<weaksauce>
ebonics what's hard to understand about that model? that's actually quite common
<ebonics>
weaksauce, i mean i was asking if that was their model
<ebonics>
it's not very clear
<weaksauce>
yes, it is opensource and also hosted for money
<weaksauce>
just like wordpress.
<baweaver>
apeiros: See above, that should work for generics, though it could probably be more accurately compacted.
<apeiros>
baweaver: 288 distinct nicks from freenode webinterface
<baweaver>
fair enough then
* baweaver
hangs up hat on the matter
<apeiros>
that's since 2015-04-04
<apeiros>
now I'd have to figure how many of those got banned
<atmosx>
night all
<baweaver>
'night
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<miah>
would be interesting data
<baweaver>
I can only find a Ban class, not sure about a list
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<apeiros>
miah: you can have access to it if you want
<baweaver>
and it looks like you can just grab the username mask and cross-reference it with ban masks
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<apeiros>
baweaver: ok, so 13 distinct banmasks containing web/freenode vs. 288 distinct nicks using web/freenode. I don't think it's a correct way to compare, but at least it gives a bit of insight.
<baweaver>
indeed.
<apeiros>
but getting the other bans cross-referenced with host-names used at that time is quite a lot of effort.
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<nahtnam>
Hey! I have an mp3 file that I want users to be able to download. I was wondering how I can make it so that when people go to /download (sinatra), it starts the download.
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<shevy>
I assume you just define an action called "/download"
<shevy>
get '/download' do
<nahtnam>
shevy: Yeah, I have it defined, but im not sure how I can make the browser download the file
<nahtnam>
Would I use send_data
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<nahtnam>
Oh shoot. I forgot to mention something
<nahtnam>
One sec while I type it out
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<nahtnam>
I want my sinatra app to act as a "middle man" for files. Basically I want it so that when they go to "/download", it streams data from a different url if that makes sense.
<pontiki>
are you asking that question because you don't detect the sarcasm?
<Aeyrix>
You could make a mean margaritas with all that salt. ;)
<pontiki>
indeed
<Aeyrix>
I like Sinatra.
<Aeyrix>
I'm gonna give Lotus a shot for my latest project.
<shevy>
Aeyrix is always in a good mood
<pontiki>
i wish i had some more time to play with lotus
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<navs_>
nahtam you're gonna download it just maybe not explicitly
<Aeyrix>
Last time I played with it, it wasn't a full framework yet.
<miah>
lotus looks interesting too
<navs_>
does ruby have a way to get a filehandle from a uri maybe
<navs_>
you can pass that to send_file
<miah>
but ya, thats what i heard too; not quite complete
<navs_>
instead of the uri directly
<pontiki>
Aeyrix: is it ready for prime time now?
<navs_>
would make more sense
<Aeyrix>
pontiki: Allegedly!
<Aeyrix>
Guess we'll find out.
<pontiki>
cool! let us (or at least me) know how it goes? when i first saw it, i was intrigued
<pontiki>
i may have to quit work so i can play with more stuff
<navs_>
found some guy on the internets doing a send_file open('uri')...
<navs_>
try that
<navs_>
makes more sense than what you're doing
<navs_>
and i dont even know ruby so that says something
<nahtnam>
So basically the situation im in is that I have an api key to a site with a bunch of free credit. I want to let people to download files from the site (which I pay for) but I dont want to release the api key. Therefor I need the download url to be masked
<nahtnam>
(My api key is in the download url)
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<navs_>
you're proxying
<navs_>
you're gonna dl the file to your host and serve it
<navs_>
try the open(..) thing
<navs_>
itll prob work
<nahtnam>
navs_: Open thing?
<pontiki>
you might want to use a stream in this case of proxying than the send_file. it might work ok for small unchunked things, but large files like mp3s and such might not
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<nahtnam>
pontiki: Some of the files are mp3s so....
<navs_>
nahtnam yea opening()'ing to get an actual file like object
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<navs_>
not just passing a remote resource
<navs_>
and expecting it to work
<pontiki>
Kernel#open can be extended to read URLs with the open-uri stdlib
<navs_>
or listen to this guy
<nahtnam>
But wont that download the file?
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<navs_>
yes
<navs_>
you have to download the file
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<nahtnam>
I dont want to download the file
<Aeyrix>
Absolutely disgusting.
<navs_>
ok
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<navs_>
i dont want to pay my rent
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<navs_>
but turns out theres reality
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<pontiki>
then there's squatting
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<Aeyrix>
Yeah I'm trying to think.
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<Aeyrix>
Tbh you don't have much choice without downloading the file mate.
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<nahtnam_>
For some reason irccloud stopped working
<Aeyrix>
Unless you set up a reverse proxy.
