<popl>
bnagy: what happens if names.txt does not exist?
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<pontiki>
you get an error
<pontiki>
ENOENTRY
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<ner0x>
Anyone use carrierwave_direct and have the issue with not being allowed to use :file as the column name? Suggested alternate names? I'm thinking :object or :obj
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<Dekade>
I'm trying to create an ircbot, but on connecting it times out in the process. Pretty sure It's because the server is expecting a pong reply. Not so sure how to handle that though, any hints? I'm kind of new to this stuff.
<sam113101>
Dekade: does it send you pings?
<Dekade>
well, I haven't really captured the ping, so I can't say for 100%. But it's connecting for sure, he's doing the ident check ups and stuff.
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<Dekade>
I'm pretty certain it's because I need to send the pong reply
<sam113101>
well, where's the problem?
<sam113101>
you should have some kind of loop
<sam113101>
where you're listening to incoming data
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<Dekade>
yes I have
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<Dekade>
the problem is that I get dropped before it's really finished connecting.
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<sam113101>
how long does it take?
<Dekade>
about 20 seconds
<sam113101>
that's not ping timeout then
<sam113101>
seems too short to me
<Dekade>
so what would it be? I'm not sending any commands or stuff.
<sam113101>
show code
<Dekade>
there's a timer on the commands I'm going to send, so theres some time to finish connecting
<sam113101>
pastebin it
<Dekade>
yeah moment
<sam113101>
also you could sniff it to see what really happens
<mujahadean>
and tomorrow I have a hackathon with this???!!!!
<popl>
heh
<mujahadean>
I can't even past the configuration
<mujahadean>
man
<popl>
mujahadean: maybe you don't have the temperament for this
<mujahadean>
what type of temperament? no one should be stuck on configuration for 2 days. That's unprecedented in programming
<mujahadean>
this thing is probably right up there with spring framework
<mujahadean>
configuration hell on earth
<popl>
did you install that dev package?
<mujahadean>
on ubuntu?
<popl>
yeah
<mujahadean>
no
<mujahadean>
I don't think so
<popl>
heh
<popl>
I'm going to stop helping you if you don't listen to my advice.
<mujahadean>
i've been listening for 4 hours
<mujahadean>
maybe 6 hours
<popl>
what?
<popl>
16:39 < popl> try installing it and see if it doesn't fix your problem
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<popl>
that was four hours ago I suggested that
<mujahadean>
how can I install dev package? At this point I don't know anymore
<popl>
then take a walk
<popl>
you're clearly frustrated and not thinking straight
<mujahadean>
I don't have the time
<popl>
then fail
<popl>
or calm down
<mujahadean>
hackathon is in a couple of hours and I really don't have the time
<popl>
those are your options
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<mujahadean>
man this ruby on rails thing can't even be installed properly on windows
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<popl>
mujahadean: it is a poor carpenter that blames his tools
<mujahadean>
someone yesterday said "my suggestion, use unix or mac because, windows blah blah blah"
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<mujahadean>
dude I just started using ruby on rails since yesterday
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<mujahadean>
and it's been a nightmare
<popl>
yeah, me too
<popl>
:P
<mujahadean>
right up there when I started to use spring framework
<popl>
you can't be hot-headed with this stuff
<popl>
things are going to go wrong
<mujahadean>
too highly freaking coupled to the OS and too many damn different dependencies
<popl>
you are wasting time bitching about it :)
<mujahadean>
man u calling me a hot-head and I've been stuck on this for 2 days?
<popl>
I told you how to fix it and you won't
<mujahadean>
too many people give me advice on how to fix "it" and nothing
<popl>
have you tried my advice?
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<mujahadean>
use windows. no use unix. no use bundler. no use ruby dev package .no use rvm
<mujahadean>
man this is too much
<mujahadean>
I will try
<popl>
heh
<popl>
dude, it's up to you to learn how to use a computer.
<mujahadean>
lol
<mujahadean>
man
<bnagy>
someone needs a juicy box and a lie down I think
<mujahadean>
what dev package u are talking about?
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<popl>
mujahadean: hey dude, scroll up and refresh yourself about our conversation we had.
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<popl>
it happened like four hours ago and you were bitchy and cursing then too
<popl>
or just google the error message you got
<popl>
because that's what I did
<popl>
*I* did work to resolve *your* error.
<popl>
Because I'm such a nice guy. :P
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<mujahadean>
what?
