#ruby on 2018-12-16 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

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00:35 <baweaver> Question for the group

00:35 <baweaver> Array methods like push, pop, and shovel operators are fairly common

00:35 <baweaver> Queue-like methods seem less so

00:36 <baweaver> Would it be an altogether bad idea to skip explaining them in a beginners tutorial?

00:36 <baweaver> shift and unshift are so danged rare it seems except for command-line / bin type scripts. They're also substantially less efficient.

00:37 <baweaver> (unless Ruby started doing some real black magic to arrays recently)

00:37 <baweaver> havenwood: What say ye?

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00:39 <phaul> baweaver: just my two cents. it doesnt matter. If your goal is to cover Array why not. I would myself put the emphasis on data structures, and how Array can represent many things, but that's my thinking, probably not what you want to teach them

00:40 <baweaver> More that I end up covering so much that I have to skiff on some areas.

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00:41 <phaul> I mean I agree its not the most essential or if you ask me the most elegant thing.. Seems Ruby array is everything. including Sets ..

00:42 <phaul> hard to find something an Array is not

00:43 <baweaver> &>> ![]

00:43 <rubydoc> # => false (https://carc.in/#/r/5ssn)

00:43 <baweaver> Seems easy to me

00:43 <phaul> :)

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00:56 <leftylink> baweaver: I would show you https://stackoverflow.com/questions/8353026/what-is-the-run-time-of-shift-unshift-in-a-ruby-array/47683752#47683752 regarding the efficiency of shift/unshift, but I guess knowing this still doesn't necessarily mean you do want to explain them

00:56 <leftylink> I guess it just means that the performance wouldn't be the reason to disqualify them; if you disqualify them it'd be for other reasons

01:00 <baweaver> Aha, so they did fix it. I just use them so rarely I never check. Good find leftylink

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20:38 <hays> I have a module with a function in it, and I want to use this function two ways. but I can't seem to get it to work. when I use the function normally, I need it to be self.function in the module, and when I extend it in a class, it needs to be function

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20:42 <hays> i feel like ruby is always fighting me on certain things...

20:42 <hays> I just want to reuse code :)

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21:18 <Wafficus> hi there, question regarding installing gems for Ruby in Linux, I have the same issue as in this GitHub issue: https://github.com/0xsauby/yasuo/issues/33

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21:19 <Wafficus> can anyone help me adapt the final solution aka "sudo apt-get install zlib1g-dev libsqlite3-dev

21:19 <Wafficus> bundle install --path vey

21:19 <Wafficus> sudo apt-get install zlib1g-dev libsqlite3-dev

21:19 <Wafficus> bundle install --path vendor --gemfile ./Gemfile

21:19 <Wafficus> the second part is what I can't comprehend what they mean to make me do

21:19 <Wafficus> is it stating to go into a gem file path that was installed for sqllite 3?

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21:33 <phaul> hays: can you elaborate on what you mean by "when I extend it in a class, it needs to be function". maybe a small code example would help

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22:05 <phaul> hays: you might find this useful.. :

22:05 <phaul> &ri module_function

22:05 <rubydoc> https://ruby-doc.org/core-2.5.3/Module.html#method-i-module_function

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22:28 <andrewray> I want to make a custom rspec matcher so I can do expect { x() }.to do_my_thing <- but having trouble definining do_my_thing

22:28 <andrewray> oh wait maybe it's https://relishapp.com/rspec/rspec-expectations/docs/custom-matchers/define-a-matcher-supporting-block-expectations

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22:41 <andrewray> but I can't figure out how to do expect{a}.to raise_error().or *not* eq(some_thing)

22:41 <andrewray> is there a .or_not ?

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22:42 <andrewray> I want to verify something either raises an error, *or* doesn't match some condition

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23:09 <andrewray> I'm doing `RSpec::Matchers.define_negated_matcher :not_eq, :eq` but it's not letting me `expect{a}.to raise_error().or not_eq('yyy')`

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23:13 <andrewray> rspec dsl so funky

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