drbrain changed the topic of #rubygems to: RubyGems 2.1.11: http://bit.ly/rubygems-2-1-11 CVE-2013-4363: http://bit.ly/CVE-2013-4363 - Latest status: http://twitter.com/rubygems_status and http://status.rubygems.org
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<mpapis> drbrain, maybe make a transition with GEM_HOME_SHARED and your code, so it can be tested in 2.2 and if it works well then just remove GEM_HOME_SHARED variable and use Gem.home
<mpapis> btw. what is the status for https://github.com/rubygems/rubygems/pull/590 ?
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<shevy> Is there a way to remove my old account from rubygems.org? I used to have the nick "shevegen" but stopped using it a while ago. https://rubygems.org/gems/ansi_colours is my old account, which I would like to see removed (https://rubygems.org/profiles/shevegen), my new one is here https://rubygems.org/profiles/shevy
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<kanobe> So I have an app that I wrote, packaged as a rubygem and it has plugin support. I wanted to package the plugins as separate gems. What is the recommended way using rubygems for the main app to find the plugins?
<kanobe> Is it standard to have the plugin gems install into the main app's gem's install directory?
<kanobe> Or should the main app query rubygems to determine what plugins are installed?
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<stevenharman> You could use a Gemfile, I suppose.
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<drbrain> kanobe: Gem.find_files
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<dwwoelfel> Seeing a couple more Bundler::Fetcher::CertificateFailureError: errors
<dwwoelfel> once for prawn-layout (0.2.0.1)
<dwwoelfel> and once for whois (3.1.3)
<dwwoelfel> Those happended about 15 minutes ago.
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<dwradcliffe> dwwoelfel: do you know what host caused the error? rubygems.org s3 or fastly?
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<samkottler> dwradcliffe: AFAIK you can't hit s3 directly anymore
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<samkottler> fastly would cover up the error
<dwradcliffe> ah, true
<samkottler> dwradcliffe: I wonder if these issues from the last few weeks are because of SSL verification issues between s3 and fastly, though
<kanobe> drbrain: Ah cool! That looks like what I need
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<mchung> samkottler: dwradcliffe can you elaborate on SSL verification issues?
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<samkottler> dwradcliffe++
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<carols10cents> fastly seems to be having issues...
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<dwradcliffe> yeah, I'm seeing it too
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<dwradcliffe> lmarburger: ping
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<pizzahead> fastly cdn not responding on ssl?
<dwradcliffe> pizzahead: fastly seems to be down at the moment :(
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<carols10cents> their status page is pretty fantastic right now http://status.fastly.com/
<carols10cents> and by fantastic i mean :cry:
<dwradcliffe> yeah
<pizzahead> I was able to drop https and can retrieve gems
<dwradcliffe> working again for me
<pizzahead> yes they are responding now, thanks
<pizzahead> rubygems being served up from django? :)
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<drbrain> I thought evan disabled fastly earlier this week
<evan> it got reenabled
<drbrain> OK
<evan> I did it manually beacuse I was waiting for whoever that was to tell me it was working
<evan> never heard back
<evan> but I guess it must have worked
<drbrain> (I don't pay attention to these things)
<evan> i'm disabling it for reals now.
<drbrain> my last spec came from S3 and last gem from bb-m.rubygems.org
<drbrain> si I was confused
<drbrain> so
<evan> thats still in the mix
<evan> 20% of traffic goes to bb-m
<evan> lmarburger: fastly is off
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<evan> lmarburger: and i'm not going to turn it back on until we get traction on the 503 problem from them.
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<pizzahead> random 503's?
<bbrowning> evan: I thought I reported back? :)
<evan> what was the report?
<evan> i didn't see any report
<bbrowning> evan: our builds all passed with fastly disabled when they usually fail
<evan> ok
<evan> I figured that was the report when I didn't hear :)
<pizzahead> if it matters we just had multiple deployments that seemed to be ok with fastly after the ssl issue was resolved
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<evan> pizzahead: ok
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<pizzahead> I was watching the october meeting, great stuff being a devops guy, I was just curious why services like pagerduty , pingdom, datadog (paid for services) is preferred over running your own system (ie. combination of nagios and graphite etc.). Is it strictly not having to roll your own and maintain it that offsets the cost?
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<evan> pizzahead: exactly
<evan> we're a volunteer effort
<evan> and we've got cash to pay for those services
<evan> so it's better to use them
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<pizzahead> I don't know why it is but it's so hard for me to not be automatically dismissive when it comes to off loading tasks that I traditionally take care of in house and that's just not how things are being done these days. It's not like it's even a money issue where I am but I still feel dirty even thinking about saas.
<drbrain> pizzahead: I have that feel about personal sysadmin duties
<drbrain> for example, I host my own mail
<pizzahead> I felt so dirty moving my past two companies to google apps but I love it
<pizzahead> that's a beast that frees up so much more time for me to work on other things
<drbrain> ↑ yup
<pizzahead> so I guess I need to look at monitoring and alerting the same way
<pizzahead> a medium aws instance is going to run you 500-1000 at least a year anyway
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<shevy> hmm when I have a Gem::Specification object, # => #<Gem::Specification:0x497986c RBT-0.0.1>
<shevy> is there a way to get back all of its dependencies, in array form?
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<drbrain> shevy: spec.dependencies
<shevy> ah cool, that responds to #each, thanks drbrain
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