apeiros_ changed the topic of #ruby to: Ruby 2.2.0; 2.1.5; 2.0.0-p598; 1.9.3-p551: http://ruby-lang.org || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com || this channel is logged at http://irclog.whitequark.org, other public logging is prohibited
<zenspider> eam: http://www.zenspider.com/~ryan/library/books/ for other nerd (and cook) books
<zenspider> wish it did a better job of grouping by collections
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<Yzguy> maybe I'll do an erb template instead of markdown
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<patsourakos> http://i.imgur.com/NjHplmm.gifv [NSFW] thank you and sorry
<zenspider> Yzguy: you could do an erb template of markdown :)
<sevenseacat> patsourakos: wat
<Yzguy> totally not clicking that link
<sevenseacat> either
<zenspider> patsourakos: douche. you've done that before. you're not sorry. you're juvenile
<zenspider> fuckwit
<patsourakos> i put a warning...
<Yzguy> ooo markerb is markdown and erb
<waxjar> apeiros: ping
<zenspider> patsourakos: your mom must be so proud
<zenspider> I guess you could call down the hall and ask
<apeiros_> waxjar: what's up?
<sevenseacat> lol
<waxjar> apeiros: read up about 10 lines :/
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<waxjar> if you don't wanna click the link, it's definitely not suited for this channel
<sevenseacat> uh oh
<zenspider> hah
<zenspider> apeiros: you'd rather I have the honor? :D
<apeiros_> feel free
<apeiros_> I'm a bit busy
<zenspider> sure
<apeiros_> and IME he sometimes comes back a couple of minutes later
<Yzguy> wait no, thats not what I wanted
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<sevenseacat> o hello
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patsourakos was kicked from #ruby by zenspider [Kicked by zenspider]
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<GreatDanton> he was double kicked?
<zenspider> kicked, muted, then kicked
<zenspider> kicked, muted, tarred, feathered, then kicked
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<sevenseacat> awesome.
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<shevy> lol
<shevy> well two kicks hurt more than one alone, that's for sure
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<ReinH> sweet sweet justice
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* IceDragon waves to shevy
<IceDragon> :O
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<IceDragon> Huh, who got the foot twice?
<IceDragon> one for each cheek?
<IceDragon> or does the kicker practice Taekwondo :P
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<shevy> hey IceDragon
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<shevy> * apeiros_ has kicked patsourakos from #ruby
<shevy> * zenspider has kicked patsourakos from #ruby
<IceDragon> Ah, so it was a tag team effort
<IceDragon> What did he get kicked for?
<IceDragon> my backlog got cleared >:
<shevy> IceDragon one kicked like from the left, the other from the right. patsourakos went down
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<IceDragon> SO IT WAS TAEKWONDO
<shevy> IceDragon dunno. some link posting. thankfully I never click on these so I have no idea what it was about (and actually, would not even want to know either)
<IceDragon> lets keep it that way then ;x
<IceDragon> scary links are scary
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<IceDragon> ah, the glorious waiting period for travis to do its thing
<IceDragon> orz
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<Fire-Dragon-DoL> lol I needed to debug, while in console, a method of a badly written api
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> I replaced the method, thank god ruby exists
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<Fire-Dragon-DoL> and HI my dear nemesis
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> :P
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<eam> zenspider: fantastic, thank you
<zenspider> eam: you're very welcome
<zenspider> I gotta run. but feel free to PM me w/ q's on books
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<pawprint> i'd like to use a gem that requires ruby 1.9.1, even though i have ruby 2.1.5 installed
<pawprint> is that possible?
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<pawprint> can i install a private ruby version just for this gem while keeping my deafult ruby version as is?
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<leafybasil> pawprint: you can have multiple versions of ruby installed, but you can't have one project that uses multiple versions at the same time
<leafybasil> pawprint: you would need to run the whole project in 1.9.1
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<pawprint> that's ok
<pawprint> one ruby per project is fine
<leafybasil> pawprint: what OS are you using?
<pawprint> os x
<pawprint> but i may need to do this on linux at some point in the future too
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<leafybasil> Well I use rbenv, which lets me install and manage multiple versions of ruby
<leafybasil> pawprint: it's here https://github.com/sstephenson/rbenv
<leafybasil> pawprint: do you use homebrew?
<pawprint> i'm already using rvm
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<leafybasil> ah then you can just install 1.9.1
<leafybasil> and then in the project dir, i think do a `rvm use 1.9.1`
<pawprint> ah, i see
<pawprint> so that won't affect my default ruby in other directories?
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<leafybasil> pawprint: no 'use' should just update it for that directory
<leafybasil> i think `rvm default xyz` sets the global version
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<pawprint> nice
<pawprint> thank you so much!
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<leafybasil> pawprint: no problem :)
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<ponga> is bradland here?
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<basichash> anyone on?
<mozzarella> YES
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<basichash> mozzarella: how do I create a scaffold for a controller if the model is already created?
<basichash> with --skip-migration?
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<mozzarella> I don't know, I never use scaffolding
<mozzarella> and you might want to ask in #RubyOnRails instead
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<basichash> fixed
<basichash> thanks m8
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<blizzy> what would be the best way of changing a certain line in a csv file.