<navs_>
he has to download the file, the remote host wont serve it up w/out his api key and he doesnt want to give it up
<Aeyrix>
That'll be because it's garbage
<nahtnam_>
I would appreciate it if someone pastes the previous messages
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<pontiki>
!logs
<pontiki>
!log
<pontiki>
dammit
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<nahtnam_>
Got it
<Aeyrix>
?logs
<ruboto>
I don't know anything about logs
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<Aeyrix>
?log
<ruboto>
I don't know anything about log
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<Aeyrix>
Listen ruboto
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<Aeyrix>
You're pushing your luck
<navs_>
nahtnam_: summary was you have to download the file
<navs_>
you dont need to persist it on disk or anything
<pontiki>
i thought helpa would know
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<nahtnam_>
navs_: Oh ok. There is no way around this?
<navs_>
not for your use case
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<navs_>
the remote host wont serve the file up w/out your api key right
<navs_>
and you never want the client to have it
<nahtnam_>
navs_: What if I want to use something like <audio> or <video> tags and stream it. Would it be possible then?
<nahtnam_>
I could limit it to mp3s and mp4s
<navs_>
from the remote host?
<navs_>
to the client
<pontiki>
this is why you want to look at streaming in sinatra
<navs_>
that requires your api key
<nahtnam_>
navs_: through my proxy
<pontiki>
and that's the last i'll offer that
<nahtnam_>
pontiki: You mentioned something about streaming. Will that work for mp3s and mp4s
<pontiki>
why would it care about the content of the data?
<nahtnam_>
pontiki: ?
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<navs_>
we hold these truths to be self evident
<nahtnam_>
I just dont want to release my api key. Thats all that matters
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<Aeyrix>
I feel like you're breaking the provider's terms of use here.
<pontiki>
streaming doesn't care what you're sending through it. why should it care whether it's an mp3, mp4, the entire google catalog, or an endless stream of random bits?
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<nahtnam_>
pontiki: Can you link me to the sinatra or rails docs for streaming?
<shevy>
# Documentation: William Webber (william@williamwebber.com)
<shevy>
hehehe
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<shevy>
wow
<shevy>
this is old code...
<shevy>
class Session
<shevy>
def Session::callback(dbman)
<shevy>
that is quite atypical right? these days, we'd use self.callback or?
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<pontiki>
self.callback is current idiom
<pontiki>
but Session::callback is also correct
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<eam>
am I alone in thinking naming the class is more readable?
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<pontiki>
i wouldn't say it's more readable
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<pontiki>
but i think that's pretty subjective, too
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<pontiki>
if the intent is to make it a clearer distinction that a method is a class method, there could probably a clearer way of saying that directly
<pontiki>
is there a class_function method like the module_function method?
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<shevy>
class CGI; $CGI_ENV = ENV
<shevy>
this code scares me
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<shevy>
pontiki hmm don't think there is
<shevy>
can you use module_function in a class there?
<pontiki>
that would be even more confusing, i think
<pontiki>
"why does this class have a module function?!!"
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<pontiki>
i'm not advocating for anything
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<pontiki>
for me, self and Class:: are clear enough
<Tux_007__>
i live in dallas where ruby developers are in demand
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<Ox0dea>
nubyruby: Your intuition is operationally correct, but realize that you can destructure the "hash" in all sorts of ways by varying the method signature.
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<nubyruby>
Ox0dea, understood, thanks. I made a param tester method to verify.
<Ox0dea>
nubyruby: Do you know about required arguments and **kwargs?
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<nubyruby>
Ox0dea, I know about required args. Is the 2nd item also called a splat?
<nubyruby>
I'm familiar with splats, though iirc those were * rather than **
<Ox0dea>
Right, "**" only consumes the "keyword: arguments".
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<nubyruby>
Ox0dea, didn't follow you on that one.
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<Ox0dea>
nubyruby: Are you using 2.0+?
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<nubyruby>
Ox0dea, yes
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<nubyruby>
are you saying * will consume any # of params, but ** will pick out only the hash-style params?
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<nubyruby>
Ox0dea, thanks for the info, have to jet unfortunately.
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<shevy>
Tux_007__ the rails guys are on #rubyonrails
<shevy>
many people here on #ruby do not know rails
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<eam>
what's rails
<miah>
its what a train rides on
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<Guest70145>
I just installed ruby on windows 8, using "gem install rails". Everything seemed to go fine. Then when i try to run ..."rails new myapp" I get a runtime error:
<Guest70145>
rbreadline.rb:1097:in `<module:RbReadline>': HOME environment variable (or HOMEDRIVE and HOMEPATH) must be set and point to a directory (RuntimeError)
<Guest70145>
can somebody help?
