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<bjensen82>
Hi. I have tree classes. class subclass A < MyCoolSuperClass; FOO = [1,2,3];end; class SubclassB < MyCoolSuperClass; FOO = ["john", "doe"]; end; class MyCoolSuperClass; def what_is_foo; puts FOO; end; the problem is when I do c = SubclassA.new; c.what_is_foo then I get an error since FOO does not exist in the super class. Any way I can get around this? I dont want to implement more than one what_is_foo() method..
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<tape1>
def what_is_foo; self.class.FOO; end
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<tape1>
correction: self.class::FOO (colons instead of dot)
<bjensen82>
correction its actually self::FOO
<bjensen82>
If I did self.class.FOO I get the error: NameError: uninitialized constant Class::FOO
<bjensen82>
thanks tape1 :)
<bjensen82>
sorry the error was NoMethodError: undefined method `FOO' for Class:Class
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<tape1>
yeah, use self.class::FOO (the colons trip me up way too often)
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<bjensen82>
tape1: the working version was: def what_is_foo; puts self::FOO; end;
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<pipecloud>
This damn channel stops me from reclaiming pipecloud and nicking to it in case of any problems. :(
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<r0bgleeson>
pipecloud: you can configure your IRC client to always identify you under any nickname, /msg nickserv identify pipecloud XXX.
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<r0bgleeson>
that way when you rejoin under pipecloud__, etc, it won't be a problem
<pipecloud>
It's already configured. :)
<r0bgleeson>
not sure what the issue is then
<pipecloud>
I have other channels that, admittedly incorrectly, depend on nicks for bot access and other things
<pipecloud>
I'm not going to group every possible alternative nick. ruby-lang shouldn't prevent me from changing my nick.
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<r0bgleeson>
it doesn't.
<pipecloud>
It does.
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<teapot412>
does not
<teapot412>
you need to be identified
<teapot412>
thats all
<pipecloud>
It might be preventing users who aren't authed from nicking
<teapot412>
yup
<pipecloud>
I'm not going to group every alternative nick
<pipecloud>
I'll see if I can get this crappy client to send my nickserv password as the server password first
<pipecloud>
I use irccloud, it's the only erlang service I use with more downtime than windows boxen
<teapot412>
didnt know that was written in erlang
<pipecloud>
I use mutual auth over SSL on not-crappy clients
<teapot412>
aw
<teapot412>
i'm precondition failed
<teapot412>
not a teapot
<teapot412>
teapot is 418
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<pipecloud>
I still don't know why ruby-lang would want to prevent me from nicking to my appropriate nick. Preventing unauthed users from nicking doesn't really provide any benefit if they're abusing
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<r0bgleeson>
spam bots
<pipecloud>
No
<r0bgleeson>
they're usually unindentified too
<pipecloud>
Write better ban masks
<r0bgleeson>
*shrug*
<pipecloud>
Nicks aren't any help in that situation.
<r0bgleeson>
its never a problem for me
<r0bgleeson>
as i said you can identify as any nick.
<pipecloud>
That's nice
<r0bgleeson>
blame a bad IRC client more than anything else ;)
<pipecloud>
It's that and the fact that this channel does useless junk. I'll just have to create more part/join spam.
<r0bgleeson>
i don't see how its useless. it's inconvient for you, that's all
<pipecloud>
It's useless and inconvenient
<r0bgleeson>
it's not useless when someone sends to send a botnet of spam bots for a joke
<pipecloud>
Yes it is.
<r0bgleeson>
okay
<r0bgleeson>
i don't care enough to discuss this!
<pipecloud>
Most spam bots don't nick, they leave and join again from another IP with another nick
<pipecloud>
I hang out with the freenode staff and the owner.
<r0bgleeson>
uhh okay
<r0bgleeson>
that's a very strange validation of your words
<r0bgleeson>
can they not stand on their own?
<r0bgleeson>
but anyway, i honestly dont care that much
<pipecloud>
I have exposure to the real world rather than imaginary spam bots that nick. I don't know where you're getting those from, but it's just not what happens in the real world.
