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<kentonv> big etherpad update just went out!
<biotim> nice! the avatar thing is cool
<kentonv> thanks!
<kentonv> also the underlines don't flicker anymore!
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<frew> anyone know if the wordpress app works for the sandstorm hosted version?
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<kentonv> frew: yes, all apps on the market work on Oasis.
<frew> kentonv: no the android market
<frew> kentonv: like the piwik android app can't work with the sandstorm hosted piwik
<kentonv> oh, I didn't know there was a wordpress android app
<frew> ya
<frew> faster for low badwidth devices etcx
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<kentonv> is it for administering your site from your phone?
<kentonv> my guess is that it won't work. :/
<frew> yeah same, but wanted to ask
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<WantToBuySandsto> Question: If I choose the own-hosted version - all data in applications will be keep at my server?
<kentonv> WantToBuySandsto: yes
<WantToBuySandsto> thanks =)
<WantToBuySandsto> Question: Now application is not work =(. In my admin panel have a message WARNING: This server seems to have its WILDCARD_HOST misconfigured. Until you fix it, you will not be able to use any apps. You can read more info in the Sandstorm docs and in your browser's Javascript console. You'll need to adjust DNS, SSL/TLS certificates, or edit the san
<WantToBuySandsto> dstorm.conf file. If you see no information in the JS console, or wish to test if you have fixed the problem, reload this page to re-run the test. If you're still having problems, please file an issue.
<WantToBuySandsto> I register sandstorm under my hostname
<WantToBuySandsto> What I must to do now?
<kentonv> did you configure a wildcard DNS entry?
<WantToBuySandsto> No I don't know what is this.
<kentonv> you need to register something like *.sandstorm.mydomain.com, in addition to sandstorm.mydomain.com
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<WantToBuySandsto> if I will be use sandcats.io domain I still be have a same problems?
<kentonv> no, if you use sandcats this is handled automatically
<WantToBuySandsto> Ok. Thanks!
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<WantToBuySandsto> Question: If developers close this project - my own-hosted server also stop working?
<kentonv> WantToBuySandsto: What do you mean by "developers close this project"?
<kentonv> do you mean, if Sansdtorm.io shuts down?
<kentonv> your server does not depend on us to keep running. If we as a company disappeared your server would continue to work fine.
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<WantToBuySandsto> нуы
<WantToBuySandsto> yes
<kentonv> and Sandstorm is open source so we actually can't take it away even if we wanted to
<WantToBuySandsto> ok. thanks =)
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<WantToBuySandsto> Question: If i make an aplication shared link somebody - this link can be shared many times? How I can disable this link? If I disable this link - everybody lose connection of this shared document or not?
<kentonv> you can disable the link by going to "share access -> see who has access (at the bottom)" and deleting the link
<kentonv> everyone who got access through the link will lose access
<kentonv> if you share to people by e-mail address, each person will get a different link
<WantToBuySandsto> And if I share via link, but for registered user. And this user choose - take this via registered name, he also lose access or not?
<kentonv> yes, the will still lose access if you revoke the link. We always remember how people got access.
<kentonv> however, we plan to improve this later. We want it to be that when you revoke a link that people used to get access, Sandstorm then asks you whether you want those people to keep access or not.
<kentonv> but that's not done yet so for now they lose access. You'll need to share with them again.
<WantToBuySandsto> If I make a user invite link - this link work only one time?
<WantToBuySandsto> or I can send it for all my users?
<kentonv> the user invite link is one-time
<kentonv> that is the ones you make at /admin/users/invite
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<kentonv> (I am heading to bed now but I'll be back tomorrow.)
<WantToBuySandsto> thanks you. see u later =)
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<WantToBuySandsto> Question: If I have admin account, can I take ownership of not my own grains?
<WantToBuySandsto> And how I can see what kind documents my users make in my server in case if user not share this gains with me?