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<wmoxam>
Guest70145: Rails questions are better asked in #rubyonrails
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<wmoxam>
Guest70145: and Rails isn't well supported under Windows, most of the user base uses OSX and/or Linux
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<nahtnam>
but I think it is always the same length
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<sevenseacat>
thats not valid HTML
<sevenseacat>
(when not escaped)
<jhass>
lines.last.split.first
<jhass>
or maybe [1], I never remember
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<nahtnam>
jhass: I was actually able to remove all of the weird characters. Now I just need to remove all letters except the last 40. Any idea how to do that?
<sevenseacat>
"weird characters"?
<jhass>
nahtnam: do you need the rest of the string without the entities?
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<nahtnam>
jhass: No, I just need the last 40 letters
<nahtnam>
I already removed the weird entities with gsub
<sevenseacat>
-_-
<nahtnam>
I did @hash = @hash.to_s.gsub!(/[^0-9A-Za-z]/, '') and @hash = @hash.chop.chop
<nahtnam>
sevenseacat: Sorry. I removed the beautiful html entities
<jhass>
what about my suggestion instead of all that
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<Aeyrix>
nahtnam: Are you scraping a private torrent tracker?
<nahtnam>
Aeyrix: Nope, a public one
<sevenseacat>
just thepiratebay
<nahtnam>
^^^
<nahtnam>
jhass: ".split(//).last(5).join"?
<nahtnam>
Oops
<nahtnam>
sorry
<Aeyrix>
/^[0-9a-f]{40}$/i
<jhass>
no, that's not what I wrote
<nahtnam>
Ill try "ines.last.split.first"
<Aeyrix>
That'll get you the hash.
<jhass>
yeah, assuming they'll never change it to include a counterfeit
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<Aeyrix>
Any other solution here is just as vulnerable to DOM modification.
<Aeyrix>
There's no API for TPB.
* sevenseacat
wonders why the HTML is invalid
<jhass>
sevenseacat: really?
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<sevenseacat>
...yes?
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<jhass>
I'm rather surprised if I find valid HTML somewhere these days..
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<Aeyrix>
nahtnam: Seriously
<Aeyrix>
@hash.scan(/[a-f0-9/i)
<nahtnam>
Aeyrix: "/home/nahtnam/Desktop/jammytime/app/controllers/song_controller.rb:12: premature end of char-class: /[a-f0-9/i"
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<Andriamanitra>
ah actually there's a checkbox in the installer for "Install Tcl/Tk support"
<nahtnam>
Aeyrix: Yay! I got the same thing! Now I just have to remove the [" on both sides
<Andriamanitra>
I must've missed that when I installed
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<Aeyrix>
nahtnam: Before you try anything
<Aeyrix>
think about what [ and ] define.
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<nahtnam>
?
<Aeyrix>
hash[0]
<Aeyrix>
it's a single-element array.
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<nahtnam>
Aeyrix: Cant I just gsub?
<Aeyrix>
If you do
<Aeyrix>
scan()[0]
<Aeyrix>
As in, at the end of the scan, not a new scan() method.
<Aeyrix>
But it's an array, you can't gsub those off because they don't exist in the string.
<Aeyrix>
They're just there for your own viewing pleasure.
<nahtnam>
Aeyrix: Ohh. I see what you are saying
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<Aeyrix>
;-; work tomorrow
<Aeyrix>
i've only just gotten used to the weekend
<sevenseacat>
because you still were at work yesterday and im surprised youre not there now
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<Aeyrix>
Shhhh.
<Aeyrix>
I was doing university assignments today.
<sevenseacat>
university. i remember that.
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<Aeyrix>
So do I, unfortunately. :(
<Aeyrix>
I'm so close to quitting.
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<sjums>
uniwhat?
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<sevenseacat>
I very very nearly quit in my second year. i'm quite glad i didnt.
<sjums>
I dropped out on 2. of 3 years. Started another, shorter educations as web developer, and scored a job immediately after. Now 3 years later I'm still at that place :)
<sjums>
Was a good choice!
<Aeyrix>
I'm already employed full-time though, and have been for two years.
<Aeyrix>
... 3, actually.
<Aeyrix>
waow
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<bkxd>
Aeyrix: where are you working / studying?
<Aeyrix>
Melbourne.
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<bkxd>
Aeyrix: my home town. i mean which company / subject though
<Aeyrix>
I won't give out the company directly, but it's in information security.
<Aeyrix>
I study network design and security.
* sevenseacat
has a CS degree from melbourne uni
<Aeyrix>
It's garbage.
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<bkxd>
do you work in consultancy or at an asx300 company?