<mujahadean>
anyway I did google and found that I need to use ruby dev package
<popl>
bnagy: I'll have a scotch and a lie down if you please
<mujahadean>
I use shitty rvm to install it
<r0bgleeson>
mujahadean: rails isn't hard to install, there's just a lot of options and a lot of people have opinions about the right way, in short though, all you need is ruby(1.9+), and 'gem'.
<r0bgleeson>
thats it.
<mujahadean>
and rvm seems that it didn't install the dev package although I said rvm install ruby-1.9.1-dev
<mujahadean>
r0bgleeson: plz. You make it sound so simple
<mujahadean>
I did do all of that
<popl>
it is simple
<r0bgleeson>
well, was RVM was a mistake
<r0bgleeson>
its a complicated mess
<popl>
you're just complicating it mujahadean
<r0bgleeson>
but again comes to opinions
<mujahadean>
and I keep getting a shitty bycrypt-ruby 3.0.0 exception
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<r0bgleeson>
so really, just install one ruby, 1.9, and use gem to install rails
<r0bgleeson>
thats how simple it is
<r0bgleeson>
version management etc worry about later
<popl>
r0bgleeson: in ubuntu you need to install ruby and ruby-dev
<bnagy>
r0bgleeson: he doesn't have mkmf
<bnagy>
and he can't computer enough to use apt
<r0bgleeson>
thats a one-liner?
<popl>
because ubuntu splits their shit
<popl>
yeah he's too inept to use apt
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<mujahadean>
r0bgleeson: what u are saying I did all of that
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<mujahadean>
I'm inept?
<mujahadean>
lol
<mujahadean>
u are crazy
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<mujahadean>
I told u I use rvm as a ruby version manager
<popl>
oh my fucking god
<mujahadean>
because, at this point..i would have 2 versions
<popl>
mujahadean: ubuntu. install the system package
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<mujahadean>
lol
<mujahadean>
popl: u are funny
<r0bgleeson>
mujahadean: what is your current problem?
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<mujahadean>
sorry for making something serious funny
<mujahadean>
after the install ruby1.9.1-full -y is finish...I will run that command
<r0bgleeson>
popl: it is a ruby version tool, it manages different rubies + installing them + installing their dependencies, on whatever platform you use, and it does its job through shell monkey patches.
<r0bgleeson>
its a complicated beast.
<mujahadean>
it's already in progres
<havenwood>
<3 chruby
<r0bgleeson>
if youre not familiar with your OS+shell it seems to confuse the shit out of people
<popl>
ah
<popl>
r0bgleeson: for perl we use perlbrew for that
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<popl>
and local::lib to maintain different local repos for modules
<popl>
it's really handy
<popl>
but I have a feeling it is more developed than rvm :P
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<r0bgleeson>
if you're new to ruby the chances are you dont care about multiple versions
<pontiki>
the *brews tend to be rather well done
<popl>
righto
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<mujahadean>
so right...I have ruby1.9.3 and ruby1.9.1 (not dev)
<mujahadean>
and now I am installing the dev veresion
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<mujahadean>
so do you think I need to uninstall those 2 prior version
<r0bgleeson>
keep 1.9.3
<mujahadean>
ok
<bnagy>
don't uninstall anything
<bnagy>
1.9.1-full is just the ABI, you'll get 1.9.3
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<havenwood>
^
<bnagy>
just install your gem again
<mujahadean>
ok
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<bnagy>
wtf.. no wait you do have 1.9.1
<popl>
bnagy: dude, don't confuse the guy anymore
<bnagy>
no I'm looking at the dumb screenshare
<mujahadean>
so don't do -> rvm use ruby1.9.1-full
<bnagy>
ohhh you used rvm as well
<mujahadean>
yes
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<bnagy>
your ruby -v as a user is not the same as when you sudo gem instalol
<popl>
mujahadean: you should get rid of rvm and just install the ubuntu system packages for ruby
<bnagy>
rvm use system and try ruby -v again
<bnagy>
or just rvm implode and kill it with fire
<mujahadean>
lol
<mujahadean>
ok
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<mujahadean>
did it
<bnagy>
sweet, now do whatever you were doing before
<mujahadean>
ok
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<mujahadean>
:D
<bnagy>
theeere we go
<mujahadean>
seems to install bcrypt-ruby
<bnagy>
also you should tell Annie t learn to spell properly
<mujahadean>
:)
<mujahadean>
lol
<bnagy>
and get rid of that AV
<mujahadean>
that's my wife dude
<mujahadean>
but, thanks mate
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<mujahadean>
I will tell her
<mujahadean>
she'll probably say "tell that dude to f off" :)
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<popl>
"Tale that dewd too f awf"
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<mujahadean>
you go know what this is saying -> installing pg. Failed to build gem native extension checking for pg_config...yes
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<mujahadean>
it's up on the screen share
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<mujahadean>
I know it's postgres but, I already have postgresql with pgadmin installed on the vm
<popl>
scroll back up so I can see theerror
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<bnagy>
odds are you some some pg-dev or libpg or something
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<mujahadean>
yeah I saw that
<mujahadean>
ok popl
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<popl>
goodness that's slow
<popl>
scrolled up too far
<popl>
and he can't see me because he's scrolling
<popl>
there he is
<popl>
hi!
