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[libera] <ArmbianTwitter> @youngyukari (Makusu 🌸): @kobol_io last kernel from @armbian (5.10.35-rockchip64 #21.05.1 SMP PREEMPT Fri May 7) seem to break the udev rules for /dev/thermal-cpu https://tinyurl.com/yfx5f3mw (1s ago)
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[libera] <ArmbianTwitter> @armbian (armbian): @youngyukari @kobol_io Twitter might not be the best place for technical support questions. Use kobol forums https://t.co/UQ6PIXr3oJ or send a patch directly to the build system https://t.co/TNt4vprBLKhttps://tinyurl.com/yh9za9ch (4s ago)
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[libera] <vm> the most recent buster.img for cubieboard2 does not work. e.g. it resets while trying to boot. any hints?
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<nekomancer[m]>
is `dpkg --add-architecture i386` still usable in armbian builder?
<nekomancer[m]>
* is `dpkg --add-architecture i386` still required in armbian builder?
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[libera] <ArmbianTwitter> @hackerfantastic (Hacker Fantastic): @lanefu @stealth @armbian For every local root bug you are told about or discover being shared publicly, at least a dozen others are not shared or discussed :) LPE's are relatively common and require an attacker to have local access so sharing publicly as 0day is not that uncommon as risk is reduced. https://tinyurl.com/yzfcvgze (13s ago)
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[libera] <IgorPec> nekomancer[m]: why do you need that? not sure if we need this
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[libera] <ArmbianTwitter> @lanefu (Lane Jennison): @hackerfantastic @stealth @armbian Okay yeah that does make sense to share as a 0day then... I appreciate your explaination. Also wanted to apologize if I was shifting blame.... I didn't think I was, but I gotta think through that and figure it out for the next time something comes up. https://tinyurl.com/yetj4jjk (7s ago)
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[libera] <cheakoirccloud> Were can I make suggestions for https://www.armbian.com/espressobin/ ? It's using a part number that doesn't match any known part, even the link points to another part. Also I've determined that going by the Chip only and not the Product can cause issues, thought with a sample size of one I'm less certain this is correct. I'll explain.
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[libera] <Xogium> there's noone that maintains support for ebin anymore
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[libera] <Xogium> its community support only, if that
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[libera] <cheakoirccloud> Then the obvious request is to take down that page?
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[libera] <lanefu> cheakoirccloud: are you talking about the v5 boards vs v7?
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[libera] <cheakoirccloud> Better to say nothing than to speak and be incorrect.
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[libera] <cheakoirccloud> I'm not certain what board I have, still.
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[libera] <lanefu> anyway proceed with explaining
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[libera] <lanefu> the board will say v4, v5 or v7 somewhere on it
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[libera] <Xogium> isn't it near to the ethernet switch ? Hmm nah, those must be mac
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[libera] <Tenkawa> they are still quite popular
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[libera] <Tenkawa> the v7's are all over the place
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[libera] <Xogium> strange
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[libera] <Xogium> on globalscale website itself, all you can buy is their espressobin ultra
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[libera] <lanefu> Yeah they're popular.. but they're a PITA, no armbian dev has one.. and the community contributors on the forum hate armbian and only post patchesin the forum and dont contribute to our git
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[libera] <cheakoirccloud> QCA9890 doesn't exist, AFAICT. The link is to an QCA988080 witch might be just QCA9880. The WLE900VX specifically was DoA for me, could be that this product/board doesn't mesh well with the Ebin's particular flavor of mPCIe. I've ordered another product based on the QCA9880.
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[libera] <Tenkawa> lanefu: well most people arent thrilled with nanopi either but they are everywhere
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[libera] <cheakoirccloud> I still have the WLE900VX, but have the RMA.
