark>
any cipher can be broken with bruteforce.
<deryldoucette>
whats your point? no it can't be broken as easily as WEP, but you can still crack (kismet comes with a lib for helping with that iirc) wpa2
<deryldoucette>
how *easily* still comes down to how you've implemented it
<manveru>
well, that's why we use encryption beyond WPA2, right?
<whitequark>
deryldoucette: there are no known public exploits for WPA2 which allow you to crack it in less than bruteforce time
<whitequark>
it's exactly same with TLS, for example (with all the known updates, of course)
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<darix>
whitequark: well the ssl key survey was kinda fun ... the number of duplicated keys is amazing :)
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<deryldoucette>
and since bruteforce time depending on the dictionaries used is under 1 minute in most cases :) (faster for WEP) challenges done all over the interwebs
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<whitequark>
deryldoucette: _if_ your key is dictionary
<whitequark>
the passphrase I currently use isn't something you could easily find with a dictionary, too
<workmad3>
what's the conversation? :)
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<deryldoucette>
true, but you're making it sound more secure than it actually is. what about WPA2-PSK with TKIP and throwing a dictionary at it. which is a very common setup (especially for the highest backwards compatilbility) from ISPs and their clients.
<whitequark>
pfft, default setups are more often stupid than not
<deryldoucette>
i can't argue against that
<whitequark>
that does not affect WPA2's security level by itself
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<workmad3>
is this just an argument about WPA2 security?
<deryldoucette>
not really an argument. more a discussion with the occasional dig ;)
<workmad3>
what's under discussion then? :)
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<deryldoucette>
ehh we just went on a tangent about wpa, wep, wpa2 ect.
<deryldoucette>
was good while it lasted
<workmad3>
heh :) and you are being careful to distinguish between brute-forcing the wpa2 network password and cracking the session keys used for the encryption, right?
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<deryldoucette>
yeah
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* whitequark
plans to transition to WPA2-EAP
<whitequark>
just for the sake of it
<whitequark>
my home network doesn't _really_ require certificates.
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<deryldoucette>
whitequark: hehe i make my wifi do stuff it doesn't really require (unless I have a government goon squad sitting outside and I don't know it)
<workmad3>
get a router that lets you turn the power of your signal down and get some repeaters if necessary, then adjust the power level so your network doesn't propagate past your external walls
<deryldoucette>
but its definitely more secure than your average network
<hagabaka>
anyone know how to read a 16 bit integer from a Qt::DataStream with qtruby?
<whitequark>
workmad3: for what?
<workmad3>
whitequark: for your home wifi :P
<whitequark>
if I'd really want to snoop on someone, I'd get a good directional antenna
<whitequark>
with like 18dB of amplification
<whitequark>
your scheme will only work with a stupid hacker who has nothing but a wifi dongle with a standard omni antenna
<workmad3>
whitequark: if someone really wanted to snoop, it's pretty hard to stop them
<workmad3>
whitequark: but you may as well stop the idiot hackers who are just cruising for an open connection
<whitequark>
workmad3: WPA2-PSK would easily stop them
<whitequark>
if your passphrase is not dictionary
<whitequark>
and mine isn't
<workmad3>
:)
<whitequark>
actually, it pretty much the same with snoopers. of course, if your wifi's firmware does not have a backdoor
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<workmad3>
whitequark: if they have professional equipment, they could just record the traffic with snooping and crack the session encryption offline later
<whitequark>
workmad3: no need in professional equipment
<whitequark>
I could do that as well with any Atheros or Ralink card
<whitequark>
and a $linuxmachine
<workmad3>
whitequark: heh :) you know more about this than I do
<deryldoucette>
you can use kismet, that aircrack-ng or whatever the hell the name of it is
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<deryldoucette>
can snoop using most any wifi card
<whitequark>
well, not "most"
<whitequark>
definitely not broadcom
<whitequark>
but that's really a no-brainer
<deryldoucette>
hehe
<whitequark>
you'll have no luck cracking the session key
<whitequark>
what is it, a 512-bit padded AES?
<whitequark>
I don't quite remember, but that's going to be painful
<whitequark>
if you'll capture a 4-way handshake for PSK, you can either run a dictionary loop or do bruteforce
<deryldoucette>
i'd have to look it up but that sounds about right
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<whitequark>
the former would only work if the user is stupid
<whitequark>
the latter is painful if the user isn't
<deryldoucette>
we're talking the world at large. most will fall into the first :)
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<deryldoucette>
ok, sent my dog to the trainer's so i could work, and what am i doing? not working
<deryldoucette>
whitequark: i blame you ;)
<whitequark>
deryldoucette: 99% of internet-enabled (or should I say "disabled"?) users post their personal data on Facebook
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<whitequark>
what else do you want?
<deryldoucette>
hahahaha touche!
<deryldoucette>
probably over half don't even know how TO go and change their default to tighten up a bit on FB what they display
<whitequark>
even if they would know that, FB will release that to the public after half a year anyway. if you've signed their ToC, you're basically pwned
<deryldoucette>
alas we live in an instant gratification world, and if they're gratified thats all they want. but remember its someone ELSE's fault if they get popped, ID stolen, some creature of the night knows their mommy's name.