<r0bgleeson>
i dont live in the real world
<r0bgleeson>
its boring
<r0bgleeson>
thats my problem then
<r0bgleeson>
next topic!
<pipecloud>
Stupid useless channel modes.
<ohsix>
it's really interesting to say the least that one bot 'mostly' returns with a different ip and nick :p
<ohsix>
'the real word' is an argument from authority, and fallacious
<pipecloud>
It's actually based on first hand experience and data from one of the companies in the network security space I worked for.
<ohsix>
does there really have to be some grand theme for your annoyance at one of the channel modes? doesn't it suffice to say that you find it annoying?
<pipecloud>
IRC is a hugely popular C&C mechanism.
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<r0bgleeson>
has anyone used FakeFS here?
<r0bgleeson>
i'm having a little trouble trying to create a 'FakeFS::FakeFile'.
<pipecloud>
Sometimes it's actually used to spam IRC networks, both public ones like these and private ones that usually just host another entity's C&C.
<ohsix>
assume everyone knows what you're trying to tell them, and don't
<pipecloud>
ohsix: Screw off. :)
<ohsix>
that you know what a 'mode' is is AMAZING and we're all rather entertained you do
<pipecloud>
r0bgleeson: Have you either pinged alindeman or created a gist?
<pipecloud>
I don't know where you get off with this condescending attitude towards me.
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<pipecloud>
r0bgleeson: I've used it shortly, but wouldn't be able to help without seeing how you're trying to use it.
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<ohsix>
the cognitive dissonance involved in calling other people condescending :]
<r0bgleeson>
pipecloud: i don't really see what I'm doing wrong. I enable the FakeFS, add directory nodes, then add the file to the last node, but it's never seen
<r0bgleeson>
probably a typo or something somewhere
<pipecloud>
ohsix: Do you have anything remotely valuable to say? It doesn't seem like it. You appear to be making meta-arguments
<r0bgleeson>
it's undocumented with no examples
<pipecloud>
r0bgleeson: Huh, seems curious.
<pipecloud>
ohsix: reddit called, it wants its primary form of discourse back.
<r0bgleeson>
yeah, once it works i will be amazed and happy
<whitequark>
so much hate, yorickpeterse would be impressed
<r0bgleeson>
ain't no h8
<ohsix>
pipecloud: but ... my friends!
<pipecloud>
ohsix: I don't know what friends are. :(
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<r0bgleeson>
few do, few do.
<pipecloud>
r0bgleeson: If you could gist, I could take a look.
<ohsix>
wouldn't that be inconvenient
<ohsix>
on the order of +n
<r0bgleeson>
I can gist the test case but it's not something you can run without the rest of the project
<pipecloud>
r0bgleeson: I'd just need to see the use of fakefs.
<r0bgleeson>
okay one second
<ohsix>
registering contempt for channel modes that defy my ability to use colors
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<pipecloud>
ohsix: Don't get me started on all the bullshit, one is enough
<yorickpeterse>
whitequark: que?
<r0bgleeson>
https://gist.github.com/robgleeson/8267586 - i see a possible problem in this example in that I add the file to the first directory node(/Users) but i tried adding to the right one and it didnt seem to make a diff
<r0bgleeson>
ill try again
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<whitequark>
yorickpeterse: pipecloud's hating so much
<yorickpeterse>
oh shit, he hangs out with Freenode
<yorickpeterse>
such a playa
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<ohsix>
yea i was pretty scared for a minute there
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<ohsix>
of official action or something
<r0bgleeson>
yup i dont totally get it
<r0bgleeson>
[2] pry(#<BindingReplRCFileTest>)> dir
<yorickpeterse>
r0bgleeson: last time I tried FakeFS I hated it
<yorickpeterse>
the API is weird and the docs were shit
<r0bgleeson>
it sounds so cool, if it worked
<r0bgleeson>
FakeFile, FakeDir
<r0bgleeson>
there are no docs :D
<r0bgleeson>
0
<yorickpeterse>
pipecloud: also FYI if you're going to be a total internet badass because "you hang out with Freenode" and w/e, feel free to do so in another channel
<yorickpeterse>
r0bgleeson: yeah
<yorickpeterse>
pipecloud: if you have problems with the channel modes, send a PM to zenspider or apeiros (when he's online), they (and some others) are ops here
<pipecloud>
When people are saying that my complaint has no value, I tell them why it does.
