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<simpson> Hi! (How am I not in here already?) Is this an okay place to discuss Capn Proto?
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<zarvox> simpson: it is perhaps the best place!
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<simpson> zarvox: Okay, excellent.
<simpson> I'm currently working on bringing up a new Capn implementation. My WIP is currently here: https://github.com/monte-language/typhon/blob/capn/mast/lib/capnp.mt
<simpson> At the top, I've included the $(capnp compile -o $(which cat) schema.capnp > meta.capn) command that I've been working from.
<simpson> I feel a bit stuck at this point, because I think that I've explored most of the packet and haven't seen the fields and types that I expected to see from a compiler request.
<simpson> Am I even on the right track here? I feel like I've decoded the basic structure of the packet alright...
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<dwrensha> simpson: fyi as of version 0.5.2 or so, you can do `capnp compile -o -` rather than `capnp compile -o /bin/cat`
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<dwrensha> simpson where specifically do you observations diverge from your expectations?
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<MatheusRV> Hello, where is located the app-request forum?
<MatheusRV> how could i sugest some apps?
<michaelw> @MatheusRV , you could create an app
<MatheusRV> Right now i cant create an app
<MatheusRV> i want to create 120 diferentes apps
<MatheusRV> i'm working with cloudron team, but sandstorm is more advanced than.. i will prefer support this software
<dwrensha> MatheusRV: there's a forum grain somewhere that used to be the official place to suggest apps
<dwrensha> but I think nowadays probably your best bet is to send an email to the sandstorm-dev mailing list
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<MatheusRV> who is core team from sandstorm?
<MatheusRV> here no one?
<dwrensha> I'm on that list
<MatheusRV> i want to talk about sandstorm and how could i help
<MatheusRV> i want to spread app in brazil
<MatheusRV> nice
<MatheusRV> could us talk in private?
<michaelw> Apps are international. I think.
<dwrensha> (note that none of us are actually getting paid to work on Sandstorm any more: https://sandstorm.io/news/2017-02-06-sandstorm-returning-to-community-roots )
<MatheusRV> yes are international
<MatheusRV> but i want to make about 100 t-shirt to give in enterpreeenuer and dev events
<MatheusRV> want to organize a hackathon at campus party
<MatheusRV> app hackathon
<MatheusRV> in future be sponsor sandstorm
<MatheusRV> what they think?
<MatheusRV> what u think
<dwrensha> sounds cool
<MatheusRV> who i need talk about this partnership?
<MatheusRV> sorry for bad english
<dwrensha> kentonv is in charge
<MatheusRV> tks
<dwrensha> you could send an email to community@sandstorm.io, an email address that privately goes to some Sandstorm core team members
<dwrensha> or you could send an email just to kenton@sandstorm.io
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<mrdomino> hrm, i'm wondering again about how to make ekam faster
<mrdomino> it seems to rebuild the whole project every time rather than try to be incremental
<mrdomino> it's great once a continuous server is running, but that can take an hour or more
<dwrensha> make continuous
<dwrensha> oh, right you just said that
<dwrensha> wow, an hour is pretty bad
<mrdomino> well, that's not just raw build time
<mrdomino> this is more, i'm trying to get a dev environment set up
<mrdomino> if it takes 5-10 minutes to rebuild to the point where the last error happened
<mrdomino> then it can easily be an hour or more before i can start working
<mrdomino> (incidentally, a recent commit to capnproto seems to have added some C++14-specific stuff, causing the ekam build to break with -std=c++11 as it ships with)
<mrdomino> the culprit is kj/compat/http{,-test}.c++ but i haven't looked at it in enough detail to know what's going on
<dwrensha> what version of clang++?
<mrdomino> 3.8
<mrdomino> latest one on ubuntu 16.04.1
<mrdomino> i think the same thing happened with 3.9 on 16.10
<dwrensha> weird. I have not hit any trouble on Fedora or Arch
<dwrensha> clang 3.8 on Fedora
<mrdomino> weird. my steps to reproduce are: clone sandstorm, ln -s .. deps, make deps, cd ../ekam, make. reliably happens on a vultr.com ubuntu 16.04.1 vps.
<mrdomino> make CXX=clang++ that is
<mrdomino> (after installing the necessary system deps of course)
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<mrdomino> (there's also a slight possibility that i'm misremembering this from failed runs where i forgot to specify CXX=clang++ and was using g++ instead)
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<mrdomino> (but i'm 80% sure that both CXX=clang++ and s/c++11/c++14/ in the Makefile are required for the build to pass)
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<astuce> hey guys, i got some issues with backup/restore since update 204
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<mrdomino> dwrensha: just confirmed, make CXX=clang++ on ekam master fails in kj/compat/http-test.c++
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<MatheusRV> why sandstorm uses kiwi instead of rocket chat?
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<MatheusRV> zZzZzZzZzZzZzZz
<MatheusRV> no one is using this chat?
<simpson> MatheusRV: Hi! I'm around, but I don't know anything about your question, sorry.
<MatheusRV> i just want to talk about ss
<MatheusRV> why App Committee Voting isnt used anymore?
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