apeiros changed the topic of #ruby to: Ruby 2.0.0-p195: http://ruby-lang.org (Ruby 1.9.3-p429) || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com
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<mhahn> is there no way to get STDIN without user pressing enter?
<mhahn> on 1.8.7?
<apeiros> curses, ncurses
<apeiros> or get a ruby version which isn't over half a decade old
<apeiros> steven: not following what you mean
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<steven> apeiros: don't worry about it, I got everything the way I needed - thank you!
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<apeiros> ok, yw :)
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<Apane> Are Ruby devs solely based in Ruby development? Or do they dabble in Rails as well? Trying to gather a consensus
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<Xeago> is responder a word?
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<Xeago> as in the response is done by the responder
<apeiros> dictionary says yes
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<Xeago> alright, fair enough
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<sam113101> what's the other way of doing module Test; class << self; define everything; end; end?
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<Spooner> sam113101, You can also do module Test def self.whatever; end; def self.other;end; end
<sam113101> Spooner: I know, but there was something else
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<sam113101> something that tells that every method is going to be "static"
<Spooner> Well, it is more that you are defining the methods on the class's metaclass.
<sam113101> yeah
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<digitalcake> just getting my head in to BDD and I wanted a quick require of my first feature. I feel like I'm missing some thing with my given step https://gist.github.com/digitalcake/5733311
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<digitalcake> review = require
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<digitalcake> not sure how I ended up typing that.
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<digitalcake> I feel like my given is not writen correctly cause the step feel like it wouldn't set the stage to anything.
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<jude0> So i did a "gem install therubyracer" on linux, and it seemed to install. When i run in irb "require 'v8' " i get "LoadError: no such file to load -- ref" any pointers?
<Spooner> sam113101, Well, you can also do (class << self; self; end).send(:define_method, :bleh) {} or (class << self; self; end).class_eval { def bleh; end }
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<sam113101> it was a function inside the module definition
<sam113101> module Test; module_with_only_class_methods; end
<sam113101> something like that
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<sam113101> I can't remember ;_;
<Spooner> You mean #module_function?
<sam113101> let me try
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<Spooner> sam113101, module E; def bleh; p "hello"; end; module_function :bleh; end; E.bleh
<sam113101> oh yes thanks
<Spooner> That isn't quite the same, since it also makes the method available (private) to any class that includes the module.
<sam113101> oh
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<Spooner> "module_function makes the module's instance methods private, then duplicates and puts them into the module's metaclass"
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<lloan> Hello
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<dcope> what's the secret to getting :expires_in to work with cached fragments?
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<Fire-Dragon-DoL> can someone help me with this reflection code? I don't understand why remove_method throws an error: https://gist.github.com/Fire-Dragon-DoL/5733818
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<bnagy> cause the method isn't defined in A
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<bnagy> Fire-Dragon-DoL: try it with undef_method and see the diff
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<jude0> can anyone help me figure out how to install a gem and load it here is my attempt so far http://pastebin.com/8KXBcQmW
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<havenwood> jude0: What are you using to manage your Ruby version? RVM, chruby, rbenv, setting it yourself?
<jude0> default?
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<havenwood> jude0: Is GEM_HOME env var set?: echo $GEM_HOME
<Tecan> anyone here feel like converting small ruby script to python or c for me ?
<jude0> its not set
<havenwood> jude0: I like using chruby to set the env vars correctly for me: https://github.com/postmodern/chruby#readme
<havenwood> jude0: Or if you could look at how it sets them, and do it yourself.
<bnagy> you might just be able to gem install ( NOT sudo gem install )
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<bnagy> it's something something path something, anyway
<jude0> i got permission errors without sudo
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<havenwood> jude0: which gem
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<jude0> therubyracer
<havenwood> jude0: Are you using a package manager version or did you install youself?
<jude0> ...i used gem install, as far as version i haven't changed it
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<Fire-Dragon-DoL> bnagy: I need to call that method later
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> bnagy: that's why I'm not using undef_method
<bnagy> Fire-Dragon-DoL: yeah I'm just pointing out why it doesn't work
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> bnagy: I don't get it, undef_method works
<bnagy> remove method removes methods that are defined in the class
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> so self.remove_method
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> should do the trick
<bnagy> undef_method makes any call to that method fail
<bnagy> Fire-Dragon-DoL: no - it's not defined in A
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<bnagy> it's defined in the module and in the parent
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> bnagy: if I undef_method and then I define that method
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> will the instance respond to it?
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<Boohbah> any archlinux users?
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<bnagy> Fire-Dragon-DoL: should do
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> ah
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> bnagy: I thought it would block
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> ANY
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<Fire-Dragon-DoL> method trying to respond to that
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> that's ok so
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<Fire-Dragon-DoL> I'll use undef_method
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> thanks a lot
<bnagy> Fire-Dragon-DoL: but why?
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<bnagy> if you _don't_ undef it you'll still get the method you define in A
<bnagy> methods defined in a class will be called before included method of the same name
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<Fire-Dragon-DoL> bnagy: yes and the problem is that
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<Fire-Dragon-DoL> bnagy: I have to run the included method before the class one
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<bnagy> that's not what your example shows
<bnagy> if you _had_ defined the method in A then remove_method would work
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<bnagy> Fire-Dragon-DoL: http://pastie.org/8021751
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<bnagy> Boohbah: arch is the one that just got rid of /usr/bin/bash right?
<bnagy> hahah hahahaha hahahahahahah
<bnagy> tools
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<Boohbah> what
<Boohbah> in arch, /bin is a symlink to /usr/bin
<Boohbah> problem?
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<Boohbah> bnagy: what do you use?