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<bkxd>
just curious as I'm interested in working in infoesc
<Aeyrix>
I worked at a fortune
<Aeyrix>
now I work at a consultancy.
<bkxd>
interesting work? good comp?
<Aeyrix>
Consultancy is more fun (imo) - the work never stays the same.
<Aeyrix>
Absolutely.
<bkxd>
i thought it could be fun to try infosec at booz. i wonder if you need to be a genius level iq though
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<Aeyrix>
Booz got bought out by my old work.
<Aeyrix>
In Australia.
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<bkxd>
Deloitte?
<bkxd>
anyway mate sounds like youre in a good spot
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<Aeyrix>
Weird, Tempfile#unlink isn't deleting the file on the filesystem.
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<Aeyrix>
welp, Sinatra and Tempfile do not play well together.
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<pipework>
Aeyrix: doubtful
<Aeyrix>
pipework: I'd venture the evidence is pretty concrete.
<pipework>
My guess is that the problem exists between the keyboard and chair, not between Sinatra and Tempfile
<Aeyrix>
3edgy
<Aeyrix>
5me
<Aeyrix>
3original
<sevenseacat>
oh, this will be good.
<pipework>
sevenseacat: It's starting out pretty rubbish, so it can only get better, right?
<sevenseacat>
:D
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<pipework>
Aeyrix: I'm amused that you think Sinatra won't work with Tempfile. I bet it has more to do with the code you've written than either of those libraries.
<Aeyrix>
That's nice.
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<pipework>
Ah just another waste of time. Owl go back to laughing without trying to get information to halp you with.
* Aeyrix
shrugs.
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<Aeyrix>
If I wanted your help, I'd ask.
<Aeyrix>
I've already been advised not to talk to you, though.
<pipework>
Lul.
<pipework>
I tend not play too nice with people like you, you're right. Good luck with whatever it is you think you're doing though. Happy hacking.
<Aeyrix>
wow so cool
<Aeyrix>
please add me to your ignore list
<pipework>
I wish more people would join here and identify themselves as not worth paying attention to so quickly.
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<Aeyrix>
pipework: Launch sinatra app
<Aeyrix>
create tempfile
<Aeyrix>
finish responding to get request, tempfile still exists
<Aeyrix>
send SIGTERM to sinatra
<Aeyrix>
tempfile still exists
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<Aeyrix>
in the response, there's a tempfile.close
<Aeyrix>
and also it should be rm'd when ruby interpreter exits anyway
<Aeyrix>
that violates both denotions on the Tempfile#close method documentation.
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<Aeyrix>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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<zotherstupidguy>
>> x = a, b, c = 10, a, 30
<ruboto>
zotherstupidguy # => undefined local variable or method `a' for main:Object (NameError) ...check link for more (https://eval.in/369210)
<sevenseacat>
zotherstupidguy: IRC is not IRB.
<pipework>
IRB-As-A-Service-Over-IRC
<Aeyrix>
Wow that's a million dollar company right there.
<zotherstupidguy>
sevenseacat hai, Gomen'nasai
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<Aeyrix>
pipework: pls2help then
<Aeyrix>
if you're a wizzerd
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<Aeyrix>
No but really, do you have any idea?
<pipework>
Aeyrix: Nahbruh, all fucks I had went out the window the second I chugged half a bottle of nyquil.
<Aeyrix>
o rekt
<pipework>
Aeyrix: Can you gist up your sinatra app though?
<Aeyrix>
Yeah on it.
<pipework>
Owl check it out when I wake the fuck up.
<Aeyrix>
Oh this is being served by Unicorn
<Aeyrix>
would that affect it?
<pipework>
Uh, you're killing the master and the child processes are being killed properly, right?
<pipework>
That's certainly an idea.
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<zotherstupidguy>
pipework kill'm all
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<Aeyrix>
SIGTERM sends SIGTERM to children.
<Aeyrix>
But even at the end of a request, the tempfile isn't being cleaned.
<zotherstupidguy>
i am sorry, i been reading deadpool comics all night, its his fault
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<zotherstupidguy>
aeyrix wow, have you been niktoing pizzhut?
<Aeyrix>
No.
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<zotherstupidguy>
aeyrix ok, a serious idea now, how about ascii art irc client, where each message is sent in ascii art, we will never get anything done !
<Aeyrix>
figlet-over-irc
<shevy>
wow
<shevy>
that's a lot of banner-praise to sevenseacat
<shevy>
did she deserve it?
<zotherstupidguy>
i belive in sevenseacat, she is the voice of wisdom in the chaos of irc
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<zotherstupidguy>
found a ruby gem artii, that generates ascii art, artii + cinch and the world is a better place for good! must try that at #bots
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<zotherstupidguy>
actually this is one way to avoid logging! there are no keywords in ascii art!