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<r4t3l> hi... does anyone know if its possible to find out what email you used when you signed up for a sandcats domain, because i must've use a throwaway one and apparently i need it to recover my subdomain
<r4t3l> i r unsmart
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<cr_> Hello! I ran into an issue while trying to install Sandstorm. Ubuntu 16.04.1, kernel 4.4, bare metal - after requesting the certificate, I got chmod: cannot access 'var/sandcats/https/subdomain.sandcats.io/0.response-json': No such file or directory
<cr_> After which the install just bails out. It's already registered a subdomain for me. Where do I go from here?
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<cr_> It didn't even install the sandstorm command, so I can't follow the uninstall instructions :\
<cr_> Alright, so I saved off /opt/sandstorm/var and then removed /opt/sandstorm and tried to reinstall.
<cr_> I recovered my subdomain (it wasn't obvious that you could do this from the installer; you have to ask for help when it asks for the subdomain and then it tells you about recovery) and now it's installed. How strange that it didn't work the first time.
<cr_> Aaand I guess I have to set up port forwarding at my router to get sandcats.io to work.
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<cr_> And now it's working.
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<WantToBuySandsto> If I have admin account, can I take ownership of not my own grains?
<WantToBuySandsto> And how I can see what kind documents my users make in my server in case if user not share this gains with me?
<WantToBuySandsto> WantToBuySandsto
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<samba_> helo!
<samba_> I've some issue when I try to send an invite to a shared grain in sandstorm
<samba_> I'd like to do some troubleshooting in order to understand what's going on
<samba_> from the log I can't see if the email is sent
<samba_> sandstorm, syslog, maillog
<samba_> any idea from where I can start check ?
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<asheesh> Howdy samba_
<asheesh> What SMTP relay are you using? Your own server?
<samba_> no, I've my own instance
<asheesh> Also thanks for stopping by and asking the question! I hope I can answer them.
<samba_> I'm using my ISP relay
<samba_> :)
<samba_> I read the docs here
<samba_> but there's nothing about email issue when sending invites
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<asheesh> Hmm. I'm not sure Sandstorm logs email that it sends. Let me go read the source to check.
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<asheesh> samba_: I think under normal operation Sandstorm won't log anything when it sends emails, but it will leave a note in the Sandstorm server log area if sending an email fails.
<asheesh> Have you looked there yet?
<samba_> into log/*logs ?
<samba_> yes
<samba_> tail -f /opt/sandstorm/log/*log
<samba_> send invitation
<samba_> from the UI 'invitation sent'
<samba_> no logs
<samba_> no email received
<asheesh> I meant here - https://rose.sandcats.io/admin/status (or the URL for your server) - but that corresponds to the file in /opt/sandstorm/var/log/sandstorm.log
<asheesh> If you're OK with it, one thing we could do is configure your Sandstorm server to use a logging-only SMTP server, so you can see exactly what it's sending to the SMTP server.
<asheesh> I can help you set that up if you like.
<asheesh> The easiest way to do that is to run this command on the server that runs Sandstorm:
<asheesh> python -m smtpd -n -c DebuggingServer localhost:1025
<asheesh> Then configure Sandstorm to use localhost:1025 as its SMTP gateway, then do the action that sends email.
<asheesh> I'll also file a bug in Sandstorm to make it possible to debug this more easily.
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<asheesh> samba_: Still there? What do you think?
<samba_> sorry I was checking the server logs
<asheesh> Cool, yeah, no worries. Just wanted to make sure youwere progressing somehow.
<samba_> ok, I ll setup the python smtpd now and let you know
<asheesh> Howdy WantToBuySandsto . At the moment, admins cannot take ownership of grains they don't own.
<asheesh> Nor can they see a list of grains created in the server that aren't owned by them.
<asheesh> If you look in the MongoDB database that Sandstorm runs, it is possibly possible to achieve the above two things I suppose.
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<WantToBuySandsto> ok. Im understand. Thanks
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