<bnagy> sry /bin/bash
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<bnagy> unix
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> bnagy: looks you are right, I'm trying to emulate code of other classes but I did it wrong
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<Boohbah> bnagy: i doubt it
<wald0> this can be a stupid question but, by learning ruby i can be able to write things in "ruby on rails" or it requires really to learn more another thing ?
<Boohbah> many who use rails don't know ruby...
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<wald0> the thing is that i want to learn ruby, and be also able to make a plugin for redmine (made on ruby-on-rails if im not wrong)
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<jude0> so i set $GEM_HOME to /var/lib/gems/1.8/ still having trouble figuring out how to get irb to load gems
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<bnagy> jude0: your life will be much easier if you install a recent ruby as your normal user
<bnagy> check out chruby and ruby-install or rbenv or whatever
<jude0> which version? i did install rbenv but wasn't able to figure it out
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<bnagy> latest stable MRI 1.9.3 is the most conservative choice
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<jude0> $ rbenv version
<jude0> system (set by /home/user/.rbenv/version)
<jude0> #is that right?
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<jude0> $ rbenv versions #return nothing
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<Fire-Dragon-DoL> wald0: you have to learn both, first learn ruby than ruby on rails
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> wald0: you may not have a DEEP ruby knowledge but you need to know it
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<bnagy> jude0: you need to install another ruby and then select it with rbenv
<bnagy> there are instructions on the site. You can use ruby-build or compile by hand, whichever
<bnagy> or ruby-install
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<jude0> i was missing a : in my export path :-( derp
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<jude0> thanks for the help bnagy, i figured it out with ruby-switch
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<bnagy> I had never heard of that
<bnagy> it looks like a terrible idea, but whatever
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<bnagy> like... they have update-alternatives already why on earth would they make a package just to switch system rubies?
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<lucianosousa> bnagy: like rvm or rbenv?
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<bnagy> lucianosousa: I don't know what you mean
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<Boohbah> how can i easily rescue all errors raised by a particular module?
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<bnagy> not quite sure what you want there...
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<bnagy> like you want to rescue RuntimeError if it comes from the module but not from some other random code?
<Boohbah> if i don't specify an error in the rescue clause, will i rescue all errors raised in the begin block?
<bnagy> almost all of them
<bnagy> all the ones you can deal with, anyway
<Boohbah> ahh, that's what i want to do then, thanks
<bnagy> cool
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<Dha> Guys, what is the issue with this code
<Dha> #!/usr/bin/ruby class Rubyist attr_accessor :hello def say_hello(*names) names.each do |name| self.send(:hello, name) end end end all_names = ["dhaval", "joshi"] ruby = Rubyist.new ruby.say_hello(all_names) put ruby.inspect
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<r0bgleeson> dha: self.send :hello=, name
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<Dha> AH, that worked.. yum i am assigning values. . Thanks ..
<r0bgleeson> youre welcome
<r0bgleeson> peace & <3
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<Dha> I tried to understand this self .. but i am still confuse .... what self is used for is . .when i call method in same class i have to give self.method ?
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<r0bgleeson> dha: 'self' to an instance of whatever object the scope is in. you don't need to use self all the time, it is implicit, but there are cases when you have to
<Dha> any example ?
<Dha> like when i should use that
<Dha> i know when i define class method i use that ..
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<bnagy> #!/usr/bin/ruby is a bad idea
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<nightfly> why?
<bnagy> cause ruby might not be there?
<nightfly> #!/usr/bin/env ruby
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<bnagy> yep
<bnagy> dha: that was for you, btw
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<Dha> yeah, underdsood ...
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<felipec> in C, is there a shortcut for rb_eval_string("Shellwords") ?
<felipec> (a module)
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<nightfly> you could write a function that does that
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<Boohbah> does Enumerable#map iterate in a deterministic order?
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<apeiros> it iterates in the order .each iterates
<Boohbah> okay, so it goes in order
<apeiros> depends on the class
<apeiros> 1.8 Hash#each has no defined order
<apeiros> f.ex.
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<Boohbah> 2.0/Array#each
<Boohbah> should go in array index order, yes?
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<apeiros> yes
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<lloan> Hello
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<lloan> I suppose everyone is afk? o_0
<apeiros> correct
<apeiros> you want 700 people to say "hi" every time somebody joins?
<lloan> At least 1 of the 700 ^-^
<lloan> I guess you count ^-^
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<lloan> It's just pretty akward as I don't see anyone saying anything either
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<spoonman> whats the right way to install gems in a folder in my home directory?
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<ellipse> Have you seen RVM?
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<spoonman> ellipse: im not using it
<ellipse> RVM or Bundler are the easiest ways by far.
<MrZYX> there's a --user-install option to the gem install command
<spoonman> ellipse: i want to learn how the things work before using these tools
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<spoonman> MrZYX: in fact i installed using a .gemrc file but its not finding the binaries
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<spoonman> MrZYX: i installed rspec in ~/.gems but its not finding the rspec binary file
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<MrZYX> surely that path isn't in your $PATH
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<spoonman> MrZYX: yeah, but what do i have to add to the PATH for all the gems to work?
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<spoonman> MrZYX: another thing is: gem uninstall rspec says that rspec is not installed but gem list says its installed
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<MrZYX> add $HOME/.gems/abi_version_of_your_ruby/bin to your path
<MrZYX> and uninstall takes that same user install option
<spoonman> MrZYX: it installed in $/HOME/.gems/gems/rspec-*
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<spoonman> i cant understand these tools they are too complicated i search google and everyone seems to have a different problem
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<bnagy> spoonman: use chruby then
<bnagy> it's just a path switcher, basically
<cougarten> hi, I used rubyinstaller on windows7 x64 and have troubles building the mysql2 for ruby-2.0.0-p195 (i think i did the same thing for ruby-2.0.0-p0 before and it worked). the errors: http://pastie.org/private/nlw01em5dqt7ez74qmetcg thank you very much!
