<cr1901_modern> I mean, you have technically 16 possible 2-input logic gates to choose from, no?
<cr1901_modern> Well, I'm not sure how useful the "2-input gate that always outputs 0 or 1" is, so 14
<pointfree> cr1901_modern: I suppose you could say that the TRUTH gate is the voltage source, and that the FALSE gate is ground.
<jn__> yay, 2-input LUTs
<pointfree> YES gates, NOT gates, TRUTH gates, and FALSE gates are all possible with my 2-input LUT device. Source and ground gates. Very useful. Something to promote :)
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<pointfree> Because gates are rarely implemented out of primitive AND, OR, and NOT gates, the paper argues for synthesizing any Boolean functions to a functionally complete set of gates that are more expressive than the three most primitive ones ...such as majority functions.
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<cr1901_modern> YES gate? You mean a buffer?
<pointfree> YES
<pointfree> :)
<cr1901_modern> Idk how to implement a NOT gate from a TRUTH/FALSE gate
<cr1901_modern> or a YES gate, for that matter
<pointfree> you cut the wire with a pair of scissors.
<pointfree> TIL 2 bits of data is "a shave and a haircut" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Units_of_information#Shave_and_a_haircut
<mtp> whitequark, http://sprunge.us/DhZG
<qu1j0t3> mtp: Hey you ever find out if those xtals worked? :)
<mtp> qu1j0t3, nah i've been too busy doing like 30,000 other things
<mtp> like actually figuring out how to design oscillator circuits :D
<qu1j0t3> :)
<mtp> also i took apart a 400hz oscillator i found at the museum
<mtp> vacuum tube and a literal tuning fork
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<lain> ha
<qu1j0t3> Nice!
<mtp> selenium rectifier, too
<qu1j0t3> get any shots of it?
<mtp> nah
<mtp> it wasn't very visible
<rqou> i swear namecheap has been getting less and less cheap
<rqou> considering transferring out to name.com; opinions about them?
<mtp> i use gandi
<pie_> wow thats pretty cool @ mtp
<cr1901_modern> I use NFS w/o issues. Very cheap, $20/year
<rqou> yeah i
<rqou> i'm kinda a fail and some of my domains have already expired yesterday
<rqou> and some are about to expire in like 8 hours
<rqou> so i figured out why firefox was using way way more memory than i expected
<rqou> apparently soundcloud leaks memory
<whitequark> I use gandi too
<rqou> i'm transferring to name.com
<whitequark> mtp: neat
<whitequark> regarding the oscillator
<whitequark> I've seen an even better one
<mtp> whitequark, yeah also check out that PIL script
<rqou> maybe i can get working ipv6 glue now :P
<lain> I'm on namecheap, have been a bit annoyed with them lately though
<whitequark> a vacuum tube, a MASSIVE vacuum tube
<whitequark> like palm sized
<whitequark> and a metallized quartz crystal in it
<rqou> namecheap used to be cheap, but they're not so much anymore
<whitequark> for the most of the length of it
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<cr1901_modern> I wonder what starts the oscillation in that tuning fork
<whitequark> and it makes a beautiful sound if you tap it, naturally
<rqou> now namecheap is just meh
<whitequark> it's just a parallelepiped
<lain> I'm less concerned with cheap and more concerned with the fact that I have domains set to auto-renew and they keep emailing me saying they're going to expire
<lain> so I renew them manually the day before auto-renew JUST IN CASE
<lain> cause they're sure not acting like they're going to auto-renew :P
<azonenberg_work> lain: yeah
<azonenberg_work> i have had other registrars do that too
<cr1901_modern> "it's just a parallelepiped" <-- the quartz?
<rqou> namecheap in general feels pretty buggy
<rqou> also, they insist on using sms-based 2fa
<lain> rqou: yeah, sms 2fa is blegh
<lain> TOTP or U2F plskthx
<rqou> also, you can't edit glue records for either .cc or .io on namecheap
<rqou> you have to file a support ticket
<rqou> that was fun to discover
<whitequark> cr1901_modern: yes
<cr1901_modern> cool
<rqou> umm, i just got a "domain expired" notice one minute before a "domain transfer out initiated" notice
<rqou> that's rather scary
<rqou> fortunately this is one of my "secondary" domains
<cr1901_modern> I'm kinda glad in retrospect that I paid someone to help me set up DNS
<rqou> my DNS is "special"
<rqou> among other things, it has unusual record types
<cr1901_modern> I had to set up more records when I set up my mail server, but that's about it.
<rqou> i have TXT and SRV records and various other experiments
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<rqou> whitequark: mehdi sadaghdar tries to vacuum chamber: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97w8bl3n3eU
<whitequark> whos that
<whitequark> what the fuck is he doing
<rqou> youtuber who makes humorous EE videos, usually involving shocking himself
<whitequark> wow thats disgusting
<whitequark> christ
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<cr1901_modern> It's funny when he sticks his finger too close to a spark gap and electrons decide to stop crossing the gap
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<jn__> sounds like me with my favorite CRT
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<rqou> offtopic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWHamD1Hj58 from 1:00 to 2:00 :P
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<rqou> actually the remainder of the video is pretty great too
<nats`> plop
<whitequark> rqou: lol
<whitequark> the MSVS installer is the worst
<whitequark> once it ran for like 6 hours straight
<whitequark> modern hardware, not virtualized
<whitequark> not a clue as to why
<rqou> windows installers seem to suck in general
<rqou> i've never had nearly as many problems with e.g. apt
<openfpga-github> [openfpga] whitequark commented on issue #60: I believe this bug is not present in the current master. This is what I get:... https://git.io/vDNk3
<whitequark> ... hm
<openfpga-github> [openfpga] whitequark reopened issue #60: Don't hang the build forever if ttf-libertine.sty is not installed https://git.io/v1r2S
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<openfpga-github> [openfpga] whitequark closed issue #60: Don't hang the build forever if ttf-libertine.sty is not installed https://git.io/v1r2S
* whitequark stares at openfpga-github
<whitequark> where's my other notifications!!
<openfpga-github> [openfpga] whitequark commented on issue #59: Where did we want to upload it anyways... https://git.io/vDNmY
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<nats`> I'm planning to use a CH340 on a board in place of FTDI any though about that ?
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<whitequark> rqou: lol I just fucked around with the OS X installer for like two hours
<whitequark> turns out
<whitequark> if it finds an existing os x drive and you select "reinstall macos"
<whitequark> then it does some sort of DRM or w/e check online with apple servers
<whitequark> but if you DON't give it an existing os x drive (which I discovered by pure accident)
<whitequark> it just installs
<whitequark> the amount of things I tried was boundless, and all I had to do...
* whitequark sighs
<whitequark> ... was to use the createinstallmedia program from the app. didn't need KernelBooter_kexts=yes, didn't need CsrActiveConfig=103, didn't need clover or ovmf
<whitequark> hm, no, spoken too soon
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<azonenberg_work> whitequark: nice work on the pdflatex stuff
<azonenberg_work> re uploading docs, i guess we never decided where to put them :p
<azonenberg_work> i think the intention was for buildbot to push it to the github.io page?
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<whitequark> rqou: how the fuck did you manage to get 10.10+ to boot?!
<whitequark> it just, doesn't
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<nats`> I'll ask here because in ##fpga it'll end up in a fight
<nats`> someone or some company published comparative result of real cases synthesis VHDL vs Verilog ?
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