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<sevenseacat> open csv file, change line, save file, close file?
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<blizzy> thanks, sevenseacat.
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<basichash> how do I enable Rails.logger.debug?
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<pontiki> enable it? do you mean set the logging level to debug?
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<pontiki> in development/test, the level is already set to debug
<basichash> pontiki: yeah i've created a after_save method in my model, and then Rails.logger.debug "test" it, but it's not showing
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<pontiki> are you over in #rubyonrails?
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<ponga> shevy
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<mahtennek> hi quick question. i am building a registration mechanism with ruby and redis. i need a userid that increases after each registration. but I have no idea what is the best solution to it. currently i am using hsetnx to store and set my keyvalue. please advise where should userid be and autoincr without collisions
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<jidar> not sure that's much of a ruby issue
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<shevy> hey ponga - you coding anything?
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<shevy> interesting
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<mahtennek> jidar: right. incr but does that work with hsetnx. i was prob wondering if theres a algorithm to do it.
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<tejas-manohar> yo anyone here tried volt? http://voltframework.com/
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<shevy> not heard of that before, I think
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<shevy> "We use these "{{ }}" mustache looking things to run Ruby in your view."
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<shevy> lol
<shevy> a moustache?
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<ponga> hey shevy
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<shevy> IceDragon the Fire-Dragon was here
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* crome slaps xenomorph with a lettuce
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<brixen> apeiros: hah, interesting who you run into on Twitter replying to jcoglan's tweets :p
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<apeiros_> brixen: I ran into you? :)
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<apeiros_> hope I didn't run you over :-p
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<zkay11> How can I run a test against an external AngularJS app? I'm trying to write tests against grafana to see if it's rendering a dashboard properly, but I'm not sure how to go about it because rspec/capybara aren't able to see anything but the angularJS models etc in the source (eg, '<div ng-repeat='alert in dashAlerts.list' class="alert-{{alert.severity}} alert">')
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<hrrz> hey, i have an interesting problem. I want to transform spoken text of numbers (ONE TWO POINT FOUTRY SEVEN etc..) to digits. i.e: 12.47.
<hrrz> It is part of a voice recognition system
<hrrz> this becomes a little complicated to support all formats, for exmaple: TWO HUNDRED == 200 and not 2100 etc
<godd2> hrrz voice recognition is considered a "hard problem" in computer science
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<godd2> and generally requires solutions in machine learning and advanced algorithm study
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<hrrz> godd2:the voice recognition part is done
<zkay11> nm
<hrrz> but once i have the text extracted . I need to transform it into readable format. especially with numbers
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<apeiros_> hrrz: there was a ruby quiz once, not sure whether it was in both directions, but even if it was only from 212 -> two hundred and twelve, it should be helpful
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<ponga> is Jruby+Truffle THAT fast
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<hrrz> apeiros: yea there's a gem humanize that does that. But I am looking for the other way around
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<p8952> Is there a way to loop through an array in chunks? I want to get items in groups of 3.
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<apeiros_> p8952: see Enumerable#each_slice
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<p8952> apeiros, perfect. Thanks
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<ziyadb> Hey guys.
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<jhass> hi
<arup_r> how better can I write this constant assignment ? https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/64520cd3bacbb6ce762d I am getting warnings due to this? How to handle this?
<arup_r> jhass: Happy new year
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<jhass> arup_r: do a const_remove before the const_set
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<arup_r> jhass: But is not a smell?
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<jhass> probably, you can make those paramters and use the constants as default values for them
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<arup_r> didn't get you
<jhass> def foo(connection=CONNECTION)
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<shevy> jhass is back!
<shevy> that means the congress must be finished ;-)
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<jhass> it finished on 30th ;)
<ponga> oh
<shevy> jhass any memorable video you can remember?
<ponga> hi shevy
<ponga> did you call me
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<shevy> ponga but hours ago
<ponga> ok
<shevy> ponga are you coding something interesting finally?
<jhass> shevy: they showed citizen four
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<shevy> I am reading up on opal
<ponga> shevy: yes but its only in pseudo at the moment
<jhass> shevy: you don't really go to congress for the talks though ;)
<godd2> shevy opal is awesome!
<ponga> the thing is beyond my capacity
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<ponga> i read articles about Jruby+Truffle
<ponga> is it really that fast
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<ponga> im struggling to step beyond the theory
<ponga> :(
<godd2> ponga Chris Seaton also gave a talk at RubyConf this year on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-YVygbDHLE
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<ponga> godd2: already watched it
<ponga> as far as what i read/watch , Jruby+Truffle seems to be a future dream of fast ruby
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<arup_r> ponga: You name is really... :) hehehe what's your full name ? :)
<ponga> arup_r: im asian, my nick's got nothing to do with my name sir
<ponga> i just picked it up from no where
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<ponga> anyway, what would ponga really mean? :P i know panga is a fish
<ponga> but nothing more than that
<arup_r> ponga: I'm also Asian,,, But.... never heard the idea of ponga anywhere
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<ponga> arup_r: its more like i typed in random letters
<godd2> arup_r by that logic, I'm God
<ponga> just random letters
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<shevy> jhass thanks
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<arup_r> ponga: One festive is there in India - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_Pongal
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<arup_r> which is close to ur name
<arup_r> heheheheh
<shevy> hehe
<arup_r> godd2: Yes you are......... :)
<shevy> festive... always parties in india
<shevy> arup_r imagine if you were to live in a small country, how boring it would be!
