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RawphullCawpter: fatal: Not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git
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<gizmore|2>
darwin_sigar.c:403:22: error: no member named 'v_cache_min' in 'struct vmmeter'
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<RawphullCawpter>
okay, but all I did was run gem install, and it managed to install a bunch of other gems first, so I'm not sure what to do about this. Particularly not the error in the C code
<RawphullCawpter>
I'm not even sure where it's seeing .git since that's not in the directory I was in when I ran the command
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<RawphullCawpter>
the "current directory" doesn't have it, either
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<gizmore|2>
RawphullCawpter: probably some outdated software
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<andydna>
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<elomatreb>
#send bypasses access control/visibility, i.e. you can call private methods with #send
<elomatreb>
The main use of these is either during testing or in places where you want to dynamically call methods
<xco>
elomatreb: ok! :) in this case public #hello and #public_send are the same thing in my example right?
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<xco>
meaning using #send is useless because #hello is public anyway?
<elomatreb>
Yep
<elomatreb>
Unless you actually want the bypassing behavior, using public_send is the correct choice in most of the cases
<elomatreb>
(And wanting that behavior usually indicates a deeper problem anyway)
<xco>
ok i got confused because i saw code where they were using #public_send even when their #method was public anyway
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<elomatreb>
You can't accidentally end up calling something you shouldn't, it's just good practice
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<xco>
are you saying using #public_send is a better practice over using #hello in my example?
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<xco>
can i think of it this way; that i can use #public_send(:some_method) when I have :some_method both defined publicly and privately?
<elomatreb>
You can't have a method defined publicly and privately
<elomatreb>
The one that comes later will override
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<elomatreb>
And generally you shouldn't use the send-style calling, it's for when you want to call a method dynamically (usually to avoid having to type long if-elseif chains)
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<xco>
ok thank you
<xco>
what’s “dynamic calling” anyway?
<srt2>
Hi all, I'm having some trouble parsing a CSV in Ruby that contains commas. They're all inside double quotes (exported from LibreOffice Calc), but I still get a "CSV::MalformedCSVError: Missing or stray quote in line 3" when I try to parse them. Any ideas what I can do to fix?
<elomatreb>
Contrived example, but imagine you want to call one of many methods at random. You could either pick an index and go through a long else-if chain, or you could put those method names as symbols into an array and use #sample to pick a random one for public_send
<xco>
elomatreb: got it :)
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<elomatreb>
If you do complex stuff with it it's usually a sign that you're overcomplicating/over-DRYing your code
<xco>
you’re right, the code i saw was actually over-DRYing stuff
<apeiros>
srt2: gist a piece of csv which reproduces your error
<elomatreb>
srt2: Are the quotes actual quotes or some high-ASCII/Unicode quotes?
<apeiros>
srt2: usually the reason for this kind of error is invalid csv, but since you say you exported it from libreoffice, I'd actually assume the csv to be valid.
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<apeiros>
srt2: probably because you have unquoted empty fields
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<apeiros>
oh, not empty, they wrapped…
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<srt2>
yeah
<apeiros>
that's directly from LO?
<apeiros>
iirc this is not valid: `"data" ,` (whitespace after the quote)
<srt2>
it's weird... I'm kinda tempted to try setting the text delimiter to a single quote and then manually replacing all the commas with "\," in the spreadsheet before I export it
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<apeiros>
but I'd have to read the most recent rfc again
<srt2>
it's valid CSV syntax then, sure, but I can't actually use it because activerecord balks when trying to import it because there's other space characters after the header names
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<apeiros>
ok, reread the rfc, and I'd say calc is at fault here.
<apeiros>
this does not allow for spaces to be around quoted data
<srt2>
I get what libreoffice is trying to do - maintain readability and all that - but you're right, it looks like it breaks the standard
<srt2>
I'll file a report with them
<apeiros>
I'm curious about the result. can you keep me posted about it?
<srt2>
Sure haha!
<apeiros>
note: I wish ruby's csv class had a way to handle semi-broken csv like this :-/ (there's plenty)
<srt2>
yeah :/
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<srt2>
oh...
<srt2>
oh
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<srt2>
okay, so as it turns out, I am a massive idiot
<apeiros>
:D
<apeiros>
do tell?
<apeiros>
(might help me telling others they're being massive idiots ;-p)
<srt2>
the spreadsheet file had spaces in... I didn't think to check *smh*
<srt2>
LO wasn't adding spaces, there were spaces in the header when the file was given to me apparently
<srt2>
why I was given the file with spaces in the headers is now the mystery...
<apeiros>
but you exported it from LO? so it should properly quote those fields?
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<srt2>
yeah, it doesn't quite answer the whole thing, but it answers the question of why it wasn't working properly when I forced it to quote everything
<apeiros>
btw. srt2, the "always quote" variant seems to work fine?
<srt2>
yeah, always quote worked fine, the thing was that there were loads of spaces littered around it, and it turns out that's the fault of the original spreadsheet, not LO haha
<apeiros>
ok, so I'd actually still maintain that LO creates faulty csv when "always quote" is off
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<apeiros>
btw., you can get rid of the surrounding spaces by: parsed_csv.map { |r| r.map { |c| c.strip } }
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<srt2>
yeah, ta :)
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<srt2>
apeiros: I dunno what the spaces were doing, but without them, the CSV is suddenly valid...
<srt2>
even without the quote everything option on
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<apeiros>
srt2: makes sense. as said, IMO a bug in calc. it shouldn't matter what data you have in your sheet. it should generate valid csv.
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<dminuoso>
apeiros: Dont you wish you could write (map * map)[&:strip, parsed_cvs] instead?
<dminuoso>
Or rather
<dminuoso>
What Ruby friendly syntax would you like to be able to use here.
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<havenwood>
?offtopic schneider
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<schneider>
sorry, wrong command, ignore it
* schneider
Undernet .
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<garyserj>
If I have a statement for x in [1,2,3] do ....... end Is it possible to replace do and end with { and } ?
<garyserj>
I get an error when I try.. I can't see if it's possible to use curly braces with a for, and how
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<alfiemax>
garyserj: you'd have to use `each` for that
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<weaksauce>
garyserj no but there is a simple class you can use to use erb from a script