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<shevy>
haha
<zotherstupidguy>
if we chat on irc using ascii art, you dudge the logging, its like anti-google ads :D
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<shevy>
total anti NSA
<zotherstupidguy>
yeah :D
<zotherstupidguy>
analyze that ;) goodluck
<zotherstupidguy>
no encryptions, nothing! just ascii
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<bkxd>
too bad it would take about 10m to reverse-engineer!
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<zotherstupidguy>
bkxd for a human, sure! but for a computer, not really!
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<bkxd>
zotherstupidguy: i mean you could write an algorithm that detected the "/-\ " characters and back-solve pretty easily
<zotherstupidguy>
its difficult, ascii art is done in many ways, many fonts, many styles, and you can write an engine in chinese or whtever
<shevy>
chinese ascii art?
<zotherstupidguy>
why not?
<bkxd>
yeah what you're talking about is encryption, except it can ALSO be decrypted by visual human inspection
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<apeiros>
zotherstupidguy: while I doubt bkxd's 10min, I don't think either that it'd be too hard. detection is relatively trivial. and from there on it's just grunt work to implement a "parser" for each set of shapes
<apeiros>
I'd be more interested in how such agencies try to break steganography
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<bkxd>
its electronic codebook 'cryptography', aka bullsh*t encryption
<zotherstupidguy>
from what i understand form the movies, is they have somthing called full-take, which means they store EVERYTHING about EVERYONE, and got some kind of AI that raises flags, if a flag is raised then extra levels of inspections are required
<shevy>
zotherstupidguy you've just been flagged
<dorei>
zotherstupidguy: i think i have somewhere an unfiglet :p
<bkxd>
what you're referring to is called PRISM
<zotherstupidguy>
shevy i'm cute, i think i will getby =)
<zotherstupidguy>
apeiros but i dont think its easy, machine learning is a challange,
<zotherstupidguy>
shevy plz confirm tht ``` doesnt work inline, the rest is lazy to try.
<jhass>
zotherstupidguy: uh, see my link
<shevy>
zotherstupidguy inline?
<jhass>
I expected more results in the category of cebe/markdown
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<zotherstupidguy>
shevy `oneline of code` ```a code block``` thats the github way
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<shevy>
I think the first time I used markdown was when I wrote a README.md or something like that for a gem
<shevy>
I think I used only ... indent and * for bold... and some other component for headers
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<shevy>
I've only used kramdown so far, but for in .rb files code... now I have that standalone .md written by someone else, with those weird ``` ... they actually make it quite hard to read
<sevenseacat>
asciidoc >>>>>> markdown btw
<apeiros>
sevenseacat: sure? I haven't used asciidoc. what's nicer about it?
<sevenseacat>
like.... everything
<sevenseacat>
markdown gives me the irrits
<sevenseacat>
we wrote all of r4ia using asciidoc
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<shevy>
never used asciidoc before
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* jhass
waits for anything that's actually shorter and more expressive than [2,3,4].map {|e| [1, e] } or [2,3,4].each_with_object(1) if it's about iterating
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<jgt>
man
<jgt>
fuck
<jgt>
ugh
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<shevy>
all those unix commands
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<[k->
zip is really more expressive imo, jhass
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<jhass>
for zipping up with a single value? just no
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<jhass>
mh, doesn't get the "don't try to be too smart" label, but I think I wouldn't mind either variant, product or map
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<Darkwater>
what was that irb alternative called again?
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<c_nick>
HAML has text box and a button .. when user clicks on the button i need to pass the value of text box to my ruby code, I am able to get this in JS but i dont know how i will interface HTML/HAML = Ruby
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<Darkwater>
ah never mind, it's pry
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<zotherstupidguy1>
how to send colorful msg to irc?
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<wasamasa>
please don't
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<wasamasa>
it's annoying and if you're overdoing it, you can get kickbanned for it
<wasamasa>
it's also why some channels did disable color codes
<wasamasa>
including this one, yay
<shevy>
zotherstupidguy1 in mIRC there were colour codes such as yo
<shevy>
zotherstupidguy1 I don't remember how they were sent in IRC protocol, or whether it was a custom extension; some special character token... on my keyboard the above was strg+7, which I assume is control key + 7
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<IceDragon>
zotherstupidguy1: If your doing it from code the escape code is: "\x03#{fg_color_code},#{bg_color_code}#{message}\x03" # "\x031,2This is how I roll with friends\x03"
<IceDragon>
hi shevy :3
<jhass>
wasamasa: don't worry, we got +c on the channel
<shevy>
yo IceDragon
<wasamasa>
jhass: yup, noticed that shortly afterwards
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<IceDragon>
shevy: Whats the latest and greatest?
