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hi guys i want to be able to update multiple rows in the database without the use of a form, is that possible?
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"I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question."
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jaffejoe >
ok let me try asking a different way
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jaffejoe >
so i have an array of event objects
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and i want to change the the current start and end time of each event based some conditions
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my understanding is you can't use the update action without a form? I don't need the user to update the event times themselves with a form
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you can do whatever you want
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apeiros >
also, it seems you're talking about rails
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apeiros >
and rails is over in #rubyonrails
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jaffejoe >
oh ok thx, i will head over there
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apeiros >
a form is just one way to perform an http post or put request
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apeiros >
otherwise it's unrelated
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apeiros >
and doing side effects only on post/put/delete/patch requests is a convention (though, you should follow that one)
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apeiros >
another way to perform an http post/put/delete/patch request is through JS
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which is 'that' when you say though you should follow that one
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the convention of only using those http verbs when doing side effects
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jaffejoe >
ahh i see
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LACampbell: #local_variable_set can't be used to introduce new locals.
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It can only modify existing ones or add new ones to a new Binding.
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allisio: ah right. so is there anything I can do inside of render to keep the interface the same?
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LACampbell: Probably. :P
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try passing that binding of the calling context
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but "contents" is just a key in a hashtable, not a local variable
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I think my only option is to create throw away class inside render, and do it that way.
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why the library designers decided people really wanted to mess around with bindings when doing stuff like this is beyond me
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that must be for advanced purposes
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volty >
I need time to realize those bindings for erb, but I do pass bindings in my tracing (debugging) routines. You'll get it when you'll need it.
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volty >
you probably need something far less trivial
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volty >
s/less/more/
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mwlang >
I’m looking at Jbuilder’s code and saw that instead of doing “yield” or instance_eval(&block), they’re calling “&::Proc.new”
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mwlang >
is that the same thing or something slightly different going on?
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allisio >
mwlang: Proc.new and Kernel#proc, when called without a block, will instead implicitly use the one passed to the method.
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allisio >
>> def foo; proc.call; end; foo { 42 }
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mwlang >
so is &::Proc.new the same as “yield”?
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mwlang >
or maybe the better question is why &::Proc.new instead of yield?
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matthewd >
mwlang: It's the same as &block
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matthewd >
.. only without putting &block in the argument list
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mwlang >
Ah-ha! now that actually makes more sense.
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matthewd >
The biggest advantage is it's more opaque for a reader ;)
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mwlang >
So I guess it’s a way to “get at” &block when it’s not explicitly named.
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matthewd >
The actual advantage is that the proc doesn't get constructed until you decide you need it
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Whereas `yield` prevents that Proc being created at all.
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matthewd >
Yeah: `Proc.new` is to `yield`, as `block` is to `block.call`
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one thing I was toying with was instance_eval(&block) as a way to yield to a given block and have the instance variables of the caller in scope.
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allisio >
That is indeed a major use case for that method.
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mwlang >
is there a “better” way to do this or am I doing it the right way?
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allisio >
You're good.
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mwlang: The instance variables of the *receiver*, just to be crystal-clear.
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mwlang >
where’s the best place to read up on this in the docs?
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Metaprogramming Ruby. ^_^
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allisio: thanks. looks like a good book.
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mwlang: It's excellent.
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I’ve skipped over this one a couple of times but it looks like I’m at the right place now to actually appreciate it.
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That gives me warm fuzzies.
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that String “"Ac0YReUUnidrnR1uGzpgQ” is actually a constant from the keys.rb file but somehow it’s calling a private #key and i have no idea why
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siaw23 >
it didn’t do that a year ago. and i think i was using another version of oauth. how do i get rid of this?
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siaw23 >
PS: keys are fake…
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siaw23: That method apparently expects a Hash where you're passing a String.
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allisio: i tried doing request.oauth! http, { :consumer_key => "eUAc0YRUnidrnR1uGzpgQ"}, {:access_token => "45018198-tee70pZddMLBGKoYCRULtzU3yL34WWiNYqinrr5Pb"}
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allisio: i’m getting /Users/siaw23/.rvm/gems/ruby-2.3.0/gems/oauth-0.5.1/lib/oauth/client/helper.rb:33:in `key': wrong number of arguments (given 0, expected 1) (ArgumentError)
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siaw23: Well, never mind, then; it's probably expecting a domain object.
