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<lkthomas> hey guys
<lkthomas> does rubygems have any mirror ?
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<indirect> yes
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<arthurnn> hi all...
<arthurnn> wondering what is holding rubygems to upgrade to newer rails and ruby versions ? .. here to help to work on those
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<arthurnn> specially ruby version upgrades... any particular reason we tried to upgrade to 2.0.0 and it didnt work? or something?
<havenwood> arthurnn: So you installed Ruby 2.0 and now you're having trouble updating gems? Or something else?
<arthurnn> nonono ... i am asking why rubygems.org is not runing on ruby 2.x ?
<arthurnn> looking for more context about why the upgrade didnt happen... and offering my help to upgrade.
<havenwood> arthurnn: aha!
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<arthurnn> havenwood: do you know why??? I see there is a rails4 branch ... but dont know what is the state on it.
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<havenwood> arthurnn: no, i don't know any details
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<arthurnn> when do we usually deploy rubygems.org ? I see the production branch last commit is from Sep 2013 .... do we still use that branch ?
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<arthurnn> also, why do we use rubygems 1.8 on rubygems.org ?? any particular reason for that?
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<yakko> dwradcliffe: hey man, do you think Tim might be available some time this week?
<dwradcliffe> yakko: Tim?
<yakko> dwradcliffe: if you remember me, I am the one who asked for a gem name on Saturday, you added Tim to the thread but he hasn't replied
<dwradcliffe> yakko: Ah right, sorry. I don't know Tim. I just added the email on the account.
<yakko> dwradcliffe: oh, thanks for that :) do you develop on Rails at all?
<dwradcliffe> I do
<yakko> dwradcliffe: my gem proposal brings sudo mode and multiple devices to rails developers, if you'd like to take a look at the demo app :) https://bit.ly/hellogem
<yakko> dwradcliffe: again, thanks for the quick response on Saturday, cheers :)
<dwradcliffe> cool, I'll take a look when I have a chance.
<dwradcliffe> also, someone will eventually follow up on the help ticket. We're all busy and short-staffed :/
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<yakko> dwradcliffe: explain something to me if you may
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<yakko> dwradcliffe: who actually takes care of rubygems?
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<havenwood> yakko: MD5 isn't encryption. You'd be as well off using Pig Latin: https://github.com/hi/hello/blob/master/app/models/credential.rb#L5
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<yakko> havenwood: I'm well aware, after running generator it let's you choose, I'm just pro-choice :)
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<havenwood> yakko: MD5 isn't a choice. It is insanity. Give a choice of bcrypt or pbkdf2 if you want a choice. :)
<havenwood> yakko: Pig Latin would be a better choice, because no one would mistake it for something secure.
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<havenwood> yakko: But really, don't put the md5 checksum of plaintext passwords in your db or make that available as a choice.
<yakko> havenwood: the gem will not be delivered to public suggesting a hash as an encryption
<yakko> havenwood: it's just that I haven't had the time to make up my mind on bcrypt, scrypt or pbkdf2
<havenwood> yakko: Fine choices. You just scare me with MD5. :P
<dwradcliffe> yakko: a group of volunteers, with support from Ruby Central
<yakko> havenwood: MD5 used in a context of hashsing elsewhere :) https://github.com/hi/hello/blob/master/app/models/concerns/hello/credential_model/password.rb#L48
<havenwood> yakko: The method name is a lie. :P
<yakko> havenwood: it is :D
<yakko> dwradcliffe: thanks for the info and for the help on getting me that name :)
<dwradcliffe> yakko: no prob. hope we can get it sorted eventually :)
<yakko> havenwood: and thank you for the method name, I'm such a liar :D
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<drbrain> arthurnn: I think rubygems.org uses 1.8 due to API changes in rubygems 2.x that haven't been accounted for
<drbrain> arthurnn: ultimately, lake of time or interest in upgrading when 1.8.x already works
<arthurnn> ok.. good to know.. i have time and interest in upgrading.. so I can work on that.
<arthurnn> also, I wanted to work on ruby, and rails upgrades... i see there is a rails4 branch going on already... but would like to talk to whoever is working on it, to get a sense of what is left..
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<drbrain> I don't follow rubygems.org development so I'm unsure who to ask about that (I guess the commit log will say?)
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<arthurnn> drbrain: thats what i was look at.. commits =) ... anyways, I sent 2 PRs today to make a few small fixes... will work forward after those are merged.
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