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<spoonman> bnagy: i'll take a look, but first i'll try to resolve my current problem
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<spoonman> bnagy: pretty sure i will run into problems when i use chruby anyway
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<cougarten> hehe, if no one want's to touch a windows problem... i can understand...
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<bnagy> cougarten: holy shit dude, it was like 3 wall minutes
<bnagy> calm down
<cougarten> bnagy, sorry, it was just ment as a joke, didn't want to be impatiant or pushy
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<bnagy> I didn't even know they had an x64 MRI
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<cougarten> bnagy, they seem to have. my ubuntu VM was crashing so often and had a little to little ram,so i wanted to go native with windows (need it for adobe stuff)
<MrZYX> dualboot?
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<bnagy> do other native gems compiler?
<cougarten> MrZYX, I do frontend development and do a lot of design, would really such to restart just to fix a pixel in Photoshop
<bnagy> *compile
<cougarten> json did i think
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<MrZYX> mmh
<cougarten> MrZYX, need to wait for steam to port photoshop or some other wonder :)
<MrZYX> I guess I'd still do a headless VM and SSH in or something, suppose you just need to run some ruby app to do your frontend dev against...
<bnagy> cougarten: ohhhand it looks like it can't find the mysql dlls
<bnagy> checking for main() in -llibmysql... no
<cougarten> bnagy, i even dropped libmysql.dll in ruby/bin
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<cougarten> bnagy, and it is of course in d:\connector-6.0.2\lib
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<bnagy> well it's extconf that has to find it - try playing with paths and stuff
<cougarten> ah but i will try to do a few more arguments, one second...
<bnagy> some gems have an ext dir where you can put binary libs
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<cougarten> trying now: gem install mysql2 --platform=ruby -- '--with-mysql-lib="d:\connector-6.0.2\lib" --with-mysql-include="d:\connector-6.0.2\include" --with-mysql-dir="d:\connector-6.0.2"'
<cougarten> but got the same error
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<cougarten> bnagy, how would i do that?
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<bnagy> do what?
<cougarten> find out if there is an external dir
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<bnagy> just look
<bnagy> blah blah gemname will have ext/ or not
<cougarten> it does
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<bnagy> maybe try dumping it in there
<cougarten> so copy libmysql.dll to D:\Ruby200-x64\lib\ruby\gems\2.0.0\gems\mysql2-0.3.11\ext or D:\Ruby200-x64\lib\ruby\gems\2.0.0\gems\mysql2-0.3.11\ext\mysql2
<cougarten> ?
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<bnagy> dunno sorry. Need to cook dinner.
<cougarten> ok, thanks a lood
<cougarten> enjoy
<bnagy> 'lucj
<cougarten> ~a lot
<bnagy> *luck
<bnagy> dammit
<bnagy> food
<cougarten> (:
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<geoffw8_> .map goes through every thing in an array doesn't it
<geoffw8_> its not like a "find method"
<geoffw8_> which to be fair I guess has to go through everything ayway
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<canton7> geoffw8_, #map is for transforming each element of an array into something else. are you after #select or #find ?
<geoffw8_> i thought #map was a synonym of #select
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<geoffw8_> canton7: essentially what i have is a big collection of objects of stores that I want to say "get only the ones out that match this smaller list"
<canton7> no, select is a filter
<geoffw8_> ok.
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<geoffw8_> that I did not know
<geoffw8_> select is probably the route
<geoffw8_> thanks canton7
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<canton7> (in C#, LINQ's Select is equivalent to ruby's #map, and LINQ's Where is equivalent to ruby's #select, if that's what's confusing you)
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<foofoobar> Hi. I want to make a static page which has a few pages (/about /imprint /contact /foo /bar /etc). I dont want to put header,content,footer in each file because when I change the header I have to edit all
<foofoobar> so I'm thinking of a static page generator
<foofoobar> I found jekyll, but it is very blog orientated, am I right?
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<cougarten> how do i set the debug flag for sass with ruby 2.0.0, rails 3.2.x? it doesn't use compass i think. I added: >>require 'sass/plugin'; Sass::Plugin.options[:debug_info] = true<< to my enviroment.rb but the compiled CSS is without debug
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<cougarten> bnagy, I found out, that i installed the p0 with railsinstaller and it worked a little better (removing the precompiled package and then sucessfully compiling it myself)
<cougarten> bnagy, just have to live with different ruby versions in the team now...
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<MarcWeber> I want to file a bug agains rake dsl which ships with ruby 1.9.3 - where is the best place to do so?
<MarcWeber> Its about file not deleting/renaming the target file if the builder fails.
<MarcWeber> This way the build job does not restart which is bad.
<MarcWeber> If rake fails, it should fail at the same point if you run it a second time.
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<joshu_> I'm working on a project where I have one file in lib/<online_service>/myscript.rb which is hosted by the online_service and separately from the rest of my sinatra app which is on heroku. Everything will be in a git repo. At the moment I upload myscript.rb to the online service via their web interface. The only other option is to use webdav to upload the file. I was thinking if writing a rake task to upload the file via webdav would be more
<joshu_> efficient. Not sure if a git hook would work. Not really sure about either option. Thoughts please?
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<charliesome> MarcWeber: https://bugs.ruby-lang.org
<charliesome> have you checked it with any other rakes
<MarcWeber> No.