<ponga> shevy im trying to break down natural language into more machine-friendly language
<ponga> and im making up this language
<rpag> shevy, isnt ww2 enough for a lifetime
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<ponga> so im sorry im still on theory stage
<chrisseaton> ponga: you can benchmark it for yourself - we only run a couple of gems at the moment, but we're implementing more of the library very quickly
<ponga> i did code a bit
<ponga> omg chrisseaton?
<ponga> i read all your blog articles
<shevy> rpag eh germany is huge man!
<chrisseaton> thanks - what would you like to see an article on next?
<arup_r> chrisseaton: link please.. I'd like to see also........
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<shevy> what is pranam
<ponga> chrisseaton: im a big noob in world of programming, im a linguist, anything is fine
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<ponga> im just really shocked that ruby performed that good
<shevy> wait until mruby is finished!!!
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<ponga> i hope when this Jruby+truffle is mature, ruby no longer needs to hear "its so slower than python haha"
<shevy> oh not python
<shevy> but "ruby is so much slower than javascript"
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<ponga> shevy why not python
<arup_r> chrisseaton: "what would you like to see an article on next?" --- I'm interested in Fiber... Never understood it and where to use it.. I don't have basics
<arup_r> ponga: Try something new
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<shevy> ponga because javascript will be more important
<ponga> ah hah
<arup_r> shevy: Gave the link of _pranam_
<shevy> oh yeah
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<shevy> chrisseaton Threads, mutex, fibers - I think these things can be super confusing to both newcomers and semi-experienced ruby guys
<ponga> this graph was totally unbelievable to me
<arup_r> shevy: +1
<ponga> good enough to compare to V8?
<shevy> threads are ok, I don't quite get mutex and fibers yet, but especially much so how thse three interplay
<shevy> *these
<arup_r> shevy: +1
<chrisseaton> we also have a JS using the same technology implementation that's competitive in terms of speed with V8
<chrisseaton> we're looking at things like programs written in both Ruby and JS working together
<shevy> yeah, it is mentioned often... see ponga, people will say "ruby is better than javascript but javascript is faster and available in every browser without a user having to do much in addition to that"
<ponga> chrisseaton: that just sounds like magic to me
<ponga> hey shevy
<ponga> http://benchmarksgame.alioth.debian.org/u64q/ruby.html i looked at this ruby vs python 3 and found something curious
<ponga> ruby seems to perform better in 64x than 86x
<ponga> why?
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<shevy> dunno... 64 bit can hold more operational power?
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<ponga> hmm
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<ponga> oh no sorry my question was bad
<ponga> shevy:
<ponga> what i found weird is that in 64x bench , ruby seems to perform better than python
<ponga> at least in that benchmark website
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<ponga> in x86 ruby is slower but faster in x64
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<shevy> yeah ruby is quite fast
<shevy> compared to past results
<shevy> where python was faster than 1.8.x
<ponga> ok
<ponga> will i ever understand programming
<ponga> im just a linguist, and self taught code noob
<ponga> :(..
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<ponga> anyway chrisseaton i really love ruby and am a person who's trying to do some NLP in ruby and looking forward to see that fast combination
<ponga> admire you
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<sandelius> I've been working with Ruby for many years now and I still get a smile on my face when I read Ruby code :) What a great life :D
<chrisseaton> ponga: if you have any open source research projects I could take a look at for benchmarks, that would be cool
<ponga> my first language was java and it wasn't pleasant at all
<ponga> im very happy when writing in ruby
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<ponga> chrisseaton: no sorry im really really noob in this field you know.. i come from linguistics/philosophy degree, im also self taught to write code
<ponga> haha im still learning
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<ponga> one day i was trying to do array.push(array.shift) , didn't know that i could do it this way, so i wrote down this
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<shevy> ponga I guess java is ok if you can live with is verbosity
<ponga> see? im big noob lol
<shevy> array << array.shift should work too or?
<ponga> shevy: did you see this? i didn't know i could array.push(array.shift)
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<shevy> well you invoke two methods there
<shevy> the element that gets returned by array.shift
<shevy> and you pass it as argument to array.push method
<ponga> so that if statement is what i originally did
<shevy> << is also a method invocation by the way
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<ponga> and some guy in ##ruby told me that i can simply push shift
<ponga> :P
<shevy> oh yeah that was good
<shevy> if you could eliminate an if-condition then that is often really great
<ponga> that if statement came out terribly slower
<ponga> lol
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<ponga> and shevy i really really hate verbosity
<ponga> i had to write many many lines to simply "gets"
<ponga> in java i mean
<shevy> in ruby it is just gets!