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<shevy>
dunno... trying to fix the "No package 'wayland-egl' found" error right now
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<IceDragon>
shevy: Which distro?
<shevy>
source
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<IceDragon>
shevy: such hardcore, much l33t, wow
<shevy>
it's no problem for well-behaving programs
<IceDragon>
well behaving O:
<shevy>
well, "egl" isn't a standalone package; and there is no "egl" configure option as part of wayland
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<c_nick>
i guess i'll just do a POST and get the stuff in my post handler
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<hanmac>
ping shevy
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<[k->
pong shevy
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<jhass>
peng shevy
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<phale>
how does it feel
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<jhass>
it?
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<phale>
damn
<phale>
is this the #music channel?
<jhass>
lol, no
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<phale>
oh
<phale>
why not?
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<jhass>
you got a cloak, you're clearly not too dumb to use your client. Stop trolling
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<phale>
jhass: oh hey
<phale>
what's your name
<jhass>
it's "You don't have to care"
<phale>
that's a nice name, You don't have to care.
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<phale>
why's ruby so slow
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<jhass>
example?
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<phale>
well I do ruby program
<phale>
ruby program.rb
<phale>
and it takes like 0.9 seconds
<phale>
that's pretty slow
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<jhass>
ruby program.rb 0.05s user 0.01s system 15% cpu 0.386 total
<phale>
0.05s?
<phale>
that's really slow
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<jhass>
I hardly notice it
<jhass>
no, actually I don't notice it at all, the time output seems instant
<phale>
a C program takes 0.004 seconds
<phale>
which is much much much faster
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<jhass>
it does much much much less
<jhass>
the fair comparison would include compiling and running it
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<phale>
sure
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<phale>
0.039
<phale>
oh
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<jhass>
and even then it does much less
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<phale>
does ruby compile the program, though?
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<jhass>
ruby --disable-gems program.rb 0.01s user 0.00s system 67% cpu 0.010 total
<jhass>
it does parse it
<jhass>
and transform it into an internal presentation to be interpreted by the VM
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<phale>
jhass: interesting
<phale>
whats the deal with gems, tho?
<phale>
they just seem very stupid to me
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<jhass>
that's sad to hear, that you're incapable of understanding the value of being able to use libraries easily
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<phale>
"easily"
<phale>
it's easier to use github
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<phale>
i can directly contribute to the repository
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<jhass>
you misunderstand gems
<phale>
oh, do i?
<jhass>
well, else your statement makes zero sense
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<phale>
anyways, ruby's a lot weird
<phale>
EOF will cause an exception..
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<DLSteve>
gems are just a packages, almost every major language has a package manager now for libs.
<phale>
c probably does but doesnt need it
<jhass>
phale: btw I would suggest you to use less factual wording to voice your opinions, "I think that .. ", "It seems like ..." etc help a lot to keep a civil and interesting discussion
<phale>
jhass: OKay
<DLSteve>
No language "needs" a package manager, It is for convenience.
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<phale>
sorry for misjudging ruby
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<Andriamanitra>
can these god damn gems work for once
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<Andriamanitra>
i can see the gem if i type "gem list --local" but requiring it fails
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<Andriamanitra>
i wish things would just work for once
<phale>
Andriamanitra: well
<jhass>
Andriamanitra: do you see a Gemfile ?
<phale>
you can always install gentoo
<jhass>
phale: don't be silly, that's completely unrelated
<Andriamanitra>
jhass: where should it be?
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<jhass>
Andriamanitra: in your projects root
<phale>
jhass: what do you mean? just yesterday I installed gentoo and programming in Ruby has been nothing but a breeze.
<phale>
no errors at all, everything just works
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<jhass>
well, then whatever you used previously sucked pretty hard :P
<Andriamanitra>
what project o_O i'm just trying it out in irb
<jhass>
Andriamanitra: okay, what gem and how do you require it?
<scwizard>
Hey I'm kind of a ruby noob. Does anyone know how I might loop through the IP addresses in a hash that looks like this?
<jhass>
calling methods with :: is discouraged though
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<sandelius>
there's always a lot of talk about inheritance vs mixins. My ideas has alwys been that required functionally, for a class, should be inherit and optional, extensions, should be included. What do you think?
<rgb-one>
What is the effect of running bundler with root privaleges
<rgb-one>
?
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<jhass>
uselessness, bundler will call sudo if it needs to escalate privileges
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<rgb-one>
jhass: Anything else?
