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<phaul> one is for lexical nesting of modules diregarding any relation of objects the other is all about relating objects disregarding layout of code.
<xco> oops
<xco> i’ll need to peruse the documentation
<xco> what would be the “other direction” to #ancestors then?
<phaul> module A ; module B; end ; end. means A and B has no relation to each other whasoever apart from B is lexically layed out in the code of A
<xco> ooooo ok now i get it
<xco> makes sense
<phaul> nice
<xco> this has nothing to do with inheritance
<xco> as would have been the case with #ancestors
<phaul> exactly
<xco> it’s just like namespacing
<xco> for this one module A ; module B; end ; end.
<xco> like “folders” nested
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<al2o3-cr> &>> module A module B module C Module.nesting end end end # xco your probably looking for this
<rubydoc> # => [A::B::C, A::B, A] (https://carc.in/#/r/6wo2)
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<al2o3-cr> by the definition of your question
<al2o3-cr> but if Module.constants is what you need, np
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<xco> al2o3-cr: no i was looking for #constants :)
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<al2o3-cr> xco: yeah, no worries ;)
<xco> thanks!
<al2o3-cr> np
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<NL3limin4t0r> Is there an easy way to get the source location of the (first) definition of a class at runtime? For methods there is `method(:some_method).source_location`. I'm looking for the same thing but for the class itself.
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<mhlei> hello everyone, my i ask the ref in `self.formats = request.formats.map(&:ref).compact ` is a user-defined method?
<mhlei> the value of the request.formats is [#<Mime::Type:0x0000000004e3a090 @hash=-4433183059252532333, @string="text/html", @symbol=:html, @synonyms=["application/xhtml+xml"]>]
<al2o3-cr> mhlei: that'll be a yes.
<mhlei> i cann't found it
<al2o3-cr> NL3limin4t0r: you could possibly use TracePoint
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<mhlei> is it in the namespace of request.formats.map? or in current namespace?
<al2o3-cr> mhlei: it should be a instance method on Mime::Type
<al2o3-cr> &>> TracePoint.trace(:class) { |tp| p [tp.path, tp.lineno] }; class X end
<rubydoc> # => ["-e", 2] (https://carc.in/#/r/6wtu)
<al2o3-cr> something along those lines could work
<mhlei> maybe, thank U, al2o3-cr
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<mhlei> &>> TracePoint.trace(Mine::Type)
<rubydoc> stderr: -e:2:in `<main>': uninitialized constant Mine (NameError) (https://carc.in/#/r/6wtv)
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<mhlei> one can use the method in Mine::Type without require it ?
<mhlei> a bit diffcult for ruby. [:smile]
<al2o3-cr> mhlei: i don't know what you're asking?
<al2o3-cr> is this rails?
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<mhlei> yes, in the actionpack gems
<mhlei> i know it now. the ref is the instance method of the `request.formats`, not in current namespace, so I can not found the require statement in current namespaces.
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<al2o3-cr> mhlei: require 'action_dispatch/http/mime_type'
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<al2o3-cr> if you've not already required it.
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<NL3limin4t0r> al2o3-cr: Thanks for the suggestion, I'll have a look.
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<al2o3-cr> NL3limin4t0r: np
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<syndikate> Is there any equivalent way of doing this in ruby? Elixir snippet: Enum.reduce(a_map, &process(&1, &2)), essentially I want to be able to pass a method into enum_with_index.map(&:process_all) where it would automatically pass the two arguments into process_all
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<ellcs> hey, how do you guys handle
<ellcs> if you have multiple os instances
<ellcs> and a gemfile.lock
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<ellcs> god, that grammar
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<syndikate> I believe it is not possible to get that syntax in ruby, but I just wanted to be sure.
<syndikate> ellcs, what do you mean by multiple os instances?
<phaul> " where it would automatically pass the two arguments " - map doesn't want to pass 2 arguments, it wants to pass 1. Do you mean inject/reduce ?
<ellcs> sorry, i want to be able to deploy on debian(old) and debian(new), to keep it simple. i am bound to system-libs and those differ on old and new.
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<phaul> &>> foo = -> (a, b) { a + b }; [1,2,3].reduce(&foo)
<rubydoc> # => 6 (https://carc.in/#/r/6wuy)
<phaul> syndikate: ^ if that's what you want
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<NL3limin4t0r> ellcs: I normaly use RVM. When using system-libs I'd check the newest versions avaible on debian(old), lock the gems on that version and on debian(new) install that specific version of the lib.
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<NL3limin4t0r> If I'm not mistaken you can specify a version in apt using `apt install your-lib -v 1.2.3`
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<NL3limin4t0r> syndikate: Alternatively if you want to reduce using an operator with two inputs you can provide a symbol.
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<NL3limin4t0r> &>> (1..6).reduce(:+)
<rubydoc> # => 21 (https://carc.in/#/r/6wvt)
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<NL3limin4t0r> Is the same as `(1..6).reduce { |sum, nr| sum + nr }`
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<havenwood> ellcs: The Gemfile is just a Ruby file, so you can use normal Ruby logic with case or if statements.
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<syndikate> NL3limin4t0r, phaul Thanks! I was using (&:custom_method) which was causing error, instead I had to use (&custom_method)
<syndikate> I used symbol
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<asat> &>> lol
<rubydoc> stderr: -e:2:in `<main>': undefined local variable or method `lol' for main:Object (NameError) (https://carc.in/#/r/6wwa)
<asat> nice~
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<IGnorAND> hello
<havenwood> IGnorAND: hi
<IGnorAND> havenwood: :) Long time no see
<IGnorAND> I have a question you might be able to answer :)
<IGnorAND> I'm trying to cut a gem and created another class. I however now get a message uninitialized constant Gemname::Gemname::ClassICreated
<IGnorAND> I'd like to read about what this means
<IGnorAND> been searching for ruby and ::
<havenwood> IGnorAND: You'll probably want to read up on how Ruby constant lookup works.
<havenwood> IGnorAND: Two blog posts come to mind, sec.
<IGnorAND> much better keywords than ruby gem cutting class which gives me lectures on how to cut stones
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<havenwood> IGnorAND: Or "Ruby Under a Microscope" has a constant lookup chapter.
<havenwood> Chapter 6: Method Lookup and Constant Lookup
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<asat> IGnorAND: i think that you want to be reading up on is "ruby namespacing"
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<IGnorAND> @asat thanks
<IGnorAND> @havenwood Thanks
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