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<shevy> that's pretty short
<shevy> you could also write $stdin.gets
<ponga> yeah and more readable
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<ponga> shevy:well i was kinda proud that my if method was not twice as slower
<ponga> lol
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<ponga> oh and shevy i liked the concept that everything is object
<ponga> it makes me very happy
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<shevy> hehe
<godd2> ponga then you may also like Lisp, where everything is a list
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<shevy> but (there (are (drawbacks (in (lisp (ponga
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<ponga> will i like lisp? i like lambda in ruby
<shevy> dunno
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<shevy> many like it
<shevy> I did not like the ((((
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<ponga> uh oh
<ponga> i looked at it
<ponga> i don't like brackets either
<ponga> :(
<ponga> niether the semicolon
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<ponga> shevy: in ruby i have both proc /lambda to choose from, will i get something similar in python
<MrSparkle> then do and end are your friend
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<ponga> yeah i always do end over {}
<ponga> love do and end
<ponga> much more readable to me
<MrSparkle> love doing
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<MrSparkle> I'll use the {} if I really want a single line of code etc
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<MrSparkle> hashes can be weird without em though
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<ponga> many reasons i still stick to ruby even tho im doing natural language processing
<shevy> ponga no real idea how python handles procs
<shevy> python uses strange things
<shevy> like decorators
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<ponga> what? you decorate?
* ponga is confused
<shevy> in python
<shevy> @foo
<shevy> def bla():
<ponga> i'd stick to ruby
<shevy> I forgot what it does; I knew what it did about 2 years ago hehehe
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<ponga> what im trying to do has not much to do with which language and performance
<ponga> it's ok to be slower
<MrSparkle> just look at android!
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<ponga> sorry MrSparkle i don't quite get your joke
<ponga> haven't they dumped dalvik yet
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<ponga> shevy: but i think the reason i chose ruby over python was that i couldn't n.times do your code end in python
<ponga> :P
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<ponga> that seemed very huge to me back then..
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<shevy> ponga for me it was the matz interview, the philosophy of ruby
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<MrSparkle> hash = {} vs hash = Hash.new
<MrSparkle> is this hottly debated amongst nerds
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<MrSparkle> how do you even define a default value without Hash.new
<ponga> MrSparkle: aren't those two for different usages anyway?
<ponga> i find {} more convinent in some cases over .new and vice-versa
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<ponga> shevy:
<ponga> what's easiest way to do single key, multiple value dictionary in ruby
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<waxjar> let the value be an Array?
<godd2> ponga probably to have a hash whose values are arrays
<ponga> ah hah!
<ponga> thanks
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<MrSparkle> hasher = {0}/hop
<MrSparkle> errrrrrr
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<havenwood> ponga: Hash.new { |hash, key| hash[key] = [] }
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<ponga> hi havenwood
<havenwood> ponga: hiya
<ponga> long time no see
<havenwood> through the ages
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<havenwood> ponga: if you use that ^ as your Hash, you can just shovel onto it
<MrSparkle> and then I figure it out after that derp
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<havenwood> >> @hash = Hash.new { |hash, key| hash[key] = [] }; @hash[:cats] << 'Mr. Fluffles' << 'Dr. Meow'; @hash
<eval-in__> havenwood => {:cats=>["Mr. Fluffles", "Dr. Meow"]} (https://eval.in/239300)
<apeiros_> MrSparkle: not debated, no. if {} or [] or "" is sufficient, you use the literals.
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<godd2> Of course, don't forget Array()
<godd2> >> Array(nil)
<eval-in__> godd2 => [] (https://eval.in/239301)
<ponga> thanks havenwood
* apeiros_ has yet to see a proper use of Array()
<ponga> that would work smooth
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<waxjar> those methods always confuse me, wish they weren't there
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<havenwood> apeiros_: undef Array
<havenwood> i guess that's not proper either ;P
<apeiros_> I wish
<ponga> i think it was you havenwood who told me to use array.shift(array.push)
<cats> funny how I always get pinged here, while I never get pinged on any other channels for programming languages :P
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<apeiros_> ponga: aren't you confusing shift and push there?
<crome> ::[] on Hash is the one I just can't get used to seeing
<havenwood> cats: i have lots of cats in my code, just happens
<godd2> dont look at me, I always use dogs for my examples
<havenwood> cats: cats and ruby overlap
<cats> lol
<ponga> apeiros_: yeah lol i am
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<apeiros_> crome: lucky you, that 2.1+ have #to_h
<shevy> MrSparkle you can still use .default= of course lateron; {} should be a bit faster than Hash.new, and much shorter in characters
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<ponga> what the hell.. to_hash?
<shevy> I think just to_h
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<ponga> when would someone ever want to to_h
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<waxjar> >> [:hi, "ponga"].to_h
<eval-in__> waxjar => wrong element type Symbol at 0 (expected array) (TypeError) ... (https://eval.in/239302)
<havenwood> ponga: I didn't say?: a.rotate!
<waxjar> >> [[:hi, "ponga"]].to_h
<eval-in__> waxjar => {:hi=>"ponga"} (https://eval.in/239303)
<waxjar> that's the one
<havenwood> <3 to_h
<ponga> oh
<ponga> interesting
<waxjar> it's especially handy if you do ary.zip(other_ary).to_h
<ponga> interesting indeed
<apeiros_> or somethingsomething.map { … }.to_h
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<ponga> im looking at #zip for array in doc
<ponga> can't understand it at all
<ponga> what does array.zip do
<shevy> yeah it is not easy to understand
<shevy> an example is best ponga
<ponga> i think i should use .zip myself several times
<ponga> then it'd help me understand
<shevy> ["a","b","c","d"].zip ["1","2"] # => [["a", "1"], ["b", "2"], ["c", nil], ["d", nil]]
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<shevy> you see, two arrays were zipped together
<shevy> nil values were added when the second array was too short
<crome> just like when you put on your coat!
