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<andikaqren> @eva: i was trading stellar more than 1 million , but never got 1 invite :disappointed: .when all my friend get invite code my stellar no balance
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<tinhlabo> you seem to be the talkative
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well, my cat won't let me sleep so I gotta pass the time
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<tinhlabo> matter :grinning:
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<fergalslack> Hello all
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<eno> hi @fergalslack
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<lonelad08> what are we doing here?
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<lonelad08> waiting?
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<lab> will you waste days for 200 STRs only?
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<dzham> For one account I wouldn’t bother, but if you can make ten accounts in a day, that’s about minimum wage in some South East Asian countries
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<lab> tens? hundreds is the minimal level.
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<lab> big farmer produce thousands per day.
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<dzham> Yeah, I’m just saying 10 accounts == minimum wage. I know they’re doing a lot more, I just wanted to bring some perspective into this.
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<lab> it's almost fully automatic.
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<dzham> For sure it is
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<lab> The giveaway was not even help poor mans in developing countries.
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<dzham> True
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<dzham> It's just so easy to overlook that, to think it's hard work w/ low margins.. "Why bother for 200 STR?"
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<dzham> If you buy bulk, a sim card can be bought for <50 STR, so SMS verification is worthless
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<lab> it makes farmer who was rich to be well educated in developing countries richer.
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<dzham> Yeah, the FB PVA sellers had their lucky day
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<lab> no
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<lab> PVA sellers are small fishes
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<dzham> ah!
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<dzham> who are the big guys? hacked accounts ? phishers?
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<lab> criminals who consume hacked accounts.
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<dzham> PVA seems like the perfect match, because their account are still as valuable even after they have signed up for Stellar
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<dzham> ok
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<lab> the price of a "legitimate" fb account they got is much cheaper than PVA sellers.
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<accd1002> They are liars!
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<accd1002> Say things are not done!
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<lovestorm203> I'm waiting for the new upgrade from stellar platform, a new program and better finishing :simple_smile:
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<quynhk8> new upgrade may affect the Balance in my account
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<quynhk8> i have 10000 str
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<quynhk8> :simple_smile:
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<joker> hello
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<fergalslack> Hello Eva how are you?
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<epsilon> quynhk8: I believe your STR 10k will be migrated over to the new system as XLM 10k when it is ready.
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<sunny-g> Hey everyone! Just a quick question: why has the protocol been changed to require an AllowTrustOp from a user before I can hold their credits if I've created a trust line with them?
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<epsilon> sunny-g: Hey! Where are you seeing this?
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<sunny-g> I'm also seeing an AUTH_REQUIRED_FLAG that may or may not be required to be set on say my acct before I can issue an AllowTrustOp txn
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<sunny-g> I'm trying to build a social currency built on p2p trust lines so if every trust line created requires the other party's consent, I'm dead in the water
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<epsilon> If you set your account to require auth then only clients you specify may trade/hold your currency IOUs/credits
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<epsilon> provatises things a bit
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<epsilon> priv*
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<sunny-g> Ya gives you more control, so if accts by default don't set the flag, I'm in the clear as I was before the change it seems
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<epsilon> correct :simple_smile:
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<sunny-g> Sweet! And the revocable flag?
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<sunny-g> Same as was implemented in Ripple where you can freeze your credits? Or more?
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<sunny-g> Also, now that I think about it, has the concept of rippling been deprecated for market offers? And if so, how does one use them to replicate the functionality of rippling?
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<nguyentuhaibk> str has changed so anyone new?
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<kaibalyavilash> need to have control over them
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<joyce> @chrishall78 mahalo! Good to see you here :)
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<arjunaku> hy joyce
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<mrga2411> Hello
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<mrga2411> I got the message from stellar "Educational Giveaway Program Temporarily Paused"
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<mrga2411> I've sign-up 2 day before . Could I receive 125 STR ?
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<zealord> hi Stan. Welcome to this Slack channel. Great to see you here.
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<scott> hey @stan looks like maybe the testnet is stalled. I blame it on your implementation of SCP (just joking :)). Let me ping one of the stellar-core guys to see what’s going on
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<stan> @scott: probably that :simple_smile: hahaha
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<stan> @scott: I'd like to play with setting up a gateway and moving currencies around --> v1 or can I do it w/ galaxy (even if painful :wink: )?
