<ryanf>
drbrain: cool. it might also be worth pointing out that the net-http-persistent convention will work automatically with bundler (if the require is net/http/persistent)
<drbrain>
ryanf: I don't know much about bundler, so can you create a pull request?
<ryanf>
it might also be good to reassure people that mixing -s and _s is the right thing to do in the case where you have a multi-word extension to an existing gem
<drbrain>
ryanf: awesome!
<drbrain>
oh yes, good point
<ryanf>
sometimes people freak out about gem names like "pry-exception_explorer"
<ryanf>
even though that is the right way to go under these conventions
<drbrain>
I can add the pry-extension_explorer example
<ryanf>
hmm, actually that's kind of a bad example, because he didn't follow the directory structure or constant naming conventions
<ryanf>
I'm sure there are other good ones though
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<ryanf>
will let you know if I see any
<ryanf>
on the other hand, I guess if you're just putting it in a list then the details aren't that important
<drbrain>
I think I have a gem that uses - and _
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<drbrain>
ah, right, net-http-digest_auth
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<drbrain>
there are 388 gems with - following _
<drbrain>
1286 the other way around
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<ryanf>
the main reason that happened is that I kind of wanted to be consistent about showing the relationship between the different conventions in each case
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<drbrain>
ryanf: I like the single table version quite a lot
<ryanf>
ok cool, I'll open a pull
<ryanf>
any other feedback first?
<drbrain>
be sure the table looks ok locally
<drbrain>
I'm unsure if guides.rubygems.org has styles for a table
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<ryanf>
I tried sticking it in in chrome and it looks ok. it's a little narrow, but it has reasonably good-looking styles
<pcarrier>
I cannot get those gems even though they appear in the index.
<pcarrier>
any idea why?
<pcarrier>
(they 404)
<drbrain>
evan: ↑
<drbrain>
pcarrier: we had some gems get temporarily lost last week
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<drbrain>
evan knows what went on
<pcarrier>
drbrain: tbh I don't care about those gems at all. I do care about gems in the index 404ing, so should I report this somewhere? :0
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<drbrain>
you can report it on github.com/rubygems/rubygems.org
<drbrain>
it may be related to last weeks problems
<drbrain>
the gems were in the index but not downloadable
<ryanf>
do you guys have stats about what percentage of installs for a given gem are on ruby 1.8?
<drbrain>
ryanf: I don't think we have per-gem
<ryanf>
oh, ok. I guess you have overall though?
<drbrain>
yes
<ryanf>
is that on the web somewhere?
<ryanf>
we were just talking earlier about when to drop 1.8 support for pry
<drbrain>
evan knows how to extract them
<drbrain>
I keep meaning to make him teach me how to do it
<ryanf>
oh, ok, whatever
<ryanf>
np
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<tbuehlmann>
declaring development dependencies in a gemspec is just useful when using bundler or installing the gem with the --dev option, right? I don't have any advantages when I fork a gem project from github which doesn't have a Gemfile, so it looks
<mjc_>
is making a native extension still the recommended/only way to specify different versions of gems depending on the ruby version the installee is using?
<mjc_>
I'm lost otherwise
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<imperator>
by ruby version, do you mean platform?
<imperator>
or are you talking about binaries for different versions of ruby?
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<mjc_>
activemerchant added a dependency on nokogiri < 1.6.0 to fix ruby 1.8 about a month ago and it broke newer rubies - I'm wanting to submit a patch that will use ~> 1.6.0 by default and < 1.6.0 specifically for 1.8
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<mjc_>
imperator: it seems that it needs to be done at gem install time
<imperator>
couldn't bundler be used for this?
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<mjc_>
whoops
<mjc_>
imperator: I don't see how
<mjc_>
imperator: would activemerchant have to tell its 1.8 users to add nokogiri < 1.6.0 to their gemfile?
<mjc_>
sounds strange
<mjc_>
imperator: anyway right now gem install activemerchant pulls in an old nokogiri and a bunch of old deps as a result of this, it should probably not do that
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<mjc_>
and an old activemerchant, too
<mjc_>
er sorry
<mjc_>
and using bundler currently I get an old activemerchant because other things require newer nokogiri
<mjc_>
it's a mess
<imperator>
dunno what you can do
<imperator>
sorry
<mjc_>
I'm trying the solution in the link, since it seems like it used to work. I suppose people on 1.8.x probably have an older rubygems that might not be able to use any newer method if one exists anyway
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<mjc_>
now I'm fighting with it to pick up the extension config
<tjbiddle>
drbrain: Yeah - My issue was pretty isolated - I have 2 internal gems, one of which defined an executable - Now I'm merging them and I wanted the new gem to conflict with the old executable. But no worries, can just tell folks to remove the old one manually if it's an issue.
<drbrain>
tjbiddle: two gems installing the same executable will show a warning at install time
<tjbiddle>
drbrain: Hm, didn't run into an error with that. I'll re-test later. Thanks!
<tjbiddle>
I probably just goofed on something.
<drbrain>
tjbiddle: I think you need RubyGems 2
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<tjbiddle>
drbrain: Ah, nifty :-)
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<frotto>
i am looking for developers interested to work on a startup project, if anyone is interested please let me know
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