<ocdtrekkie>
I spent $23 to cast a vote for Apache.
<patrickod>
possible noob question alert: couldn't you theoretically sign away the rights granted to you the user by the AGPL in an employment contract or such?
<ocdtrekkie>
Oh well, still a good cause I suppose.
<paulproteus>
!nolog patrickod: Yeah, I think that internal use of AGPL-ware wouldn't even count as distribution, but I am most definitely not a lawyer so please pretend I didn't write that.
<paulproteus>
If people want specific opinions about FSF licenses consider asking your lawyer and/or the FSF licensing volunteers.
<ocdtrekkie>
I was really hoping Mailpile having a permissive license would raise the bar for email clients that aren't Gmail everywhere.
<ocdtrekkie>
Guess we have to hope Roundcube Next does that instead.
<ocdtrekkie>
Hey guys, is Sandstorm having :issues: or is it just me?
<ocdtrekkie>
Alpha server is getting me a lot of not founds.
<ocdtrekkie>
Could just be my own network being terrible today.
<paulproteus>
ocdtrekkie: iiinteresting
<paulproteus>
I think there was a code push today, so "anything's possible"
<paulproteus>
I think the correct email address is support at sandstorm.io if you need email. If you have links etc. I can diagnose, give me a link.
<zarvox>
I don't seem to have any issues with my grains on Alpha at the moment, but I'm given to understand Cloudflare had some DNS issues https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/
<zarvox>
But those should be resolved now.
<paulproteus>
Also I think I < 3 CloudFlare a little less than kentonv does.
<ocdtrekkie>
I was hit a not found for alpha.sandstorm.io, refreshed a couple times, then got it.
<ocdtrekkie>
Then opened a grain and got a not found.
<ocdtrekkie>
Refreshed and then it came up.
<ocdtrekkie>
Went to open another grain, got a not found, refreshed again and it came up.
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stretches.
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<ocdtrekkie>
paulproteus : I am not sure where I'll be working that week.
<paulproteus>
Yeah, such is life.
<ocdtrekkie>
I guess registration is only one day before though?
<ocdtrekkie>
If I end up working near a Metra line that week and can get permission to leave my car then it might be possible.
<kentonv>
You can actually append /paste/blah to the share link
<kentonv>
but we should improve the UI so that you don't need to manually edit URLs
<kentonv>
otoh, shouldn't each paste be a separate instance?
<paulproteus>
Yes in theory re: each paste separate instance, but that introduces a bunch of (imho) clunkiness into the UI.
<paulproteus>
I'm about to get off CalTrain though but can think more about it once I arrive at the "office".
<paulproteus>
Also kentonv you may have to call me in for the first 5 min of the call, sorry about that. Will try to get there as quickly as possible.
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<paulproteus>
BTW, jparyani kentonv dwrensha zarvox I said that zerobin (by Seb Sauvage) maybe stored all the data client-side. That was false, fwiw. http://sebsauvage.net/wiki/doku.php?id=php:zerobin
<kentonv>
paulproteus: yes, though if you put cloudflare in front you can have it serve from cache
<paulproteus>
kentonv: gotcha, that's a sensible idea re: cloudflare
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<paulproteus>
zarvox: One hack-y thing you could do for now, which might be the best thing, is to make a reasonable guess for the size, and use a CSS animation so that when the iframe's height does change, at least there's some semi-reasonable animation rather than the page suddenly bouncing around.
<paulproteus>
It's also interesting that it _should_ be possible to calculate that size before the round-trip.
<paulproteus>
If the offer template is: "Use {{whatever}} to do thingamabob" then you could have some JS that:
<paulproteus>
(1) Makes an IFRAME with a data URI that is the string, pre-filled-in with a placeholder value of whatever with the right size
<paulproteus>
(2) Never display that to the user, but use it to calculate the scrollHeight
<paulproteus>
(3) Create the IFRAME element with the height set to the scrollHeight for (1), and
<paulproteus>
(4) when the real IFRAME loads, fix up the height if for some reason it's different.
<paulproteus>
That should, I think, avoid a flash of unstyled content.
<paulproteus>
So long as the client side knows the contents of the template, this is pretty feasible I think, even if it's semi-ridiculous.
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<XgF>
paulproteus: My experience is that on modern browsers, if you do the iframe thing correctly and serve the content quickly enough, they'll execute your JavaScript before the render