<mujahadean>
there it is popl
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<mujahadean>
hi
<popl>
yeah, you need libpg-dev
<mujahadean>
ok
<mujahadean>
but, again I have postges install
<mujahadean>
so it need another installation of pg
<popl>
remember how you needed the ubuntu ruby-dev package?
<popl>
same sort of thing
<mujahadean>
ok
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<mujahadean>
but, I am building a server side app...ruby on rails
<mujahadean>
so I think it's the other postgresql-server-dev-x.y
<bnagy>
packages have a 'package for using stuff
<bnagy>
and a package for developing for stuff
<mujahadean>
I see
<bnagy>
so pg just gets you the db to use. If you want to write code against it, like the ruby pg bindings, you need all the headers and stuff
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<popl>
I see you are in ##linux. that channel is shitty. you would be better served asking your linux questions in #ubuntu, mujahadean
<mujahadean>
yeah I know
<mujahadean>
for some reason whenever I start up chatzilla..it comes up by default
<mujahadean>
I never get help there
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<popl>
mujahadean: the x.y is the version number
<popl>
mujahadean: you need to look it up in the apt repo
<mujahadean>
ok
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<popl>
mujahadean: dude, look it up with apt-cache or something
<popl>
mujahadean: you don't need google
<mujahadean>
ok
<popl>
oh jeez
<popl>
can someone tell mujahadean how to look this up with apt-cache? I don't knwo the syntax
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<popl>
*know
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<popl>
haha
<mujahadean>
found it popl
<popl>
I see that
<mujahadean>
9.1 and all
<mujahadean>
so I'm going to use all
<mujahadean>
well...gonna use 9.1 instead
<mujahadean>
let me see
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<mujahadean>
going on a call with my wife
<mujahadean>
gonna pause the screen share ;)
<popl>
have fun
<popl>
oh god smiley icons
<popl>
:|
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<pontiki>
isn't is just `apt-cache showpkg <pkgname>` ?
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<popl>
pontiki: search
<bnagy>
dkpg --list | grep blah | grep -v ii or something
<popl>
apt-cache search <pkg>
<bnagy>
apt-cache search works as well
<popl>
that's what they told him when he asked in the ubuntu channel
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<pontiki>
what's the normal way ppl use ruby on windows?
<pontiki>
RailsInstaller?
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<mujahadean>
so after a successful bundle install with pg (wrong package postgresql-server-dev-9.1). I then ran gem uninstall pg AND then sudo apt-get uninstall postgresql-server-dev-9.1
<mujahadean>
I then sudo apt-get install libpq-dev and then reran sudo bundle install
<mujahadean>
that should be fine to resolve the dependency again right?
<bnagy>
pontiki: imho Jruby is the best option
<bnagy>
there's a new rubyinstaller for 64 bit MRI with 2.0
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<bnagy>
there's really not a lot of us using ruby on windows though
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<RubyPanther>
pontiki: use the oneclick, not JRuby, and install also their "devkit"
<pontiki>
i'm not a windows user at all
<RubyPanther>
I dev 100% on linux, and even my C extensions "just work" with dev kit + bundler, I didn't have to do _anything_
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<mujahadean>
bnagy: when i try to -> sudo rails server I am getting a javascript runtime can not be found
<mujahadean>
any ideas?
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<RubyPanther>
although I've only used on a few systems as it is rare I'm stuck with a windows using client
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<bnagy>
I know 0 about rails
<bnagy>
RubyPanther: good that you have such a strong opinion then
<ovi>
hiee all
<RubyPanther>
bnagy: I do have a strong opinion where the choices are a standard, portable way or an alternate version that changes the requirements
<bnagy>
normal ruby installer is not portable across 32/64
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<RubyPanther>
especially if you're not a windows version, you don't want to get stuck maintaining a windows version, or JRuby version, if you don't have to. I mean, unless you're otherwise already using JRuby.