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allisio >
An instance of OAuth::Consumer, if the docs are to be believed.
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allisio: any idea how i can feed it my keys?
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bigbadman >
is python easier to learn than ruby?
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bigbadman >
is anyone here?
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bigbadman >
which takes more time to learn , ruby or python , for a total beginner?
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go|dfish >
bigbadman: depends on the person
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bigbadman >
no for the same person, which has more syntax and things to learn, and harder, relatively , on an average
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go|dfish >
well, someone may find python easier, someone may find ruby easier
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elomatreb >
Just pick one, learning to
*program* is independent of learning a programming language
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nofxxx >
what elomatreb said just summarized, but ruby is by far better to learn, two simple facts: kiss and least surprise
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bigbadman, ^
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bigbadman >
what do you mean by keep it simple?
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apeiros >
>> "Which one is easier to learn, ruby or python? Obviously it's #{rand > 0.5 ? 'Ruby' : 'Python'}."
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bigbadman >
you mean barebones or what nofxxx simple things are hard to leasrn, as machine language is too simple ;)
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apeiros >
bigbadman: ^ there is your answer. fair and square. obviously it's ruby.
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elomatreb >
apeiros: Nice, first try
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matthewd >
apeiros: hah, and that was even biased to Python :P
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nofxxx >
the universe has just spoken, what could I add?
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bigbadman >
complex is better than simple is the motto of python, but what does simple mean here in this context, it can mean "anything"
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elomatreb >
I'm not sure how I feel about saying Ruby is simpler than python, seeing how common complicated metaprogramming is in Ruby
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apeiros >
bigbadman: seriously though, the difference between learning ruby and python is rather small
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matthewd >
bigbadman: You asked a similarly vague question.. it seems unreasonable to complain about a lack of precision in the answer
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bigbadman >
apeiros: but the ruby site said that it has more syntax than python? I am confused
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I'd have said ruby has less syntax than python. but I never counted…
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bigbadman >
the difference is small, but which is more difficult for a beginner
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matthewd >
bigbadman: Starting.
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bigbadman: hard to say. anybody who learns both is no longer a beginner at learning the other.
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nofxxx >
jez, how much talk and it's so simple... which you prefer bigbadman: a red beautiful and precious gem or a ugly green sneaky thing?
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nofxxx >
choose tech by logo always works
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nofxxx >
exception being GNU/linux stuff of course...
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ruby family
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my friends
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how are you folks doing today?
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apeiros >
this folk is fine
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apeiros >
slightly pissed about horizon zero dawn being PS4 exclusive :<
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marchelzo >
glad you are doing ok apeiros
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apeiros >
and how're you?
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marchelzo >
i'm doing well, thanks ^_^
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marchelzo >
don't let me down
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marchelzo >
i need a sane irc library for ruby
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marchelzo >
it doesn't look very sane, if i'm being honest
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bougyman >
how is it not sane?
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apeiros >
which parts don't look sane?
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bougyman >
it's a lot saner than rbot
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marchelzo >
you use a class with a mixin to add a command to your bot?
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marchelzo >
look at the Hello class in the readme
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marchelzo >
why is that a class? what is a Hello object? it doesn't mean anything
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marchelzo >
cinch has a bunch of constants instead of using the numerics that are used in the rfc? that's supposed to be helpful?
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apeiros >
the Hello class is a plugin
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apeiros >
and it's a class because it scales (code structure wise) and it allows you to encapsulate things your plugin does
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apeiros >
and yes, I think names are more meaningful than numbers. cf magic numbers in code.
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apeiros >
(or magic strings, since not all irc commands are numbers)
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marchelzo >
now people need to read the cinch documentation instead of just reading the RFCs which are the real definitive source for IRC
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apeiros >
you'll a) rarely ever need them and b) it's literally a single search in that file. you make an elephant from a mouse.
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marchelzo >
every irc library i have found tries to do way too much
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apeiros >
then build your own?
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marchelzo >
i was hoping i wouldn't need to
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marchelzo >
i just want something that handles the protocol
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apeiros >
you don't need to
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apeiros >
but you don't seem happy with what's available
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marchelzo >
not something opinionated that tries to be a "framework"
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apeiros >
if you want, I can give you the ircsocket part of ruboto/ruby[bot]
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apeiros >
it's the underlying/primitive part of the framework
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marchelzo >
give me a stream of tokenized messages and a way to write things to the server. i can implement anything else on top of that trivially
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marchelzo >
cinch isn't doing you any favors with all this machinery it comes with
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allisio >
That's, like, six lines of Ruby.