<ponga> ah..
<godd2> ponga think of a zipper like on your clothes. a zipper lines up each little tooth of the other side of the zipper
<shevy> crome I always have to think of UNZIPPING MY PANTS there
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<crome> tmi
<shevy> ponga yeah zipper, but remember it - the ruby .zip means to zip and close it, not to open your pants!
<shevy> but I don't think .zip is oftenly used
<shevy> because how often do you have two arrays that must be zipped?
<shevy> and besides, isn't that like a use case for a Hash?
<ponga> agreed
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<shevy> though you can convert it into a hash too of course
<ponga> i'd love to use #unshift
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<shevy> Hash[*[["a", "1"], ["b", "2"], ["c", nil], ["d", nil]].flatten] # => {"a"=>"1", "b"=>"2", "c"=>nil, "d"=>nil}
<shevy> now it is a hash
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<crome> since I see it quite oftenly, I feel like making a remark on it. there is no such word
<shevy> I am sure you have weird codebases!
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<waxjar> the * and flatten aren't necessary shevy
<ponga> what's * doing anyway
<ponga> :(
<godd2> >> ["do","a",1].zip(["re","b",2],["mi","c",3]) << ["baby you and me"]
<eval-in__> godd2 => [["do", "re", "mi"], ["a", "b", "c"], [1, 2, 3], ["baby you and me"]] (https://eval.in/239304)
<lampd1> what about #map ?
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<crome> ponga: it is called the "splat" operator. it tells ruby to treat an array as a list of arguments, rather than one object
<godd2> >> [*1..5]
<eval-in__> godd2 => [1, 2, 3, 4, 5] (https://eval.in/239305)
<crome> but dependong on the context it doens a bunch of other things as well...
<ponga> >> [1..5]
<eval-in__> ponga => [1..5] (https://eval.in/239306)
<lampd1> >> [1..5]
<eval-in__> lampd1 => [1..5] (https://eval.in/239307)
<ponga> ah hah
<waxjar> it calls #to_a / #to_ary (i always forget) under the hood, to get an array
<lampd1> :P
<shevy> waxjar cool
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<ponga> i need soda
<shevy> truthfully I did not even look at it, I just typed in irb until the outcome was ok, then I copy pasted into the channel :)
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<godd2> >> [*1..5, 6, 7, *"a".."e"]
<eval-in__> godd2 => [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, "a", "b", "c", "d", "e"] (https://eval.in/239308)
<lampd1> >> Array(1..5)
<eval-in__> lampd1 => [1, 2, 3, 4, 5] (https://eval.in/239309)
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<ponga> Array(*1..5)
<ponga> >> Array(*1..5)
<eval-in__> ponga => wrong number of arguments (5 for 1) (ArgumentError) ... (https://eval.in/239310)
<ponga> ah hah
<lampd1> >> a = Array.new; a << [1..5];a
<eval-in__> lampd1 => [[1..5]] (https://eval.in/239311)
<ponga> :)
<lampd1> >> a = Array.new; a << 1..5;a
<eval-in__> lampd1 => [1] (https://eval.in/239312)
<sandelius> is there any one using sinatra for a large app?
<waxjar> let's all start up our irb / pry / ripl to do experiments :)
<lampd1> haha 2 lazy atm
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<lampd1> you guys ever check out omniref?
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<waxjar> i boycot them. they filtered all e-mail addresses from the gemspecs on rubygems, then send out emails asking if i'd like to claim my projects or something
<waxjar> aka promoting their website
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<lampd1> >> a = [*1..5];a.flatten_splat!
<eval-in__> lampd1 => undefined method `flatten_splat!' for [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]:Array (NoMethodError) ... (https://eval.in/239313)
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<lampd1> i just like their layout waxjar
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<lampd1> much more readable than ruby-doc
<waxjar> i've been using devdocs the last few weeks
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<havenwood> sandelius: sure, there are. why do you ask?
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<godd2> sandelius when you say large, do you mean lots of users or lots of features?
<havenwood> 10,000 routes
<sandelius> havenwood I'm considering taking a modular sinatra approach on our next inhouse SaaS application. It's mostly just an API serving JSOn with a few exceptions. It's a CMS
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<sandelius> We've been using Rails for most stuff before.
<havenwood> sandelius: There was a RubyRogues episode discussing making modular Sinatra/Padrino apps a while back, if you haven't listened to it yet: http://devchat.tv/ruby-rogues/170-rr-padrino-with-dario-cravero-nathan-esquenazi-arthur-chiu
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<sandelius> havenwood yeah I have. That's actuallt when I started to think about it.
<havenwood> sandelius: Lotus and Roda are other very nice looking tools to consider.