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<joshu_> apeiros hi
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<cougarten> solved my sass issue
<cougarten> thanks for all
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<Dha> def self.config=(conf={}) @@config = { :api_path => '/pulp/api/v2/', :url => 'https://localhost', :user => '', :http_auth => {:password => {} }, :headers => {:content_type => 'application/json', :accept => 'application/json'}, :logging => {} }.merge(conf) end
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<Dha> Hi, can anyone explain what is use of merg
<Dha> merge(conf)
<Dha> why do we use that with ...
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<Dha> for code clarity
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<joshu_> I've got my rake task working to upload a file to a webdav server using curl. https://gist.github.com/anonymous/4904c383c030ec4bf2d8
<joshu_> How should I handle the user and pass credentials in my Rakefile? Dotenv or a config file?
<LennyLinux> Dha: do you know there is a documentation? http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.0/Hash.html#method-i-merge
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<LennyLinux> joshu_: i'd rather using a YAML file and you should write encrypted name and pass
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<joshu_> LennyLinux so a YAML file. What do you mean by "write encrypted name and pass"? Within the YAML file?
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<LennyLinux> joshu_: yes. But right now i don't know where you should put the encypt/decrypt token
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<joshu_> ok I will need to google using a YAML file as a starting point. Btw do you know why my rake task only shows the curl upload progress bar and not the response as I have the "-i" flag? It works when run outside of rake?
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<LennyLinux> I wouldn't know
<LennyLinux> joshu_: CONFIG = YAML.load(IO.read('/path/to/my/file'))
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<joshu_> LennyLinux just came across this link about yaml config files http://metabates.com/2011/06/28/lets-say-goodbye-to-yaml-for-configuration-shall-we/
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<platzhirsch> I want to access a hash with keys which go to depth 3, for instance: record[field][i][subfield] sometimes such a depth is not available
<platzhirsch> do you think it's a good idea to use exception handling for this case instead of a long if statement checking all the different cases?
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<_rgn> no
<LennyLinux> joshu_: well, that article isn't actually exposing any flaw of YAML, that's just an opinion. And as a few comments are saying YAML is portable and safer than using plain ruby
<joshu_> LennyLinux ok was just curious
<LennyLinux> that's a good thing for sure
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<LennyLinux> platzhirsch: many before you have gone through that. You should google about it
<platzhirsch> LennyLinux: okay I will look for that, thanks
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<lupine> there was "andand" at one point
<lupine> don't know if that's still cool
<joshu_> anyone having trouble using bundler
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<joshu_> I can't seem to bundle install yaml
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<lupine> isn't yaml stdlib ?
<LennyLinux> yes
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<LennyLinux> >> YAML
<eval-in> LennyLinux => uninitialized constant YAML (NameError) ... (https://eval.in/33050)
<lupine> >>require 'yaml' ; YAML
<eval-in> lupine => (https://eval.in/33051)
<LennyLinux> yeah
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<joshu_> LennyLinux can you please look at how I've set up YAML in my rake file https://gist.github.com/anonymous/60c8dae39df0f013494e
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<LennyLinux> joshu_: should be ok
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<joshu_> LennyLinux thanks. Just can't figure out why curl doesn't show the response when using rake
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<joshu_> because at the moment I have no idea if the rake task is successful or not
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<hellohey> Hi, I have a very stupid question.. I just purhcased a mabook pro to quiet my wife, and i downloaded sublime text and infact this question might not even have to do with OS but, here goes, whenever I build I just get a successful (and finished in %time) but I dont get any outputs, why?
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<joshu_> hellohey what are you building?
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<hellohey> A random .rb file
<hellohey> Was just playing around to familiarize myselves
<joshu_> and you're going to Tools > Build?
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<hellohey> Yeah, command + b
<joshu_> did you save the file before building hellohey ?
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<hellohey> gonna doublecheck so im not lying, sec
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<hellohey> nope.... silly me
<hellohey> thanks
<hellohey> Actually it wasnt tagged .rb
<hellohey> Its set to autosave on build but it was just me...
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<Soeki> hello guys, maybe someone here can help me with this question: if I have a file with these indexes 1, 1.1, 1.1.1, 1.1.1.1 - 2, 2.1, 2.1.1 how can I iterate through the represented levels?
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<fryguy> Soeki: going to need a better example than that
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<ariedler> Soeki: that is normal sorted order....
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<Soeki> im doin some coding on a balanced scorecard related school project. on that format top lvls 1 - 4 are perspective objects, next sublevel 1.1-1.4 are objectives that belong to their parent perspectives
<Soeki> and so forth
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<Soeki> i know i should somehow work with the indexes and make some sort of nested loops on them
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<elliptical> recursion?
<fryguy> Soeki: still need a lot more detail than that
<Soeki> but im kinda lost as to what to use in ruby in order to split those strings
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<elliptical> s.split('.') ?
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<fryguy> Soeki: start with expected inputs, expected outputs, write some tests, and work from there
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<Soeki> hmm i think s.split could work
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<Soeki> sweet, it actually returns an array
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<atmosx> Hello
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<atmosx> what does exactly do this method? => def [](i)
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<Hanmac> atmosx: with that you can do: obj[0] like you can do with Array or Hash
<atmosx> ah
<atmosx> hmm
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<spoonman> MrZYX: hi, i talked to you some hours ago
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<spoonman> rubygems is creating a folder named '~' in my home, i'm pretty sure its a bug, does anyone ever had this problem?
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<apeiros> spoonman: windows?
