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<nakilon> xpitr oh, that's the nature of ! methods standard
<nakilon> they are supposed to change the object in place
<nakilon> non-pure, mutating
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<havenwood> A bang means *more* dangerous than the non-bang version, at least according to Matz.
<havenwood> Several in the stdlib are more dangerous because they mutate the receiver and the non-bang version doesn't.
<havenwood> It can also mean something dangerous other than mutation.
<weaksauce> or in rails throw an exception
<weaksauce> instead of fail with a nil ret val
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<nakilon> ruby != rails
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<phaul> &renick
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<rubydoc> okay
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<Guest3727> gem sources -a https://rubygems.org/
<Guest3727> Error fetching https://rubygems.org/:
<Guest3727> timed out (https://rubygems.org/specs.4.8.gz)
<Guest3727> please help
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<adam12> Guest3727: Can you curl it manually? `curl -i https://rubygems.org/`
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<Guest3727> adam12: with curl yes, with wget no
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<adam12> Guest3727: What about wget -4? Is it possible it’s IPv6 related?
<Guest3727> adam12: maybe
<Guest3727> adam12: -4 works
<adam12> Sounds like curl has happy eyeballs and wget might not.
<Guest3727> but worst is gem lol....
<Guest3727> how do I fix it
<adam12> Guest3727: Do you have a routable ipv6 address on the machine?
<adam12> Guest3727: There’s ongoing work for happy eyeballs in Ruby but I’m not sure of the status.
<Guest3727> LOL
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<adam12> Hmm.
<adam12> Guest3727: Can you ping6 rubygems.org?
<Guest3727> adam12: nope
<adam12> Guest3727: ping6 google.com
<Guest3727> adam12: nope
<adam12> Guest3727: So it’s not just isolated to Rubygems then.
<Guest3727> adam12: so its just a gaylord situation with ipv6
<adam12> Guest3727: Well it sounds like you might have a broken IPv6 setup. If you can’t ping6 rubygems, I’d say maybe it was Rubygems, but if you can’t ping Google, it’s more widespread.
<adam12> Guest3727: there’s a flag for `gem` that will enable fallback. I’m not sure what version it’s in.
<adam12> Guest3727: echo ":ipv4_fallback_enabled: true” >> ~/.gemrc
<adam12> Might not be in your version of `gem`, going by this issue: https://github.com/rubygems/rubygems/pull/2662
<Guest3727> the -a flag worked
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<Guest3727> (now)
<Guest3727> I will try installing a pkg
<Guest3727> gem --version
<Guest3727> 3.2.5
<Guest3727> Unable to download data from https://rubygems.org/ - timed out (https://rubygems.org/specs.4.8.gz)
<Guest3727> nope
<adam12> Guest3727: There’s probably a few possible fixes but they aren’t necessary Ruby related. I’d first start talking to your provider about why IPV6 is broken.
<adam12> Guest3727: From there, you could always install your own DNS server like dnsmasq and maybe force only A records for rubygems.org.
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<adam12> Guest3727: And the nuclear option being, disable ipv6 on that machine. But I wouldn’t do that personal.y.
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<Guest3727> adam12: I could add a line to /etc/hosts
<Guest3727> what is this garbage's ipv4 addr? 151.101.2.132?
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<Guest3727> adam12: can I download packages from somewhere and install them manually then?
<adam12> Guest3727: Sure. gem install <package>.gem works just fine.
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<Guest3727> adam12: lol where to get the packages from, thats what I was asking
<Guest3727> spotted the very obscure and hidden "download" link
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<adam12> Guest3727: I’m not sure how I follow it being hidden and obscure, but you seem to have a chip on your shoulder about Rubygems and I’m not sure if I can help with that.
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<jwr> I'm seeing that rbenv has created a couple directories along the lines of this: /usr/local/rbenv/versions/2.6.6/lib/ruby/gems/2.6.0/cache. 2.6.6 is obviously the version of ruby that we're using. what does 2.6.0 represent there?
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<havenwood> jwr: The ABI number.
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