drbrain changed the topic of #rubygems to: RubyGems 2.0.6: http://bit.ly/rubygems-2-0-6 – Latest status: http://twitter.com/rubygems_status and http://status.rubygems.org
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<indirect> evan: looks like the last broken gems are Dextery-0.0.2 and dextery-0.0.1
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<RickHull> drbrain: i have a silly idea. it's a pet peeve of mine about name-squatting. e.g. DNS, or even rubygems
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<RickHull> right now, revoking name ownership is opt-in, which admittedly makes a lot of sense from many perspectives
<RickHull> but, what if a project submits a petition for a name, and that petition is answered by a commit or release within 12 months
<RickHull> i.e. a way to hoover out dormant / abandoned projects
<RickHull> at some point, i would think, it becomes advantageous to namesquat rubygems
<RickHull> just so jones across the street doesn't do it first. arms-race style
<RickHull> so choose a reasonable timeframe. 12-60 months, say i lean more towards 12
<RickHull> any diehard namesquatter can trivially foil the system, of course
<RickHull> but it would be so potentially shameful to do so, I figure, that it wouldn't be a problem in practice
<RickHull> and maybe some jerseys get retired, no longer needing active commits/releases
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<cool> hello everyone
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<drbrain> RickHull: evan proposed that idea via `gem claim`
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<RickHull> cool, well i'm good for an aye
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<indirect> evan: ping
<evan> der pong!
<evan> is mine!
<indirect> it seems fixed!
<evan> er
<indirect> except for one gem
<evan> iz mine!
<indirect> haha
<evan> which?
<indirect> dextery 0.0.1
<evan> ok
<indirect> and maybe Dextery 0.0.2
<evan> I think I forgot to yank it.
<evan> one sec.
<indirect> np
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<indirect> so there are yanked gems that can't have their gemspecs downloaded?
<indirect> I was under the impression that gem install -v XXX was supposed to installed yanked gems
<evan> nope
<evan> they're not in the index
<indirect> oh, interesting. okay
<indirect> you have to download them from rubygems.org and then run gem install local.gem I assume
<indirect> and for these gems the download link is n/a
<evan> yeah
<evan> I could delete them fully too
<evan> ok, I yanked dextery 0.0.1
<evan> and Dextery is gone entirely.
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<evan> index being republished now.
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<indirect> evan: sweet, thanks!
<evan> no prob
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<imperator> are we downcasing all gems yet?
<evan> no
<evan> and we won't.
<imperator> why's that?
<evan> thats rude
<evan> if someone wants to name their gem ZenWeb
<imperator> it's practical
<evan> I don't have a good reason they shouldn't be able to
<evan> the current rules allow for it
<evan> and are still practical
<evan> basically, we lookup case insensitive
<evan> but the case is set by the gem initially
<drbrain> so case-preserving
<evan> right.
<imperator> i've seen the well get poisoned in perl-land
<evan> how so?
<imperator> people releasing modules with same name, different case
<evan> we don't allow that anymore.
<imperator> oh? good
<imperator> ok, concerns addressed!
<evan> yeah, thats what i'm saying.
<evan> yay!
<drbrain> hrm, `gem outdated` is unbelievably slow
<drbrain> no top of that, it seems to be duplicating its own work
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<drbrain> I removed the duplication and improved the feedback of `gem outdated` by adding a new enumerator method
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<drbrain> wow, a whole minute faster!
<drbrain> for 244 gems
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<edelgado> is it possible to run more than one version of rubygems? I'm trying to run an old 2.3.4 rails app, but it expects rubygems version 1.3.5. I have a much newer version installed.
<drbrain> edelgado: you can install rubygems to a separate prefix and run ruby with a load path pointing to the separate install
<edelgado> Ok, thanks for the tip. I'll investigate how that is done. It makes sense.
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<drbrain> edelgado: ruby setup.rb --prefix=/some/path
<drbrain> then you can export RUBYLIB=/some/path/lib
<drbrain> if you want to share gems set GEM_HOME and GEM_PATH to your regular rubygems values
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<edelgado> Cool, I'll give that a try. Thanks, I appreciate it.
<drbrain> `gem env home` and `gem env path`
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drbrain changed the topic of #rubygems to: RubyGems 2.1.0.rc.1: http://bit.ly/rubygems-2-1-0-rc-1 – Latest status: http://twitter.com/rubygems_status and http://status.rubygems.org
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