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apeiros >
allisio: sadly not really
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apeiros >
only if you do it in a broken way
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allisio >
"Perfect is the enemy of good."
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apeiros >
broken is not good
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ytti_ >
s/good/done/
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marchelzo >
the only really tricky part is connecting and authenticating, especially if you want to handle SASL and SSL. that's what i'd like the library to take care of. i don't need it to decide the structure of my irc bot
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marchelzo >
thanks folks
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marchelzo >
cinch might be ok after all
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marchelzo >
sorry for the negativity
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kulelu88 >
Hello all
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kulelu88 >
how do I debug a "sudo gem install" command? it is not showing anything
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kulelu88 >
apologies to anybody that I have inadvertently offended. It seems I am not welcome here. Bye
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apeiros >
I asked them to change their nick, their preference was to leave. that's up to them.
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apeiros >
i.e. their nick is not welcome here.
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marchelzo >
lol you can't be serious
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apeiros >
I am. I will not have nazi references in here. or do you suggest you want those?
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marchelzo >
i suggest that isn't a nazi reference. it's not even remotely close.
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marchelzo >
look at all of the other things on that wikipedia page
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apeiros >
it is and it is widely used by nazis to recognize each other. anyway, that topic is at an end here. #ot if you want to pursue.
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marchelzo >
maybe he was born in 1988
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rippa >
if he was kulelu1488, then I could see it
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ruby[bot] >
this seems to be off-topic. Please move your discussion to #ruby-offtopic, to keep this channel free for Ruby related topics. Thanks!
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apeiros >
if it had been that it'd have been a kickban.
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marchelzo >
forgive me but that is stupid. and i know you're a good person. i didn't expect this sort of nonsense from you
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apeiros >
when I said the topic is over, I meant it. next will be mute. move it to #ruby-offtopic otherwise.
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lumberjack__ >
Hey guys Im trying to save json to file with File using puts {"key":"value"} but its converting it to a hash, how do I prevent that?
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apeiros >
that'd be because {"key": "value"} isn't json but a hash
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apeiros >
puts({"key": "value"}.to_json)
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bougyman >
or puts('{"key": "value"}')
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lumberjack__ >
bougyman: I was trying to do it that way but my json is in a variable
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spmd >
sup marchelzo
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marchelzo >
not much spmd how are you doing
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spmd >
due to school, couldn't do anything with ruby but now i am back
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marchelzo >
that's ok
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marchelzo >
you'll be back in business before long
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spmd >
that's the plan
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spmd >
lol, good night
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spmd >
its 3 in the morning here
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marchelzo >
good night then
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marchelzo >
sleep tight
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marchelzo >
ruby folks
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marchelzo >
lets say i make my own collection type
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marchelzo >
how do i make it Enumerable
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marchelzo >
u feel me?
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Papierkorb >
marchelzo: include Enumerable and implement `#each`
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marchelzo >
Papierkorb: i'll see how that goes and report my findings.
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allisio >
Ain't Ruby grand?
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marchelzo >
it's ok
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marchelzo >
Papierkorb, allisio -- encountering an issue
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allisio >
marchelzo: #initialize is like main().
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Papierkorb >
marchelzo: "encountering an issue" is not descriptive. what's the exact error you're getting?
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marchelzo >
oops just realized my each implementation is broken
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marchelzo >
but the problem right now is an ArgumentError
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Papierkorb >
marchelzo: Complete error message please
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marchelzo >
to the CircularBuffer constructor i think
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allisio >
You can't name your constructor #init.
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allisio >
It has to be #initialize.
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allisio >
Just as main() has to be main() in C.
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marchelzo >
oh hahahaha
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marchelzo >
i forgot the name
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marchelzo >
i don't use ruby much
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marchelzo >
thanks ^_^
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allisio: why sighs
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marchelzo: A laugh.
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Radar >
Does anyone have experience with using Rack::Session::Cookie middlewares to manage multiple cookies from different subdomains?
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Radar >
i.e. sub1.mydomain.com and sub2.mydomain.com
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Radar >
I want to store/manage different cookies for both of these subdomains from their individual subdomains as well as mydomain.com
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