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<scott> It’ll be a bit painful since some of the useful information with moving currencies around isn’t impemented in horizon yet (notably, there’s no way to get orderbook information), but the transactions all work w/galaxy. You can, for example, create a gateway, have another account extend trust to it and issue credits
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<scott> I recommend Andrew’s js library `js-stellar-lib` as a starting point… it’s the most fleshed out of the client libraries.
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<stan> @scott: cool! I'll go read the code then!
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<stan> thx thx!
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<scott> anytime :simple_smile:
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<zealord> Welcome 'back' to this slack channel @qf. It's cool to see early Stellar promoter here.
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<qf> :simple_smile: hi! good to be back
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<joyce> woohoo, @qf representing!
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<vanessa> @qf is 24-hour slack chatin it up over in #resources
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<vanessa> come if you're interested in income volatility, come join us!
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<qf> according to the Times, you can also ask me about thoughtful advice or marijuana
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<vanessa> lol
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<vanessa> We are a welcoming community :simple_smile:
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<qf> :grinning:
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<alexsingh> You folks should explore facilitating discussions on Blab - http://www.blab.im|www.blab.im
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<chrishall78> @joyce thanks! thought i would come and check out the chat today in the resources channel.
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<vanessa> Hi @chrishall78 **welcome**
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<eva> @chrishall78: please do! Welcome :simple_smile: Loving the chat so far
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<eva> @alexsingh signed up, and am waiting to hear about getting a channel so we can test it out.
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<alexsingh> :thumbsup:
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<umbrel> I’m deactivating stellar payments on piiko
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<eva> @umbrel: everything okay?
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<umbrel> Well, it’s been too unreliable lately. Let’s wait until the problem resolved or network relaunched
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<eva> @umbrel: totally understand. Hope you'll reintegrate soon. Also, feel free to ask in #dev about the recent instability. My understanding is that it's been stabilized, but I wouldn't want to speak for them :simple_smile:
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<eva> @umbrel: is it okay if I add your email to a shortlist of integrators to contact about the new network with important updates?
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<umbrel> Sure, I maybe already there, because I get some notifications
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<eva> okay good
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<eva> I will double check!
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<eva> again, really sorry for the inconvenience + instability, and for what it's worth we're all really excited for the new network too
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<eva> Piiko is really really cool
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<umbrel> I’m sure developers do what they can, I just don’t need extra headache at the moment :simple_smile:
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<andrew> js-stellar-lib is still under development, but im hoping to quickly bring it to 0.1 and release better documentation
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<andrew> anyway, the client tutorial code should also provide a good resource
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<umbrel> it’s ok, I track progress closely
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<eva> great, and thanks very much for letting us know @umbrel
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<scott> @umbrel: as an aside, I would really recommend spriting those flag images. You could make your landing page feel a lot quicker.
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<scott> at least until http/2 is widely deployed :simple_smile:
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<umbrel> Well, yes, something I need to do, but I’m lazy :simple_smile:
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<scott> :simple_smile:
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<joyce> Howdy @daveyoon! :simple_smile: Everyone, meet my good friend dave - he has a ton of exp working at tech nonprofits
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<eva> hello @daveyoon! Welcome
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<eva> Don't know if you saw, but we're having a community chat in #resources right now about income volatility. You'd be more than welcome to pop in :simple_smile:
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<eva> welcome @daverawlingssf! Good to see you in here
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<shannon> @joyce: Thanks :simple_smile: Vanessa's getting me all fixed up with the latest and greatest collaboration technology!
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<eva> welcome @ronaldo
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<daverawlingssf> hello... . I have a live proof of concept and need a developer to (1) a remittance app on top of Stellar; (2) integration work on a Stellar Gateway from (probably Canada) to the Philippines, possibly Hong Kong); and (3) probably someone to host the solution, provide maintenance, bug fixes, etc. The remittance app should give a similar customer experience to venmo, xoom, remitly, etc. Please let me know i
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<dzham> @daverawlingssf: Love that you’re thinking about the Philippines!
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<dzham> I needed some emergency cash a couple of weeks ago, after my CC expired and before they replaced it. Paid a 7% premium at Localbitcoins in Sweden, got PHP at spot price just an hour later. The competition in .ph is fierce.