<pipecloud>
Take it for whatever you want, I don't really care how people who don't have the power to change it feel about it.
<ohsix>
you had arguments from authority and proved, as yorickpeterse just said, that you are an 'internet badass', you're putting too much weight on your suggestion
<ohsix>
then undermining your normal ability to air any general grievance
<whitequark>
pipecloud: funniest thing is, the people who do have the power to change it (today I think it's just zenspider) keep it on because the bot threat is apparently real
<whitequark>
I've asked him not long ago *shrug*
<whitequark>
and the namedropping is just silly
<ohsix>
can we at least agree that colors are annoying regardless of any possible bot threat :]
<ohsix>
if we can't, can i has color
<whitequark>
hmm.
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<yorickpeterse>
ohsix: no, I want to use my rainbow plugin damn it
<r0bgleeson>
!figletraindow yolo
<r0bgleeson>
rainbow*
<yorickpeterse>
don't give me any ideas
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<pipecloud>
whitequark: And I'm saying that my experience is that preventing nick changes are pointles.
<pipecloud>
Sorry for having experience and being willing to state its sources. :)
<ohsix>
in my experience preventing nick changes are not pointless
<ohsix>
how do we sort this out
<r0bgleeson>
by not talking about it
<pipecloud>
Me not giving a fuck about your experiences in kind.
<ohsix>
tu coque
<yorickpeterse>
pipecloud: the intention is not to prevent nick changes
<ohsix>
would have been cooler if i spelled that right
<yorickpeterse>
its to prevent unidentified users from being able to use this channel in the first place
<pipecloud>
I'm still not sure if I like mocking things I don't own.
<r0bgleeson>
it's better then worrying about state on the filesystem
<pipecloud>
It might be. I'll suspend judgement.
<r0bgleeson>
that can become messy. in theory I could have my own $HOME/.binding.repl.rc file that defines its own order, so my test suite would be responsible for rewriting it that and then putting it back
<r0bgleeson>
-that
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<pipecloud>
I can see it being annoying. I'm just not sure yet if that's the way I would want to alleviate that pain.
<ohsix>
irony in the real sense D:
<pipecloud>
You have some unhealthy obsession about me, it's exciting.
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<ohsix>
don't you like the attention? you seem to readily pick out what people mean when they're referring to you offhand
<pipecloud>
lul, what a troll.
<r0bgleeson>
FakeFS could definitely use some API improvements
<r0bgleeson>
you cant say dir << file.
<r0bgleeson>
even if 'file' is FakeFS::FakeFile.
<r0bgleeson>
bit clumsy to work with
<ohsix>
in my haughty experience people are quickly to deflect by labelling someone else a troll
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<yorickpeterse>
kids can you take it somewhere private and make out already?
<pipecloud>
He left me all alone with you people.
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<yorickpeterse>
what do you mean, "you people" huh?
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<ridders>
Hi is anyone familiar with Shoesrb?
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<apeiros>
ok, so reading a bit of chat history, I see it does that check to avoid pushing with a prerelease rubygems, but I don't have that. I have rubygems 2.2.0 proper.
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<apeiros>
ok, while not visible from even `gem -V`, it seems to be an ssl cert issue. I had run `rvm osx-ssl-certs update all` so I expected my certs to be up to date :-/
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<ivanskie>
hey guys
<ivanskie>
any of you like minecraft?
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<toretore>
ivanskie: who doesn't?
<ivanskie>
i found a ruby minecraft server wrapper gem..
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<ivanskie>
last commit was 2 years ago.. so im digging in the code to see if i can make it work
<ivanskie>
i cant even run the test.. for some reason ruby says it can't find file require helper.. even tho its in the same directory