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<jhass>
depends, things like sudo might affect your environment
<jhass>
?root
<ruboto>
General advise in system administration: do not and that means never use sudo or root to "fix" things. Only use it if you exactly know why it would work and why it wouldn't work under any circumstances as normal user. Or if you're told to do it.
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<rgb-one>
jhass: affect it in what way?
<jhass>
unset some variables, set others
<scwizard>
This line: puts "".gsub(/D:\Programs\HashiCorp\Vagrant\embedded/, "")
<scwizard>
gives me this error: D:/VagrantHome/gems/gems/vagrant-triggers-0.5.0/lib/vagrant-triggers/dsl.rb:94: warning: invalid Unicode Property \P: /D:\Programs\HashiCorp\Vagrant\embedded/
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<scwizard>
why is ruby seeing a regex that includes \P as a unicode property thing and not just text I'm confuse
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<rgb-one>
jhass: Thank you but the info thus far is a bit vague. Do you have any experience running bundler with sudo what did you observe happening. Explain to me like I am a child.
<jhass>
I simply never do
<jhass>
since there's no reason to
<ebonics>
the reason you avoid using sudo when possible is so that you dont _always_ need root privilages
<ebonics>
privileges *
<ebonics>
since everything you do as root is going to cause files created etc to be owned by root
<ebonics>
if you use sudo for everything you might aswell just use root all the time
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<chrisseaton>
Mon_Ouie: ah right - they destructure but they'll also take a scalar and interpret it as an array with one value
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<shevy>
IceDragon tackled that wayland-egl problem; it wasn't a problem of wayland per-se but mesalib did not have egl/gles* stuff, things are working now
<IceDragon>
shevy: Yay!
<IceDragon>
shevy: You can have world domination now right?
<IceDragon>
all I did was: SpeakerJob.new.async.perform "Person-1 says, 'welcome!!'"
<arup_r>
what you did? so got too long error
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<arup_r>
Well.....
<arup_r>
why should throw error..
<arup_r>
what am I missing ???
<IceDragon>
I have no idea whats going on, this thing is just fragile...
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<arup_r>
Issue ticket...... should I log?
<arup_r>
ur opinion......?
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<IceDragon>
arup_r: Yeah, open an issue, and ask the devs whats up, because this SHOULD work
<IceDragon>
arup_r: Otherwise, just use good old ruby threads :3
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<arup_r>
IceDragon: I have some other things which I am trying to accomplish using this Gem.. or Atleast trying to see if I can do it or not.......
<arup_r>
have time to listen ? :)
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<shevy>
nobody has time!
<shevy>
this is the modern era
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<arup_r>
hummmm
<shevy>
I feel so alone in the ruby-GUI world...
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<arup_r>
what's that ?
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<shevy>
:(
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<IceDragon>
shevy: GUI, SHAME
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<shevy>
:(((
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<IceDragon>
shevy: REAL MEN USE THE CONSOLE
<IceDragon>
arup_r: I just learned something, add a sleep after the `50.times` block and it will work just fine, the gem is meant to run in the background with your regular process
<IceDragon>
arup_r: What bothers me though, I didn't find a method for awaiting/joining the background threads with the current
<apeiros>
wow, I'm so lucky not to be a real man
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<shevy>
IceDragon yeah I do so too, but I want to combine both
<adaedra>
apeiros: JOIN THE CONSOLE USERS
<IceDragon>
apeiros: HERETIC!
<apeiros>
IceDragon: ZEALOT!
<IceDragon>
AND PROUD
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<apeiros>
SAME
<apeiros>
btw, your capslock is stuck
<adaedra>
It's below the <Tab> key
<shevy>
the most useless key of all times
<apeiros>
indeed
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<shevy>
it's interesting that, after all those years, we mostly tend to use the generic keyboards... qwerty/qwertz variants
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<IceDragon>
apeiros: surprising I used shift ;x
<IceDragon>
I'm thinking of making capslock load up firefox >.>
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* atmosx
Los Lobos - We Belong Together
<shevy>
hmm
<dreinull75>
how can I do % operations with hex values? Like 33%10 => 3
<shevy>
this does not seem to be hex?
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<Mon_Ouie>
Just like that though
<dreinull75>
no, thats int
<dreinull75>
"\0x33"%"\0xf"
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<dreinull75>
doesnt work
<Mon_Ouie>
Those are strings, if you have an integer you can just do 0x33 % 0xf
<dreinull75>
oh, the 0 was wrong
<Mon_Ouie>
"\0x33" is a 4-byte strings so I'm not sure what it's even meant to mean
<atmosx>
dreinull75: why would you wanna do that?