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<bnagy>
there's no jruby 'version'
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<RubyPanther>
there often is, of dependencies
<RubyPanther>
it is often not a drop-in replacement
<bnagy>
anyway whatever
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<RubyPanther>
If you normally use MRI, and it turns out that the windows one-click + devkit gives you a totally "normal" experience, it seems like a no-brainer
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<pontiki>
not sure why you need sudo with rake db:schema:load...
<mujahadean>
ok let me try it without
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<pontiki>
ugh
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<pontiki>
since you did it sudo, it build the log as owned by root
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<popl>
\o/
<pontiki>
did you create the rails app with sudo as well?
<mujahadean>
rails app was imported with git
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<pontiki>
did you use sudo on the git clone command?
<mujahadean>
no
<pontiki>
ok
<bnagy>
sudo all the things!
<pontiki>
do an ls -l log
<bnagy>
SUDO IS LIKE SAYING I RLY MEAN IT
<pontiki>
get your own sam damwich
<popl>
sudo /staball
<popl>
didn't work
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<pontiki>
yeah, you need to change ownership of the log
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<mujahadean>
owner to "dean"
<pontiki>
sudo chown dean:dean log/* should do it
<mujahadean>
ok
<popl>
we should get paid for this
<popl>
:)
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<mujahadean>
I am a piss poor developer
<pontiki>
since i haven't been watching
<pontiki>
please gist your config/database.yml file
<mujahadean>
ok
<popl>
mujahadean: you just need to learn how to read documentation and spend less time relying on other people. insulting yourself is not going to make you feel better or make the situation any better.
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<mujahadean>
I agree popl
<mujahadean>
just that time is short because, of that hackathon in a couple of hours
<popl>
yeah well you can blame your wife for calling you ;P
<mujahadean>
I would really like to spend the time and learn it
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<Boohbah>
Hanmac: i've forced my Bignums to overflow at unsigned 64 bits so i don't get negatives :)
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<noocode>
hi, i tried haml with sinatra today, and pasted a big ghost text under a %p tag, and it did not work... is haml not able to deal with big texts?
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<canton7>
noocode, there's not nearly enough detail in that sentence to work out what happened. define "did not work"
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<ChristianS>
.downcase doesn't seem to work for non-ascii characters, how do i fix that?
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<ChristianS>
ah, installing unicode_utils and calling UnicodeUtils.downcase did the trick
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<Moon_Doggy>
anyone awake
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<MrZYX>
no
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<Moon_Doggy>
lol
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<Moon_Doggy>
i have ruby 1.8.7-p370 installed from source, how do i uninstall it
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<noocode>
hello
<noocode>
did anyone answered to my haml problem
<noocode>
if yes, i did not get the message because of a reboot
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<Quadlex>
Hey ruby, what's really good
<apeiros>
vodka
<Morrolan>
Pancakes, chocolate ice cream, good meat.
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<apeiros>
chateaubriand
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<Quadlex>
Co-rect. 5 points
<Quadlex>
Also free beer
<apeiros>
beer is not good
<Morrolan>
Depends on the kind of beer. :)
<Quadlex>
free.
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<evilNirvana>
what is the easiest way to do extremely simple MySQL queries in ruby?
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<evilNirvana>
moomerman: can i do this without having to setup my databases in ruby? thats all done in MySQL and i /really/ dont want to put out the massive columset in ruby ;-;
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<canton7>
evilNirvana, looks like 'total' is nil?
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<waxjar>
total is nil on the first run. but you don't want to use #each here, you want to use #inject/#reduce
<evilNirvana>
i do?
<flyinprogramer>
so ActiveResource; i see how it inherits from the class name - and then allows you to do quickly build out entities of an API; but what if you want make a call to the Root of the api to auto-discover the available entities -- is there an 'easy' way to do that in ActiveResource fashion ?
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<evilNirvana>
waxjar: can you explain inject/reduse over each for me? i'm not sure what they are
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<mbinder>
hi guys, i have a problem extending my scss library. i wanna create a file_exists function for fonts and other stuff relative to my project root. currently my function returns false (every time)
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<pontiki>
evilNirvana: what they have been trying to tell you is that total has not been set before you enter your .each loop, therefore it is nil, and you can get an integer from nil
<mbinder>
anyone know how i can get the callee base directory?
