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<swills>
woot, i have gem-testers.org code running locally
<lmarburger>
raggi: i'm probably going to be working on some bundler-api issues friday. has there been any progress on the new index format?
<lmarburger>
i'm only asking because i'm trying to gauge how much effort to put into query tuning if the database is going to be obviated shortly.
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<reset>
experiencing a 500 error when attempting to upload gems via gem push. Nothing on the status page about it or on twitter. Is this a known problem right now?
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<kseifried>
assuming the github people are the same people, just ask them nicely?
<kseifried>
if not the same people do you say "ok, wow, you're a much better steward, so we'll hand it over to you"?
<drbrain>
the owners are DHH and Jeremy Kemper
<kseifried>
right
<kseifried>
so do we reach out to them ala fedora and ask if they're still alive/interested?
<drbrain>
it looks to me that this was very purposefully abandoned
<drbrain>
there's only two commits in that repository
<kseifried>
hrmm yeah just noticed that
<kseifried>
wtf is up here
<kseifried>
so on rubygems it's extremely dead
<kseifried>
and on github mostly dead
<kseifried>
like fedora has a specific process to deal with this, sounds like there isn't one in this case?
<drbrain>
I don't think that repository is the correct one, google indicates there are other forks
<drbrain>
honestly, this has only come up a couple times
<drbrain>
it seems most times an interested party reaches out to the current maintainer separately
<kseifried>
hrmm yeah
<kseifried>
since we use this I'd sort of like to sort out which one we should be using
<kseifried>
e.g. which one is most likely to be updated/maintained
<kseifried>
drbrain, : so I guess I reach out to all the various versions, invite them to my private island, give them all a 30 minute headstart and then hunt them, the last one left is what we use?
<drbrain>
kseifried: yes
<drbrain>
I would email the rails core team and ask them about the gem
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<kseifried>
ok
<kseifried>
also like say ezcrypto
<kseifried>
makes me nervous, not updated since 2009
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<kseifried>
my one thought is I think rubygems is generally seen as the authoritative source, so situations like this make things quite messym, plus now I sort of wonder about all the other gems
<kseifried>
which is to be expected I suppose
<drbrain>
yeah
* kseifried
was hoping you had pet unicorns and magic "just make it work" powder
<drbrain>
technically I have access to the DB which allows me to alter permissions
<drbrain>
I have no idea how to do that, though
<kseifried>
yah
<kseifried>
no this needs to be done with concensus
<kseifried>
I would reccomend a fedora style approach
<kseifried>
"hi are you dead/still interested"
<kseifried>
if they are alive but refuse to be a good steward then it gets escalated
<kseifried>
and ultimately it can be done as appointing a new co maintainer to push out secrity updates
<drbrain>
there are also gems that still work just fine but haven't been updated
<kseifried>
yah
<drbrain>
like my net-http-pipeline
<kseifried>
or like a fedora package can be assigned to someone new entirely
<drbrain>
it only took 50 commits or so to get all the bugs out
<kseifried>
yeah I just worry because a lot of the gems we use handle user supplied data
<kseifried>
so atack vectors galore
* drbrain
nods
<kseifried>
wow my typing not so good
<kseifried>
so right now I'm just assigning rough risk to these things, what's really dead/etc
<kseifried>
like some are really old but probably ok like a simple date manipulator
<kseifried>
but some that eat network data and haven't been maintained in 5 years, eeek =)
<kseifried>
the joy of red hat is we write like <5% of the code we ship and support =)
<drbrain>
yeah
<drbrain>
rubygems.org is a slightly different space where we (the stewards) could run into legal issues if we hand the keys of a project off to someone else
<kseifried>
yah
<kseifried>
hence concensus
<kseifried>
I suspect 90+% of cases will be "yeah, totally hand it off, I don't wanna do this anymore"
<kseifried>
the other 10%, good luck with that ;P
<drbrain>
there was a case where we asked the author then they made some commits and a release
<kseifried>
nice
<kseifried>
yeah sometimes people just need a bump
<kseifried>
like expat
<kseifried>
did a release after what, 5 years when I poked him a bunch
<kseifried>
I think it was expat
<kseifried>
maybe something else
<kseifried>
anyways it all worked out nicely
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<kseifried>
drbrain: ideally I'd like to see rubygems.org be _the_ authoritative source
<kseifried>
be sooo nice to have the one true depot
<kseifried>
but I can live without it, but I bet other people are less diligent :P
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