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<spoonman> no, linux
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<spoonman> i created a .gemrc file with "gemhome: ~/.gems"
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<spoonman> but instead of interpreting '~' as my home it creates a directory named '~' for the gem binaries and ".gems" for the gem libs
<spoonman> this mess with the gems installations
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<premera> Hello, I am recovering a redhat server that "allegedly" had a website running on it, I have found this folder that has references to ruby, but I am cluless about ruby myself. Does the directory listing tell anybody how to start the application, I also see references to "spree", dir listing: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5b072584ab8705281dc0
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<premera> also how do you run a typical ruby web application, does it have usually a webserver in front of it handling http requests or is it acting itself as a full webserver ? (I do not see apache installed on that machine)
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<fryguy> premera: need to see the contents of those files, but there is probably a server file in script/ that will start the server
<fryguy> looks like it's an older rails installation
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<fryguy> premera: ruby itself usually acts as an application server, and has a webserver in front of it for handling non-applicaton requests (images, etc). think about how you would deploy tomcat or similar, and that's SIMILAR to how you'd deploy ruby web applications typically
<fryguy> tomcat can be fully self-contained, but it usually has a webserver in front of it
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<premera> kk, thanks, thats helpful
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<premera> There is only a single file in the script folder, called rails, however is not marked as executable, here is contents of that file: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/f62bc1c6e21b0d3635e4.
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<fryguy> oh ok, it's a rails 3 install. it should be executable. try running "rails s" from that main directory
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<fryguy> well, hrmm, maybe don't do that, i don't know how the environments are set up
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<premera> me neither, thats the problem :-) Will give it a try anyway
<platzhirsch> is someone familiar with ick or andand?
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<platzhirsch> nevermind
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<spoonman> how can i debug 'gem install'
<fryguy> spoonman: what's wrong
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<spoonman> its creating a folder named '~' in my home directory
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<fryguy> what is
<spoonman> fryguy: ?
<premera> @fryguy, thanks a lot, it worked, something launched, its listening on port 3000, was expecting 80 but will poke around more. Is there a standard way to put it in the background ? or just standard linux wrappers ?
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<fryguy> spoonman: what is creating that directory
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<spoonman> fryguy: gem install
<fryguy> spoonman: which gem
<spoonman> fryguy: any gem
<fryguy> spoonman: show us
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<spoonman> i have a .gemrc file with this "gemhome: ~/.gems"
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<fryguy> premera: -d to run in background, port 3000 is the standard port for rails applications in development mode. take a look at the RAILS_ENV environment variable (and the corresponding environments in the environments directory in config/) to see how things are set up for different areas
<spoonman> instead of interpreting the ~ as my home its creating a ~ folder
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<premera> kk, thanks
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<fryguy> spoonman: so, sounds like you know what the problem is and how to fix it then
<spoonman> fryguy: thats why i want to debug gem install
<fryguy> spoonman: just use $HOME
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<spoonman> yeah it works but i would like it to work with ~/.gems
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<Morrolan> premera: For production you'll probably want Apache or nginx in front of Rails' application server.
<fryguy> spoonman: why
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<spoonman> fryguy: i want to learn
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<premera> @Morrolan, yeah I understand that, I am just recovering a machine, no clue whats in there, so was wondering if apparent lack of apache should be alarming or not
<Morrolan> premera: Ah. :)
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<Morrolan> If it was a low-traffic application for internal use they probably just used it 'out of the box'. :)
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<premera> yeah, the firewall had only 22,80 and 3000 ports open, so not sure if 80 was in use but that I can ask users, how they were accessing the website
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<fryguy> spoonman: source code for latest gem is available here: http://rubygems.org/pages/download
<spoonman> fryguy: im new to the ruby ecosystem, how can i debug this?
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<fryguy> spoonman: start looking at the source code, write some tests, use a gdb-based debugger like you would in other languages, consider using something like pry, use the repl that's provided for you.
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<spoonman> fryguy: ok, thanks
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<adramalech> hello! had a question about trying to get 2d/3d GUI framework for 1.9/2.0 can anybody suggest a good one? most of them I encountered are dead...
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<Hanmac> adramalech: i used gosu for 2d and i make an ogre binding for 3d ... (but mines is not finish yet)
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<adramalech> okay... yea I was looking for a good binding.. I saw GTK3, and a GTK2... looking for something cross platform...
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<adramalech> and the binding api I searched wasn't really live
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<joshu_> if you are restricted to using a single file for a ruby app what's the best way to organise the code? Does it make sense to have multiple classes for instance?
<adramalech> well if you use OOP, than it does
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<adramalech> it depends on if your making something you want to make "extensibile" code
<adramalech> using one source code file is just formatting. Making multiple classes is semantics.
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<nebrera_> helllo
<nebrera_> I need to install jruby/jrubyc, where can I find it ?
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<momomomomo> nebrera_: on the google
<nebrera_> sure
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<nebrera_> I have tried
<nebrera_> but not found
<momomomomo> what's your issue nebrera_
<momomomomo> http://jruby.org/
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<nebrera_> how do I install a gem with .gem file ?
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<Spooner> nebrera_, You shouldn't need to directly. You should be installing gems via the "gem" command (in which case they will download for you).
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<nebrera_> but I don't find this gem in gem file
<spike|spiegel> magic
<nebrera_> I thats why it is so confusing for me
<spike|spiegel> nebrera_: have you tried.. ummm.. may be a gem install /path/to/file.gem?
<nebrera_> I will try
<nebrera_> gua
<nebrera_> worked
<nebrera_> :-D
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<spike|spiegel> next time, poke around a bit before giving up and asking
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<joshu_> in a Rake task how can I stop the task if a parameter has not been provided when executing the task, e.g. rake do_something PARAMETER=2
<joshu_> so if PARAMETER=2 is not specified don't run the task
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<Spooner> joshu_, You pass params to rake with: rake do_something[2]
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<Spooner> Or: rake do_something[2,3,8]
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<joshu_> Spooner ok I was looking at an example online which does it as I showed and defines ENV['PARAMETER'] in the rake task
<Spooner> And then accept them with task :do_something, :a, :b, :c do |*args|
<Spooner> args[:a], etc.