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<waxjar> there's a nice talk on roda on confreaks
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<havenwood> Roda actually can handle 10k routes, doesn't choke on mass-regexping like the others. :)
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<havenwood> there's a #roda channel as well
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<cjm_> Hi Folks, I'm trying to get a Ruby on Rails application running with nearly zero Ruby on Rails experience. Needless to say, it is not without its challenges. I have done "gem install rake", which gave me 10.4.2, but the command "rake time:zones:local" fails with ...
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<cjm_> You have already activated rake 10.4.2, but your Gemfile requires rake 10.3.2.
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<cjm_> Can anybody advise me?
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<sandelius> cjm_ bundle exec rake time:zones:local
<jhass> cjm_: is that the full message? iirc the solution is in it
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<sniperh4x0r> should i stick with ruby 2.1?
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<sniperh4x0r> i got this version a while ago but they have 2.2 now
<sniperh4x0r> any major difference?
<cjm_> sandelius, jhass It is a summary of the message. I also tried "bundle exec rake time:zones:local" and it also failed. I see now that it is telling me something different: "LoadError: cannot load such file -- mysql2/mysql2"
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<sandelius> sniperh4x0r symbol GC
<sniperh4x0r> what
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<jhass> cjm_: try ensuring gem 'mysql2' is in your Gemfile. Run bundle install again if you had to add it
<sniperh4x0r> that's what they added/
<sniperh4x0r> is it worth upgrading?
<lampd1> waxjar++ devdocs is dope
<havenwood> sniperh4x0r: Here're a list of notable changes: https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/news/2014/12/25/ruby-2-2-0-released/
<havenwood> sniperh4x0r: Always use latest stable.
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<sandelius> sniperh4x0r Ahh you mean breaking changes?
<cjm_> jhass, O.K., stand by....
<havenwood> sniperh4x0r: Question is, 2.2.0 or 2.3.0-dev? :P
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<cjm_> jhass, "gem install mysql2"... Success. "bundle exec rake time:zones:local" same failure. "bundle install --without development test" produces about 50 lines of output, among "Using mysql2 0.3.16" Any advice?
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<jhass> cjm_: sounds like the native extension wasn't compiled fro some strange reason
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<jhass> cjm_: what does bundle show mysql2 give?
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<cjm_> jhass, "bundle show mysql2" ==> /usr/local/share/gems/gems/mysql2-0.3.16
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<jhass> try sudo gem pristine mysql2 -v 0.3.16 --extensions
<cjm_> jhass, Stand by...
<jhass> no! :P
<cjm_> jhass, Same problem... "LoadError: cannot load such file -- mysql2/mysql2"
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<jhass> what was the output of the last command I gave?
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<rag1ngGerba1> can someone explain why when using regex in ruby you need to use #$1 instead of $1. i understand that normally it would just be $1 printed in a string for example but, doesnt # normally start a comment
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<jhass> make a gist if it's > 3 lines
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<jhass> rag1ngGerba1: this is not specific to regex, it's specific to string interpolation
<cjm_> jhass, gem pristine mysql2 -v 0.3.16 --extensions
<cjm_> Restoring gems to pristine condition...
<cjm_> Building native extensions with: ''
<cjm_> This could take a while...
<cjm_> Restored mysql2-0.3.16
<waxjar> rag1ngGerba1: #$1 is short for #{$1}, it's just string interpolation
<rag1ngGerba1> ahh ok thanks man
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<jhass> cjm_: so does /usr/local/share/gems/gems/mysql2-0.3.16/lib/mysql2/mysql2.so exist?
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<cjm_> jhass, "/usr/local/share/gems/gems/mysql2-0.3.16/lib/mysql2/mysql2.so" does not exist, but the directory does.
<jhass> so something seems to skip compilation of the native extension on your system
<jhass> you need to investigate why is that
<jhass> as I've never seen that before, I can't help you in doing so
<jhass> "Building native extensions with: ''" seems strange, so that might be a starting point
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<cjm_> jhass, Thanks very much for the help you've given me. I have nearly zero experience with Ruby, so it is going to take me *forever* sort this out.
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<jhass> I suspect it's less of a Ruby issue but more of a $distro or $build_system issue
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<jhass> cjm_: well, there's not much to make sense out of it
<jhass> you try the suggested solution, it either works or it doesn't
<jhass> note that 0.3.16 is not the most recent version
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<jhass> 0.3.17 is, so you might want a -v 0.3.16 to the commands
<cjm_> rvm is unrecognized. "bash: rvm: command not found"
<jhass> or update your bundle
<jhass> then you don't use rvm
<jhass> which usually means you can just skip it
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<cjm_> jhass, gem uninstall mysql2 Success. "bundle exec rake time:zones:local" => "Could not find mysql2-0.3.16 in any of the sources" -- which is to be expected. "Run 'bundle install' to install missing gems"
<jhass> "uninstall" explain me that term
<cjm_> Apparently, I will get 0.3.17, but everybody seesm to want 0.3.16. How to I tell this to 'bundle install'?
<jhass> "this"?
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<jhass> I have the feeling you didn't read everything I wrote
<cjm_> jhass, "this" : Please use version .0.3.16, instead of the version 0.3.17 you are giving me."
<jhass> I can't follow
<cjm_> Oh! Sorry...
