<leitz>
Anyone have insight into how Travis-CI the company is doing? I heard they were having issues. I love having code tested there but am pretty sure I can't keep them solvent.
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<adam12>
leitz: Haven't heard anything. I moved all my OSS Ruby to Circle, for no real reason other than using the Docker images vs Travis test matrix was easier.
<adam12>
I use Gitlab CI too, which is also great. I run my own worker.
<adam12>
leitz: Most people don't get the show reference :)
<leitz>
Yeah, GitHub being bought is a thing. I haven't built the energy or "want to" to move stuff to GitLab. Is GL still using Ruby?
<leitz>
adam12, I'm old and watched some of the originals.
<adam12>
leitz: Yeah, tho their worker/runner is in Golang.
<adam12>
leitz: Pretty sure their frontend is Rails+Vue.
<leitz>
Golang is pretty cool, just not as fun for me. I'd recommend people try it out.
<adam12>
leitz: I write a mix of both, tho I definitely favour Ruby for a ton of stuff.
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<adam12>
leitz: I'm sitting here staring at the ruby 2.0 shipped with CentOS7 and longing to write this tooling in Go to skip the dependency. But Go+XML parsing is pain and Ruby+XML is bliss.
<leitz>
I finally found a programmer job (Perl) and have tried to get myself to like it. A friend recommended another look at Go for system programming and I was doing a little of that.
<leitz>
adam12, I'm of the opinion that most anything in XML is a pain. Though Nokogiri really helps.
<adam12>
leitz: I'm partial to Oga :)
<leitz>
Being able to ship a binary and no dependencies is nerdvana.
<leitz>
Haven't looked at Oga, just getting back into Ruby. Like, as of a couple hours ago. :)
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<adam12>
leitz: wb.
<adam12>
Oga has no dependency on libxml2, which admittedly has been less of an issue since nokogiri shipped with it, but it was a source of pain in the past.
<leitz>
adam12, thanks. The other way to resolve dependencies seems to be "put it on a web page". I did that with some Go code and it was nice. Well, the effect was nice, the code leaves a lot to be desired. Someone on windows says it's broken but I don't have a Winderz box to test on.
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<leitz>
Care for a funny non-Ruby story?
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<adam12>
leitz: I'm all ears, lest the mods decide it's offtopic O_O
<leitz>
They're usually pretty cool.
<leitz>
I'm a Linux guy by trade. One day the security folks come in and require us to remove libxml2 from all RHEL boxes. I shook my head and said we didn't want to do that.
<leitz>
Went back and forth but I was over ruled. Next time they told me to patch, I said. "Sorry, can't. Yum requires libxml2 and you made me remove it."
<leitz>
They listened a little more after that.
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<adam12>
LOL.
<adam12>
libxml2 definitely has it security bugs. In competition with ImageMagick, I heard.
<leitz>
I'm still in the "Apprentice Coder" stage of life, even after years of trying. Haven't gotten that deep into much.
<leitz>
Most places I've worked wait for the vendor patches.
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<adam12>
Write some more Perl and then apply retroactively for your grey-beard, I used Linux when Slackware shipped on 14 floppies badge. Bonus points if it's a web app and you deploy it to cgi-bin.
<leitz>
plbbgh...my first linux came with the book "Slackware Unleashed" and a hand me down single speed Mitsumi cdrom on a 386.
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<leitz>
That was my advanced time, I trained on teletypes and 5 bit code for my military service.
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<adam12>
Well just remember: Not being able to read yesterdays Perl isn't a sign of sinility. It's just Perl.
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<leitz>
I...uh...won't say what crosses my mind. It makes others look bad. I'm just happy to realize Ruby is still there.
<leitz>
It was funny seeing some of Ruby's roots, though.
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<adam12>
The Perl portion definitely shows through in some parts.
<leitz>
Yup. I was reading something else and I think some of the Smalltalk (?) roots showed as well. Of course, I could be off, it's been a while.
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<leitz>
My first big "get back into Ruby" project will be to break everything. I need to make some code into an actual module and convert it to a web based thingy. Last time I tried the module route ti took me two weeks to get all the tests to pass.
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<baweaver>
Yeah, it was ImageTragic
<leitz>
While I'm breaking things, is "free_trader" a decent Gem/Module name?
<leitz>
Hey baweaver!
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<leitz>
Enjoy all. Nappy time for me.
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<syndikate>
havenwood, I am creating a server of out of WebRick::HTTPServer, ( I will be looking into making use of unix sockets soon). So right now I want to write all the logs into a file. The logger should log things in detail like for example in rails app
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<Nebros>
good morning guys! i'm really new on ruby and to be honestly, i need it now only for one thing, opal. now i have installed ruby for windowsn, but how to install opal? i really can't find the way. :(
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<RougeR>
hey
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<RougeRR>
can i ask if this is bas practice
<RougeRR>
def ping
<RougeRR>
; @client.ping rescue false
<RougeRR>
; end
<RougeRR>
bad*
<RougeRR>
ignore the horrific styling, i was trying to show it on one line
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<RougeRR>
i dont have control over the @client code and it raises an exception when the client is not pingab;e
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<bougyman>
It's a dep in an app I'm taking over. Any "standard" replacement for it?
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<Nebros>
i'm really new on ruby and to be honestly, i need it now only for opal. i have installed ruby for windows, but how to install opal? i really can't find the way.
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<havenwood>
Nebros: Opal is a gem. Once you've installed Ruby, you can: gem install opal
<havenwood>
Nebros: On Windows, you can install Ruby with the RubyInstaller for Windows, with the Chocolatey package manager or with the Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL).
<havenwood>
bad variable naming there ^, I meant `a` not `n`.
<xco>
aaaaaa
<xco>
got it!
<xco>
ok got it
<havenwood>
xco: The idea behind it being a list of lists is that you can add a new category to categories and it'll *just work* without changing any logic
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<xco>
right
<xco>
the next question is about next :P
<havenwood>
xco: you could alternatively write that: next(count + 1)
<xco>
the next there is like “skip if the following condition is not true?”?
<xco>
no no no
<havenwood>
xco: yes, onto the next iteration
<xco>
i’m talking about the keyword “next”
<xco>
i know about Integer#next
<havenwood>
ah, you can pass the keyword the return value for the current iteration, and it'll go right onto the next
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<xco>
havenwood: i discovered something intereting
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<PettanShoutaKun>
I open a connection with the RestClient::get() method and stuff.... but I noticed it like... doesn't close? Do I manually have to close it? Can I? I just want to make sure this connection doesn't stay open.
<PettanShoutaKun>
I feel like maybe I'm being super dumb or confused about what the RestClient actually is/does
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<standardname>
Hey... I'm inheriting a large project that was written in Ruby
<standardname>
I've never used Ruby
<standardname>
What resources do you all recommend to get up to speed
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<Iambchop>
standardname: there's a list of books linked from the channel topic: https://goo.gl/wpGhoQ