<joshu_> search for COFFEE_CUPS
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<Spooner> YEah, you can do that, but that is a nubbish way to do it ;)
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<joshu_> Spooner ok I will do it your way ;)
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<Spooner> I wasn't giving the correct block params originally. Sorry.
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<Spooner> Coincidentally, today I used "shovel" for the first time (Rake for Python) :D
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<nebrera_> sorry spike|spiegel, but still not working
<nebrera_> :-(
<nebrera_> I don't know what to do
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<nebrera_> it puts: require 'jruby/jrubyc'
<nebrera_> but I don't find this gem anywhere
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<joshu_> no worries just reading the link you sent me Spooner looks good. ;)
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<Spooner> nebrera_, According to the info page, jrubyc adds a command line application
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<nebrera_> I am trying to install actually redstorm gem
<nebrera_> when I do red storm install is ask me for last gem
<nebrera_> thats why I need it
<Spooner> Can you be a little more clear on what you are doing?
<Spooner> gem install redstorm
<nebrera_> I have done it
<nebrera_> and it install
<nebrera_> but
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<nebrera_> the documentations says I have to execute
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<Spooner> Oh, and now you are doing "redstorm install" ?
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<nebrera_> redstorm install
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<nebrera_> I get this error
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<Spooner> Well, there you are using CRuby, not JRuby.
<nebrera_> ahm
<nebrera_> how do you know it ?
<nebrera_> the error says jruby/jrubyc (LoadError)
<Spooner> The path says ruby1.9.3
<nebrera_> and on the file red_storm.rake I see: equire 'jruby/jrubyc'
<havenwood> nebrera_: yeah, cause MRI can't find jruby/jrubyc since it isn't JRuby.
<Spooner> Yes, but you need to run the gem with JRuby.
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<Spooner> Not with MRI/CRuby.
<nebrera_> I see
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<Spooner> Are you sure you want to be playing with something like RedStorm before you know the difference between JRuby and CRuby?
<havenwood> nebrera_: I'd suggest considering using a tool to select the Ruby you desire. Have you taken a look at chruby, rbenv, or RVM?
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<nebrera_> ok
<Spooner> havenwood, The pastie showed RVM was being used.
<nebrera_> I understand
<nebrera_> I use rvm
<havenwood> Spooner: Aha, nice.
<Spooner> havenwood, Which was how I knew it was CRuby (due to rvm ruby path in error message).
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<Spooner> But, more simply, if you are using CRuby, you can't run RedStorm (and, unless you are using JRuby, it is completely useless to you).
<nebrera_> have you ever used red storm ?
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<Spooner> No. I only use CRuby.
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<Spooner> Which is dumb, because CRuby sucks (Though, ironically, works best of Windows and with extensions).
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<joshu_> anyone use sublime text for ruby dev?
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<codesoda> joshu_: VIM ftw!
<codesoda> ha ha
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<joshu_> codesoda ok well if there are any sublime users I've got a question. I keep switching to Termina.app to run rake tasks and my code in general. Do you sublime users do this within sublime?
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<Xavierstein> Would this be the appropriate place to ask a question about the imgur ruby gem?
<Xeago> joshu_: it is quite common to frequently switch between editor and shell
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<joshu_> Xeago ok just thought I'd ask for any different workflows ;)
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<joshu_> so Spooner I'm using the better syntax, e.g. task :call, [:number] do |t, args|
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<joshu_> if the task is run like this: rake call without the :number argument. How can I get the task to abort. Do I just add abort?
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<jpastore> Hi, I'm totally new to ruby. I am actually trying to translate an API example I found into another language. can someone explain a line of code to me? t = Time.now.gmtime.strftime("%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%S") # does the %dT put a hard T between date and time or does %dT mean something?
<Xeago> a hard T
<Xeago> there is a timezone format that looks like that
<jpastore> thanks
<Xeago> 2013-06-18T12:34:55
<jpastore> yea teh API calls needs a recent timestamp
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<Xeago> It I think it is the most common time format
<Xeago> but it misses timezone
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<Morrolan> >> DateTime.now.rfc3339
<eval-in> Morrolan => uninitialized constant DateTime (NameError) ... (https://eval.in/33061)
<jpastore> well it seems to work. now I just need to figure out my authentication error =)
<jpastore> thanks
<Morrolan> >> require 'date'; DateTime.now.rfc3339
<eval-in> Morrolan => "2013-06-08T22:01:11+02:00" (https://eval.in/33062)
<Morrolan> Convencience methods, at your disposal. :)
<apeiros> I think iso8601 is the better known name of that format ;-)
<Morrolan> Probably. :D
<Spooner> joshu_, You can just use: exit unless args[:number]
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<joshu_> Spooner I just did this before you replied args[:number].nil? abort "\nA number is required to run task"
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<Spooner> There isn't a conditional there.
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<Spooner> You need to invert it with an 'if'
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<joshu_> Spooner so .nil? isn't sufficient?
<joshu_> I have to prefix with an if
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<Xeago_> bah, psychs is slow.. https://github.com/psychs/limechat/pull/136
<Spooner> No: abort "\nA number is required to run task" if args[:number].nil?
<Morrolan> .nil? is just the name of the method which returns 'true' if it is nil, it's not a ternary operator, if that's what you thought it was.