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<evilNirvana>
pontiki:
<pontiki>
evilNirvana: *if* you do not want to go the inject/reduce route, which can seem arcane at first go, change line 59 in your paste to: total = row.skillpoints.to_i + total.to_i
<evilNirvana>
holy carp
<pontiki>
which is a true bastardisation
<evilNirvana>
i tried that once
<evilNirvana>
and it didnt work
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<evilNirvana>
now it does
<pontiki>
SHOW US
<evilNirvana>
hangon, gotta pageup in screen
<evilNirvana>
ah
<evilNirvana>
i was still trying inject
<evilNirvana>
now that it works
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<mbinder>
hmmmm...
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<pontiki>
doing it the inject way, try cs.skills.map(&:skillpoints).reduce(:+) and see what you get
<dreamr>
functional programming is killing my brain :)
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<dreamr>
nice being stumped with ruby again though
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<dreamr>
*crickets*
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<popl>
that's not a question, that's a URL
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<apeiros>
dreamr: when you don't get an answer for your question, you've two options - escalate (mailing list, stackoverflow) or improve your question
<apeiros>
and I'm with popl on this - you haven't really asked a question to begin with.
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<dreamr>
apeiros: the question is in the gist, copying code here isn't very useful - but here you go - "How do you further chain the to_log proc to accept a path"
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<apeiros>
there is no question in the gist either. and putting the code in the gist is OK. putting the question there is not.
<popl>
dreamr: de-couple your question from the code.
* e-manuel
Perfect sites to carry out THERMO-NUCLEAR tests: ROYAL PALACES
<e-manuel>
hi room
<dreamr>
if I put the path into the to_log directly, no sweat: do_print.(messages, to_log)
* e-manuel
FUCK ROYALS!
<popl>
e-manuel: please stop spamming
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<e-manuel>
popl, who's fucking "spamming"?
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<apeiros>
e-manuel: this is a ruby programming related channel. stick to the topic or go.
<e-manuel>
Go and THERMO-NUKE the queen. Come back later.
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<popl>
that was not ban/kick-worthy behavior?
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<apeiros>
if he'd continued, sure
<popl>
ok
<popl>
wow, #ruby has 6 ops
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<apeiros>
unless it's excessive spamming, there's always a warning first
<apeiros>
at least from me
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<popl>
apeiros: that's always good
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<popl>
apeiros: robustness principle :)
<apeiros>
well, it's also better. I might misunderstand something, or things might not be what they seem at first glance.
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<popl>
Yes. I think the robustness principle allows for that.
<popl>
Effectively, at least.
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<dreamr>
function in ruby is fun but definitely a mind switch
<dreamr>
later all
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<apeiros>
o0
<popl>
oh well
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<lamba>
im really new to both json and ruby, i have a line that looks like "json_obj = JSON.parse(myfile)" but it fails with a parse error, event when the json is copy pasted from known ok json files. the parse error is always "unexpected token". i'm guessing this is something obvious ;-/
<MrZYX>
lamba: put the full source and json into a gist
<lamba>
ok
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<shevy>
oh man
<shevy>
I need to stop breaking things
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<Lucsas3200>
Does anyone here have experience with Siriproxy on Raspberry pi?
<canton7>
looks like JSON.load can read from an IO? so File.open(filename){ |f| JSON.load(f) } is another option
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<samuelj>
Hey guys - does anyone know how to get an XMPP/Jabber display name of a user with Blather? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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<anoob>
i will parse a long string... how should i test without getting my tests dirties with long strings?
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<MrZYX>
use a fixture (that's just a file you read in your test)
<anoob>
MrZYX, thanks. Are there any resource talking about this practice?
<MrZYX>
I'm sure there is
<MrZYX>
I don't have any at hand though
<anoob>
no problem, thank you very much MrZYX
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<Kelet>
I'm looking for a database library for Ruby that is somewhat "idiomatic". What I mean is, I don't want to manually make queries and such. It's for a medium amount of data (say, 2,000,000-4,000,000 entries of about 10 columns each). For Java I used SQLJet to interface with SQLite.
<Kelet>
Sorry if my question is a bit vague, I don't usually use databases much
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<Kelet>
I was looking at leveldb-ruby and it looks good but it's in a key-value format which is a no go unless I'm missing something
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<fryguy>
Kelet: check out sequel
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<Jahgro>
Can I use a ruby 1.9 book and ruby 2.0 interpreter? Has too much changed in the new version?
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<apeiros>
Jahgro: no worries, that should work out just fine
<apeiros>
not too much has changed. mostly additions.
<MrZYX>
not too much no, the encoding fileback changing from ascii to unicode, keyword arguments and some methods returning arrays instead of enumerators are the biggest ones I guess
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<Jahgro>
Ok, thanks
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<Kelet>
fryguy, Thanks, this seems to be what I'm looking for
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