15:10 <jfred> Spent some time last night trying out Sandstorm packaging for an app with vagrant-spk. That's very nicely straightforward! Although what tripped me up for a while was not being able to see stderr from a running grain

15:11 <jfred> I had an issue with my nginx config and it took a while to figure out why; had I been able to see stderr it would've been more apparent

15:11 <jfred> unless there's a way to do that and I'm just missing it

15:58 <JacobWeisz[m]> The grain debug log should show you stderr, I believe.

15:59 <JacobWeisz[m]> It's available from the top bar in Sandstorm.

16:46 <jfred> ...somehow I completely missed that icon

16:46 <jfred> I bet it would've shown me what I needed to know lol

17:29 <isd> Glad you figured it out at least :P

17:55 <jfred> for reference, the thing I was trying to package was excalidraw: https://github.com/excalidraw/excalidraw

17:56 <jfred> and I did get it partly working, though what I have so far isn't *super* interesting since this part of the application seems to be client-side-only so doesn't have any server-side storage

17:57 <jfred> I think there might be a server-side component I can run? Which would make it a much more interesting package. Will have to look a bit deeper at it later

18:10 <JacobWeisz[m]> Yeah, unfortunately a lot of people like writing client side only apps that store in localStorage, which isn't useful or workable on Sandstorm.

18:10 <JacobWeisz[m]> Laverna is actually shimmed somehow and copies its localStorage data to the server.