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<Spooner> joshu_, Basic Ruby syntax ;)
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<joshu_> ok thanks Spooner Morrolan
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<apeiros> wtf, chanserv off?
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<Xeago_> online but not responding :O
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<Xeago_> confirmed in #freenode
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<Morrolan> Looking at the current situation that's no wonder. :P
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<Morrolan> Seems most of the ungraceful quits are Whoop's, though.
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<Xeago_> #freenode is kinda busy at the moment.. :\
<apeiros> yeah, wanted to ban Whoop
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<apeiros> but thanks to unresponding chanserv…
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<Morrolan> apeiros: Time to do it the old-fashiond way, then? ;)
<Xeago_> apparently services are under ddos
<Morrolan> s/ond/oned/
<apeiros> Morrolan: which would be?
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<Morrolan> /mode #ruby +b, I'd say? (Possibly with extban, if Freenode supports it.)
<apeiros> um, yeah…
<apeiros> it's a *tiny* bit difficult without op…
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<Morrolan> Oh, whoops.
<apeiros> which is what I need chanserv for
<Morrolan> You've got a point. ;)
<tomaw> he should be fixed now
<apeiros> :)
<apeiros> nope
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<Xeago_> nah still 30sec interval on the mark
<apeiros> will try again in 5
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<joshu_> I have abort "A number is required to run task" unless args[:number1] which works if I only have one argument. But if I have 2 and I want to make sure that both are provided can I still use unless something like unless args.all
<atmosx> joshu_: why don't you try
<atmosx> it's fairly easy test
<joshu_> I have it didn't work
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<joshu_> The abort is executed even if I both args are specified
<atmosx> joshu_: paste your code
<joshu_> ok one sec
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<Spooner> unless args.empty?
<canton7> if args.empty?
<Spooner> Oops, yes.
<canton7> :P
<Spooner> Or unless args.size == 2
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<Spooner> But I think the args are always there, even if they are nil. Can't remember.
<atmosx> or unless args[:number1] ||/&& args[:number2]
<atmosx> you might wanna put a () there
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<apeiros> proshot an arrow to his knee
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<joshu_> hmm so far unless args.empty?, if args.empty? and unless args.size == 2 don't work
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<atmosx> unless don't.work?
<joshu_> no atmosx those three options never execute abort oddly enough
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<Morrolan> The keys are probably present no matter whether the argument was specified or not, the corresponding values will then just be 'nil'.
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<joshu_> only one that seems to work so far is unless args[:number1] && args[:number2]
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<joshu_> which is fine but if I had more arguments it would probably not be a good idea to use that syntax
<Morrolan> 'unless args.any? { |key, value| value.nil? }' is probably closer to what you want?
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<Morrolan> Or even 'unless args.values.any?(&:nil?)'
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<joshu_> Morrolan unfortunately just tested with rake and neither one worked :( maybe it's something to do with rake
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<joshu_> anyway thanks for everyone's input
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<Morrolan> joshu_: Add a 'p args' (or 'puts args.inspect') somewhere in that task, the output which it writes to stdout is probably going to be helpful in debugging this.
<joshu_> ok Morrolan one sec
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<joshu_> Morrolan output without any arguments {}
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<joshu_> Morrolan one argument {:number1=>"1"}
<joshu_> Morrolan two arguments {:number1=>"1", :number2=>"2"}
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<Morrolan> Ah, yes, with an empty hash the 'any?' block will return 'false'. So changing it to 'unless args.empty? || args.values.any?(&:nil?)' should help.
<Morrolan> Oh, wait, if it behaves like that, the second condition will not work as desired, either.
<joshu_> Morrolan undefined method `any?' for nil:NilClass
<Morrolan> 'unless [:key1, :key2, :key3].all? { |key| args.keys.include? key }' is worth a shot.
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<Morrolan> (Replacing the [:key1, :key2, :key3] array with the arguments which you want the user to supply.)
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<joshu_> sure going to test now brb
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<Morrolan> Also, everyone else who is listening in on this conversation: Feel free to chime in if something which I say doesn't make sense, I'm not in top shape at the moment. ;)
<joshu_> Morrolan new error undefined method `include?' for nil:NilClass
<joshu_> seems as if rake doesn't play nice
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<Morrolan> Huh, I wonder why args.keys returns 'nil'.
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<joshu_> yeah did a p args.key and it's always nil even with args
<joshu_> *args.keys
<Morrolan> 'unless args.keys.nil? || [:key1, :key2, :key3].all? { |key| args.keys.include? key }' then. ('unless args.empty? || ... would probably work, too, but I don't want to assume anything about this hash at the moment.)
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<Morrolan> Oh, one moment, there's an 'unless' there, not an 'if'.
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<Morrolan> in this case 'unless args.keys && [:key1, :key2, :key3].all? { |key| args.keys.include? key }'
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<Morrolan> Got a feeling I should go to bed. :P
<Xeago> Morrolan: I think there are some 'binary' operations you can do on array
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<Xeago> >> [1,2,3] & [2,3]
<eval-in> Xeago => [2, 3] (https://eval.in/33063)
<Xeago> tho not sure if that would help you
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<Morrolan> Xeago: Oh, set operations, yea, might be a bit cleaner than array.all? {...}, if used right.
<Xeago> >> [1,2,3] & [2,3,4]
<eval-in> Xeago => [2, 3] (https://eval.in/33064)
<apeiros> also faster
<Xeago> zomagawd, an op
<Morrolan> That's probably something you don't have to worry about with a CLI task. ;)
<Xeago> he must be the inventorist of ruby
* Xeago kneels before the opness
<apeiros> (set intersection is O(n+m), nested array intersecting is O(n*m))
<Xeago> all hail the op!