<IceDragon>
dreinull75: If you have a HEX string, you can use String#to_i(16) to convert it to an Integer
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<IceDragon>
dreinull75: Otherwise, ruby has 0xYOUR_HEX_VALUE eg. 0x7F198732
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<dreinull75>
IceDragon I have some weird "crypto" sh§$%. Someone tried to be smart and reverse strings: s becomes | for example
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<shevy>
\o/
<IceDragon>
dreinull75: Sounds familiar, I forgot the name of the crypto method
<dreinull75>
is it something known?
<IceDragon>
um.. I think it just rotates the byte values
<dreinull75>
had to figure it out myself
<arup_r>
I am working on Rails project.. where end user will submit a request to generate a report..... task is get files fro FTP server..... unzip it... import to DB.... export the records as per the wriiten SQL ... and then email..... after this clean the DB.. DB has only 2 tables....
<dreinull75>
so is there some simple solution? I have to hop to the next f and subtract the last digit from that
<dreinull75>
sorry, missing words for hex calculations
<IceDragon>
┐(￣ヮ￣)┌
<IceDragon>
Dunno, I don't do crypto
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<arup_r>
Now for one user it is ok.. Not able to understand how can I scale this without impacting any other user requests.... for N number of users.........
<arup_r>
I thought I
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<Mon_Ouie>
If you want to perform numerical operations on the values of the bytes that make up a string, use string.unpack("C*") to get an array of integers
<arup_r>
will create a class UserReuest.. inside which I'll wrap all other taks and then submit it to the suckerpunch queue... for synchronous processing...
<arup_r>
Am I doing it correctly..
<atmosx>
arup_r: seriously, isn't any better way to get files?
<IceDragon>
or you could just get the bytes using #bytes
<arup_r>
no... files are in FTP..........
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<arup_r>
for each day new files... files are zipped
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<arup_r>
I have to pull those
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<baweaver>
Probably best to avoid FTP
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<arup_r>
But the point is if I submit o1 to on objects ... to suckerpunch for sync processing........ will it do synchronously.. or randomly......
<arup_r>
IceDragon: data -> Ruby was taking too much time
<arup_r>
because CSV files are huge
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<Mon_Ouie>
that's the '%' method you use in "\x33" % "\xf", it has nothing to do with modulus
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<dreinull75>
Mon_Ouie you're right
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<arup_r>
but postgres COPY command is fastest.......... IceDragon
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<IceDragon>
can postgres import csv files?
<IceDragon>
O:
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<IceDragon>
if ruby is too slow for csv parsing, all you need is a faster csv parser instead of a full blown database which serves no other purpose but to load your csv for a one off use (and possibly queries, guess I can't beat that one ;x)
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<arup_r>
All is well.. Only worried about synchronous processing......
<arup_r>
I think Rails serves requests using multiple threads......
<IceDragon>
postgres should be thread safe, :O but don't listen to me
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<arup_r>
and how those threads will work for o1 to oN .. I don't know with suckerpunch
<IceDragon>
arup_r: You'll be interacting with the database via ActiveRecord which most likely, which has thread safety mechanisms in place (otherwise, wtf)
<arup_r>
I need synchronous processing in background
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<IceDragon>
arup_r: SuckerPunch::Job with 1 worker, it will push all the jobs into a queue and process them synchronously (in the background)
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<IceDragon>
arup_r: ahh, not sure about this one :(
<IceDragon>
arup_r: Might be worth rolling your own background worker
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<jhass>
(they left)
<IceDragon>
jhass: shiiiieeet
<IceDragon>
IceDragon.raise PipeBroken
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<adaedra>
ok
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<woodennails>
Evening guys :)
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<woodennails>
I have a job interview next week for a Junior developer job, they know i don't know Ruby, but they're taking junior developers on and cross training them onto Ruby, Anything i could say/do you guys think to prepare in advance?
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<apeiros>
woodennails: since they know you don't know ruby - show that you're preparing to learn it
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<woodennails>
Yeah, ive been doing some stuff on codecademy :)
<woodennails>
I've been working as a developer for a year, so i hope im gonna be okay, considering its a junior dev role
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<duderonomy>
What region is this in?
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<adaedra>
Earth.
<duderonomy>
It's good to see the job market getting tighter... i presume
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<shevy>
hmm
<shevy>
what jobs!
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<adaedra>
THEY TOOK OUR JOBS
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<ytti>
DIKKADOOOO
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<adaedra>
(One day, I'll be able to deploy a rails app without having to lookup random things on Google)
<shevy>
haha
<shevy>
damn
<shevy>
you are a rails guy
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<woodennails>
Its in the UK duderonomy
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<shevy>
the UK is very rails heavy
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<duderonomy>
hey thx. I'm in sf bay area (south bay); San Francisco is also Rails heavy.