<crome> :D
<cjm_> I see what you mean. I hadn't read it.
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<jhass> also I have the feeling you blindly execute commands without trying to understand what they do
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<cjm_> jhass, Not blindly, but I have quite limited understanding of how Ruby on Rails works and where everything is. So, there is a greate deal of faith that you are telling me the truth.
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<jhass> I mean you can get quite far with applying english
<jhass> read them out loud, it's quite revealing
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<cjm_> jhass, I believe I have version 0.3.16 installed. I tried "gem list mysql2" and I see: mysql2 (0.3.16, 0.3.13), which make me think there are two versions there? I have no idea what this means.
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<jhass> yes that means it
<jhass> I think the link you found is worth trying
<jhass> I think you didn't fully try it
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<cjm_> I tried two instructions: gem uninstall mysql2
<cjm_> gem install mysql2 --platform=ruby
<cjm_> jhass, Is there more to it?
<jhass> 21:45 <jhass> note that 0.3.16 is not the most recent version
<jhass> 21:46 <jhass> 0.3.17 is, so you might want a -v 0.3.16 to the commands
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<havenwood> or: bundle update mysql2
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<jhass> also I'm still unclear with what permissions you run what, so maybe you're actually utilizing different $GEM_HOME's
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<cjm_> jhass, I've read and completed those instructions. $GEM_HOME is unset, and Gemfile is in .
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<jhass> The default for it might be different depending on a /etc/gemrc ~/.gemrc and the user you run it under
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<cjm_> jhass, I have no .gemrc anywhere on the system, and I know that if I cd someplce else, I get "Can't fine gemfile".
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<cjm_> Is there a way to uninstall the bundle and start over?
<jhass> not really if you installed it to the system
<cjm_> There were no errors, but apparently I messed something.
<cjm_> How about re-install?
<jhass> and in my experience starting over doesn't help, because the issue is in the system or the mistake will be repeated
<jhass> maybe something strange in the gem install output you neglected
<jhass> there's still the strange with: '' in the pristine output (which is basically a reinstall)
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<cjm_> jhass, I find: /usr/local/share/gems/gems/mysql2-0.3.17/ext/mysql2/mysql2.so It this correct? Should it exist "/usr/local/share/gems/gems/mysql2-0.3.16/lib/mysql2/"
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<jhass> I'm actually not sure
<cjm_> jhass, Yeah,... me, too.
<jhass> I got it in both places
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<jhass> what's your rubygems version?: gem --version
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<reactormonk> Why does File.open("~/test", "w").write("foo") fail with No such file or directory @ rb_sysopen ?
<jhass> because File.open doesn't do path expansions
<jhass> also don't do that, use the block form of File.open or the helper method File.write
<reactormonk> just faster to write that example in here
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<jhass> File.write is even shorter
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<TrOuBleStArTeR> hi all
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<TrOuBleStArTeR> searching for someone to help me
<TrOuBleStArTeR> il a few commands
<TrOuBleStArTeR> in a few commands
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<TrOuBleStArTeR> i'm actually learning ruby to adapt/rewrite some code for metasploit ( for vulerability test purpose )
<TrOuBleStArTeR> i need some help on a C code
<TrOuBleStArTeR> to rewrite in ruby
<TrOuBleStArTeR> it's about FTP session
<crome> I like the euphemism "vulnerability test"
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<TrOuBleStArTeR> crome no euphemism
<TrOuBleStArTeR> i'm in IT actually
<TrOuBleStArTeR> it's my job
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<TrOuBleStArTeR> i do vulerability test
<TrOuBleStArTeR> but to learn ruby and adapt code in this framework
<TrOuBleStArTeR> i'm trying to rewrite some code
<TrOuBleStArTeR> a very simple exploit actually
<TrOuBleStArTeR> but well, because i'm learning ruby, not very easy to write it at the moment
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<jhass> go to #metasploit
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<TrOuBleStArTeR> jhass i'm already in
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<TrOuBleStArTeR> jhass but actually i've takl with personn that use the framework, but not develop for it
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<TrOuBleStArTeR> but developp for etasploit is not like developp in ruby for noob
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<TrOuBleStArTeR> it's a framework, and before understand write ruby for this framework, i'm learning ruby core commands :)
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<TrOuBleStArTeR> i've just a STAT command in FTP
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<TrOuBleStArTeR> to write
<TrOuBleStArTeR> but in the original C code
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<TrOuBleStArTeR> snprintf(buffer,4096,"STAT {{*},{{*},{{*},{{*},{{*},{{*},
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<TrOuBleStArTeR> just wondering how to have a STAT command in ruby and send this kind of thing
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<apeiros_> buffer << "STAT {…"
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<TrOuBleStArTeR> il's like a puts but in a buffer if i understand
<TrOuBleStArTeR> il's like a "puts" but in a buffer if i understand
<apeiros_> maybe you should learn C before you try to translate C to ruby?
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<TrOuBleStArTeR> apeiros lot's of work ...