<apeiros> yeah, sticking to op for now due to those chanserv issues
<Morrolan> (He just enjoys the power.) :)
<Xeago> ddos has been nullrouted already
<apeiros> doesn't mean it'll stay that way. but well, freenode usually reacts reasonably fast.
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<Xeago> otherwise, had an op from #freenode on pm when services got restored
<Xeago> was slow with getting his info
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<Xeago> btw, #ruby, I got a cat
<Xeago> about a week ago
<Xeago> just so you know
<apeiros> so you'll randomly type stuff…
<apeiros> and then pull that up as your excuse? :)
<Xeago> its had its first cat-in-a-box pictureshoot today
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<Xeago> zomg, pictureshoot => photoshoot
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<GabboY> Heyya. Any user of ruby 2.0+phantomjs ?
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<Faris1> GabboY: what is it? a webcrawler that supports js ?
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<apeiros> yay, 3 dummies…
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<Apane> Any good sources at becoming better at Ruby? So far I've read 'The Well Grounded-Rubyist' and 'Elequent Ruby'.
<Apane> _why's stuff is pretty good too
<julian-delphiki> I'd just start writing stuff.
<julian-delphiki> personally
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<lucianosousa> i'll start read confident ruby next week -> https://shiprise.dpdcart.com/
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<Apane> lucianosousa: Thanks!
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<lucianosousa> you're welcome
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<joshu_> I come across these two variations of syntax quite a bit and I'm unsure which is preferred or if they are equal. The first is {allow_signals: yes, something_else: "1234"}
<joshu_> and the second is {:allow_signals => yes, something_else => "1234}
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<momomomomo_> joshu new syntax is the former, old syntax is the latter - it's preference at this point, I'm not sure if the old syntax will ever be deprecated
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<joshu_> momomomomo_ thanks do the two syntaxes have any specific names?
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<havenwood> joshu_: => is a hash rocket
<joshu_> havenwood haha cool :D
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<joshu_> thank havenwood will make sure I don't use the hash rocket as awesome as it sounds :P
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<havenwood> joshu_: The hash rocket is necessary when your key isn't a symbol. When the key is a symbol, I like the new syntax.
<Apane> I'm getting an error when uprading to Ruby 2.0
<Apane> "Error running 'env LDFLAGS=-L/opt/sm/pkg/active/lib CFLAGS=-I/opt/sm/pkg/active/include CPATH=/opt/sm/pkg/active/include ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/rvm/rubies/ruby-2.0.0-p195 --with-openssl-dir=/Users/anthonypanepinto/.rvm/usr --with-opt-dir=/opt/sm/pkg/active --disable-install-doc --without-tcl --without-tk --enable-shared',
<Apane> please read /usr/local/rvm/log/ruby-2.0.0-p195/1370730974_configure.log
<Apane> There has been an error while running configure. Halting the installation."
<havenwood> joshu_: Some people don't like how it looks when key and value are symbols. I don't mind. { aim: :pretty_good }
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<Apane> Any idea on how I can get this working
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<joshu_> ah I see havenwood
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<havenwood> Apane: What does _configure.log file it mentions say? You might try #rvm as well.
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<joshu_> wait havenwood I'm confused by what you said. In my example, {allow_signals: yes, something_else: "1234"} the keys are not symbols, right no colon prefix and no hash rocket.
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<havenwood> joshu_: They key are symbols. E.g.: { aim: true } == { :aim => true }
<havenwood> joshu_: The ':' moves from the left of the symbol to the right. Only for symbols, which are frequently used as hash keys.
<joshu_> havenwood ok makes sense now
<momomomomo_> joshu_: with the new syntax, symbols (usually represented as :key) which are keys are represnted like :key
* apeiros still sad that {"complex-symbol": value} is not valid :(
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<apeiros> still have to use hash-rocket for that
<havenwood> apeiros: yeah, that is disconcerting
<Apane> havenwood: ran brew doctor basically I have to re-route some paths.
<havenwood> hrm, would be nice for 2.1 - guess it isn't a common use-case :O
<Apane> havenwood, any idea how to do this "Consider amending your PATH so that /usr/local/bin
<Apane> occurs before /usr/bin in your PATH."
<havenwood> Apane: OS?
<Apane> OS moutain lion
<Apane> 10.8.3
<havenwood> Apane: Oh, brew... of course. I'm slow today.
<apeiros> havenwood: actually it is. think rails + haml
<havenwood> Apane: Yeah, just edit /etc/paths
<apeiros> %sometag{"data-foo": value}
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<havenwood> apeiros: oooh, hrm yeah
<apeiros> ok, well, not *that* common
<apeiros> but in that niche, it is common
<havenwood> solution, don't use HAML :P
<apeiros> also json exchanges
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<apeiros> aaahaha… no.
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<Apane> who else is running mIRC on OSX with Wine?
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<fryguy> Apane: LOL
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<pinage404> good night
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<konr> I wrote a validator in rails: "validates :title, :description, presence: true". The rightmost part syntax is confusing. Is there an implicit pair of brackets?
<havenwood> konr: Rails channel is #RubyOnRails.
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<konr> havenwood: it's about syntax, not rails
<havenwood> konr: Yeah, called a naked hash.
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<konr> havenwood: can I deliberately put brackets there?
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<momomomomo_> konr: yes
<havenwood> konr: You can leave the curly braces, but it is idiomatic to remove them.
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<konr> thanks!
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<Godd2> I'm a little confused on how to add a child class in a different file.
<Godd2> Here's the basic structure of what's wrong: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5737035
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<Godd2> Am I using bad file organization? or am I loading at the wrong time? Or is it something else?
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