#ruby on 2018-12-22 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

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00:01 <cthulchu_> it's kinda sad that Ruby doesn't have the concept of primitives

00:01 <cthulchu_> One one hans I'm kinda grateful for the fact that everything is an object

00:01 <cthulchu_> on the other hand, it's uncomfy to not being able to pass arguments by reference

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12:34 <za1b1tsu> When using the ruby readline library, there was a key combination to give multiline input

12:34 <za1b1tsu> I forgot and can't find it with google

12:34 <za1b1tsu> basically you start a newline but it does not send the input

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12:44 <phaul> za1b1tsu: google site: https://irclog.whitequark.org/ruby za1b1tsu readline

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12:52 <za1b1tsu> phaul thank you sir, I did not know that this history is kept like this

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12:53 <phaul> yeah, we have to be careful about what we say ;)

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12:55 <za1b1tsu> I don't even know I found out initialy

12:55 <za1b1tsu> I googled like crazt

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16:47 <isene> Because of this (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ruby-defaults/+bug/1809500) I need to downgrade from Ruby 2.5.1 to maybe 2.2 or even 1.9 for my whole system (Ubuntu 18.10). How can I do that in the best possible way?

16:49 <Zarthus> isene: it's nonreproducable on 18.04, prod isn't an lts?

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16:50 <havenwood> isene: Brightbox maintains multiple Ruby version packages for Ubuntu: https://www.brightbox.com/docs/ruby/ubuntu/

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16:53 <havenwood> isene: You can alternatively just build Ruby yourself. There are handy tools to make that easy: https://ryanbigg.com/2014/10/ubuntu-ruby-ruby-install-chruby-and-you

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16:54 <isene> Zarthus: Yes, it worked fine in 18.04

16:56 <isene> So, I should remove my Ruby installation for my 18.10 system (which can only be Ruby 2.5.1) and download e.g. 2.2 and install that manually, I guess? But I wonder if that will break anything else...

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16:57 <havenwood> isene: You don't need to remove the system Ruby to install another.

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16:58 <isene> But how do I ensure my script will confine itself (with my imap calls) to e.g. 2.2?

16:58 <havenwood> isene: You can use ruby-switch with the Brightbox packages or chruby if you build it yourself.

17:00 <havenwood> isene: All chruby really does is put the Ruby you select and its gems in front of your PATH and set other env vars like GEM_HOME and GEM_PATHS.

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17:01 <isene> havenwood: Let's say I go with Brightbox packages (seems easy), what is ruby-switch? My script is core Ruby with no gem dependencies

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17:02 <havenwood> isene: sudo apt-get install ruby-switch && sudo ruby-switch --set ruby2.4.4

17:02 <havenwood> isene: ^ for example

17:02 <havenwood> isene: see: https://www.brightbox.com/docs/ruby/ubuntu#switching-the-default-ruby-version

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17:06 <isene> Thanks, havenwood. Appreciate it :-)

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17:09 <isene> I see that 2.5.1 is also the version on Ubuntu 18.04... :-O That's odd since the bug wasn't there in 18.04 - but it is in 18.10. I wonder what changed...

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17:14 <isene> Err:8 http://ppa.launchpad.net/brightbox/ruby-ng/ubuntu cosmic Release

17:14 <isene> 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.95.83 80]

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21:54 <isene> havenwood: This is getting weirder by the minute - the bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ruby-defaults/+bug/1809500) seems to actually not be Ruby specific - because I purged my Ruby 2.5.1 that comes with Ubuntu 18.10 and installed 2.5.3 and 2.4.5 and tried both - and they both show up with the bug. So, my conclusion must be that there is something else wrong in 18.10. But WTF?

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