<apeiros_> yes
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<crome> haha
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<TrOuBleStArTeR> apeiros actually i'm trying to rewrite because the C code is not very hard to understand
<TrOuBleStArTeR> my goal is to :
<TrOuBleStArTeR> learn ruby
<TrOuBleStArTeR> and direct rite to ruby the code next time
<TrOuBleStArTeR> and direct write to ruby the code next time
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<TrOuBleStArTeR> in fact
<TrOuBleStArTeR> metapsloit framework have already exploits
<TrOuBleStArTeR> but not all
<TrOuBleStArTeR> because i would like to implement this vulerabilty in the framework
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<TrOuBleStArTeR> ( but not implemente actually ) because this vulnerability don't interest actuall developers
<TrOuBleStArTeR> so i try it myself
<TrOuBleStArTeR> apeiros it would be great to learn C but lot's of work
<TrOuBleStArTeR> i used to develop in VB 6
<TrOuBleStArTeR> lol
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<TrOuBleStArTeR> develop = code ( sorry for bas english )
<TrOuBleStArTeR> develop = code ( sorry for bad english )
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<TrOuBleStArTeR> i atually work in IT systems and network
<TrOuBleStArTeR> also in security sometime
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<TrOuBleStArTeR> apeiros with your exemple "buffer << "STAT {…"
<TrOuBleStArTeR> what's "…"
<TrOuBleStArTeR> oh ". . ."
<TrOuBleStArTeR> i will have a look at it
<apeiros_> the stuff you left out.
<apeiros_> since your C code is obviously incomplete, I saw no reason to completely reproduce it either.
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<TrOuBleStArTeR> apeiros i can let you an url of this code. just a dos. not a real hack stuff
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<apeiros_> and what should I do with that?
<TrOuBleStArTeR> not very useful to script kiddies
<apeiros_> I'm not interested in translating your C code for you.
<TrOuBleStArTeR> apeiros i'm not asking you so
<TrOuBleStArTeR> apeiros it's just to help my knwoledge in ruby, that's all
<TrOuBleStArTeR> you just tell me that the C code was obviously incomplete
<TrOuBleStArTeR> i understand that you said : i can't help more, because you just copy/paste me an incomplete code
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<TrOuBleStArTeR> but don't want to let you loose your time if yon d'ont want help me
<apeiros_> that's not what I said.
<apeiros_> I help. but I don't do your work.
<TrOuBleStArTeR> i've not understood well sorry
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<TrOuBleStArTeR> [11:31] <apeiros_> since your C code is obviously incomplete, I saw no reason to completely reproduce it either.
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<apeiros_> do you have a question?
<TrOuBleStArTeR> buffer depends on stringio library ?
<apeiros_> you can use a StringIO to implement a buffer. you can also just use a String.
<TrOuBleStArTeR> with a string, you've got an exemple ?
<TrOuBleStArTeR> but maybe you will tell me it's better to use stringio
<apeiros_> *example
<TrOuBleStArTeR> yes sorry
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<apeiros_> I just showed you how you concatenate strings in ruby.
<TrOuBleStArTeR> yes ok, that's was the example so
<TrOuBleStArTeR> thx
<apeiros_> and to be frank, that's a quite basic thing. you can learn those things easily yourself using resources on the net.
<TrOuBleStArTeR> im' ok, i'm starting maybe from much far as i think :)
<TrOuBleStArTeR> but i will investigate
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<TrOuBleStArTeR> thx
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<Yzguy> hello gain!
<TrOuBleStArTeR> hi Yzguy
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<Yzguy> anyone know of a ruby equivalent of pythons csv.DictReadeR?
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<jhass> Yzguy: csv stdlib?
<Yzguy> well I'm trying to take the first row of the csv and those will be the hash keys
<jhass> csv stdlib does support that
<Yzguy> oo
<Yzguy> I'm new to ruby, trying to rewrite something I wrote in python as learning thing
<jhass> see the :headers option
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<Yzguy> that works! thanks
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<shevy> Yzguy is learning super fast
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<kl> what does it mean when you do self.class.some_method_name ?
<kl> how does that differ to self.some_method_name ?
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<shevy> you call the class
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<shevy> class Foo
<shevy> self.class.bla -> Foo.bla()
<kl> What's self.bla then? :/
<shevy> a class method
<ddd> the self.class.foo calls the class. self.foo calls foo on whatever is occupying self atm
<shevy> look here kl
<shevy> >> class Foo; def self.bla; puts 'hi from bla'; end; end; Foo.bla
<eval-in__> shevy => hi from bla ... (https://eval.in/239318)
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<shevy> it can be more readable
<shevy> for instance:
<shevy> User.login()
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<ddd> shevy: thats right right? self.class.foo calls foo on the *class* itself (which is also an object). self.foo calls foo on the object currently occupying self. could be any object, not necessarily one of type class
<shevy> yeah
<shevy> kl read ddd's explanation ^^^
<shevy> kl you can have methods for your object (instantiated from a class), or from the class object itself; you can also define @instance_variables for both though instance variables are much more common for the objects derived through className.new
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<shevy> kl if it helps you, the moment you ask yourself in which "self" you are in, is the moment where it should be super simple
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<ddd> hmm that one confused me
<kl> yeah i'm confused
<Yzguy> grr
<ddd> how would it be simple? (and how would you find out? calling self.class at that stage would only tell you what class that object was derived *from*, not which self it actually was.
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<ddd> )