<deryldoucette>
think its 18 months but yea
<whitequark>
doesn't matter
<deryldoucette>
thats why they have such a huge damned IPO worth. they're sitting on a damned advertiser's gold mine
<deryldoucette>
with monthly rollovers to boot!
<whitequark>
advertisers _already_ have all the data they want
<whitequark>
but no
<whitequark>
these people will release the whole friend graph without asking anyone
<deryldoucette>
yeah no shit :/
<whitequark>
... and then curious MIT people go and make a gaydar
<whitequark>
if you live in this world at this moment, you're screwed
<deryldoucette>
ok i truly am enjoying the conversation, but i'm screwing myself here by staying and chatting. i gotta get this article done.. and then roll onto the last one. (i love writing! why is this so damned hard for me? sheesh!)
<whitequark>
can I take a look at your articles?
<deryldoucette>
sure, they're not top of the line
<deryldoucette>
see msg
<whitequark>
thanks
<deryldoucette>
np
<deryldoucette>
the one i'm on now starts the longer ones because i have to cover the listener class we implement
<deryldoucette>
using octopress for that. expect lots of small and fast rapid-fire changes to existing articles, and for new ones. constantly doing little corrections
<whitequark>
sure
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<deryldoucette>
it will look better once i find out why the hell its ignoring the custom changes but no real time for that right now. doesn't look tremendously horrid at the moment so..
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<bjensen>
any of you guys who use ruby 1.9.3p0 in production ?
<outoftime>
bjensen: heh, no
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<bjensen>
outoftime: heh?
<whitequark>
bjensen: me
<bjensen>
whitequark: any quarks?
<whitequark>
have you found a segfault somewhere in GC, too?
<whitequark>
hm
<whitequark>
there's no such thing as a white quark, obviously
<outoftime>
bjensen: maybe the "heh" was unjustified -- but just trying to get my app to start locally on 1.9.3 was a pretty fast fail
<bjensen>
Oh I found some that are even present when using ruby 1.9.2
<whitequark>
yes, there are some
<bjensen>
outoftime: Mine is working out of the box (Rails 3.1.3)
<outoftime>
bjensen: i think the main issue was native extensions in our dependencies
<whitequark>
doubtful
<bjensen>
outoftime: I had one with iconv, but rvm and stack overflow was to the rescue
<whitequark>
outoftime: 1.9.3 still has 1.9.1 AI
<whitequark>
*ABI version
<outoftime>
it was ruby-debug19 actually that wouldn't build
<outoftime>
so not an issue for production
<outoftime>
so no "heh"
<shevy>
what is the opposite of INDENT
<bitrot>
OUTDENT
<whitequark>
shevy: if we're talking about verbs (to indent), then it's "to unindent"
<shevy>
I mean for programming languages and tokens on a stack
<erikh>
It's called <<
<shevy>
I wonder if you guys know what the python hipsters came up with for that here
<erikh>
inverted dent
<shevy>
hehehe
<workmad3>
shevy: I'm not sure there is an opposite of 'indent'... I'd guess you'd track an indentation level and increment/decrement it personally
<shevy>
"The indentation levels of consecutive lines are used to generate INDENT and DEDENT tokens, using a stack, as follows."
<erikh>
DEDENT
<erikh>
awesome
<workmad3>
oh, bleh, python :P
<erikh>
gg guido
<shevy>
I am talking with Araq on #nimrod though, and he is calling it "[dedentation]" hehehe it's kinda funny what new words are emerging
<yorickpeterse>
at least Python has a set of official standards
<yorickpeterse>
What I meant is why they're not using __FILE__ instead of the .called_from shit
<apeiros>
at least that's my educated guess
<apeiros>
because __FILE__ won't help there.
<yorickpeterse>
Because you should be loading things relative to the file, not relative to wherever the fuck you're calling it from
<yorickpeterse>
Especially not if you're using relative paths as that might lead to non existing files being loaded
<apeiros>
yorickpeterse: you have PROJECT/app/models/invitable/invitation.rb with that code in it - and the one of the engine is now relative to it where? it's an engine, meaning it's a gem…
<yorickpeterse>
Assuming called_from would point to ~/ then ../../ would go to /, however if I now call this code from ~/foobar it breaks
<yorickpeterse>
Hmm
<yorickpeterse>
Unless called_from produces the path from a file and now $PWD
<yorickpeterse>
* nit
<yorickpeterse>
FFFFFF
<yorickpeterse>
* not
<apeiros>
"we access it with Invitable::Engine.called_from. This will point to the lib/invitable directory in the gem itself"
<apeiros>
right there
<yorickpeterse>
ah
<apeiros>
so I'd say my guess was spot on
<yorickpeterse>
I didn't really read the text, I just raged at the code
* apeiros
stops wasting his time at that point
<yorickpeterse>
:)
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<drojas>
Hi.. anyone with experience in RGL
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<rue>
Nope, what's that?
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<drojas>
Ruby Graph Library
<drojas>
I need to implement a weighted graph using the Ruby Graph Library RGL and I'm having some problems..
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<Swimming_Bird>
is there a favorite gem for uploading stuff to s3 now adays?
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<Swimming_Bird>
aws-s3's never felt that nice to me