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[libera] <lanefu> anyway i'm just giving context on where armbian is with the ebin
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[libera] <Tenkawa> indeed
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[libera] <Xogium> it looks like gst doesn't even sell the ebin standalone now, either v5 or v7
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[libera] <Xogium> you can only buy the ultra combo which is like a router with wifi and LTE
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[libera] <Tenkawa> I just looked at the global reseller list and that was one of the ones in stock
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[libera] <Xogium> or at least it was that way, the last time I checked
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[libera] <Tenkawa> I'm currently buried 8 machines deep in rpi
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[libera] <Xogium> yeah if anything you might have better support if you buy from amazon, ironically, because of customer protection and all that. Buying directly from globalscale, I would not recommend given that if your board arrives DOA and you request a refund you are simply ignored
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[libera] <Tenkawa> haahaa
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[libera] <Tenkawa> ouch
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[libera] <Xogium> yep gst is an awefull company
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[libera] <Tenkawa> sounds like it
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[libera] <Xogium> plus, they sometimes ship boards that you can't even boot properly because they flashed a bootloader that is missing the spi flash driver
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[libera] <lanefu> cheakoirccloud: yeah so sorry to be a wank, but I don't think we need to make adjustments to our download page.
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[libera] <cheakoirccloud> I've only tried OpenWRT and Armbian, is there something else I can try?
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[libera] <cheakoirccloud> Honestly Armbian works more than %90.
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[libera] <lanefu> honestly. go check out the NetBSD or FreeBSD or pfsense
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[libera] <lanefu> for other alternatives... haha yeah 90% is pretty good
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[libera] <lanefu> what's the 10% problem
<nekomancer[m]>
impossible to build with `RELEASE=hirsute` on a `focal` workstation, then I try to use building with docker. and see how inside docker builder based on hirsute second stage of debootstarp fails.
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[libera] <Werner> Hi
<nekomancer[m]>
now looking where to add `-x` to get a shell trace up to debootstrap call place, still not found.
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[libera] <cheakoirccloud> Networking broke with a recent upgrade, still working on what pkg caused the "Network is down" variant of `Could not join netdev`. Difficult to google because there are so many `Could not join netdev`. Getting a WiFi card has been a struggle, between whatever is going on with WLE900VX and Intel locking their consumer grade cards.
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[libera] <cheakoirccloud> Another Armbian specific pain is that when I ask about things in #debian-kernel on OFTC, I'm told the kernels are so different they can't help.
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[libera] <lanefu> cheakoirccloud: bummer. yea you may just wanna strip out all the network stuff adn just do it by hand... i can't remember if its using network manager, networkd, or just theother thing
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[libera] <lanefu> if you used a debian kernel, it woudln't work period
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[libera] <ArmbianTwitter> @youngyukari (Makusu 🌸): @armbian @kobol_io Will do thanks https://tinyurl.com/yzzy7r2j (4s ago)
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[libera] <lanefu> I mean it might.. but thats the whole thing armbian does. we put all the pieces together so that things boot
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[libera] <IgorPec> nekomancer[m]: that is not a problem of armbian, ubuntu doesn't provide security patches for their hirsute
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[libera] <IgorPec> nekomancer[m]: sorry, i have sleept 3h last night. Will not check
<nekomancer[m]>
igorpec: please, care for yourself. we need you!
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[libera] <Werner> Ah building dependency. I guess it is fine. Maybe was needed for older stuff. On the bottomline there is nothing we could do about.
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[libera] <lanefu> Igor is a build depedency. go to bed
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[libera] <lanefu> i didnt sleep for shit last night either
<nekomancer[m]>
werner: who can require 32bit libs? maybe it's device- or manufacter- depended requirement?
<ArmbianBridge>
[libera] <Werner> I don't know. Was just a guess and from a quick "blame" on that line this has been added years ago
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[libera] <IgorPec> could be by some weird legacy compling stuff
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[libera] <IgorPec> could also be deprecated
* nekomancer[m]
trying to comment-out and see
<ArmbianBridge>
[libera] <IgorPec> weird compilers are needed for odroids
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[libera] <IgorPec> elsewhere we have moved on i thnk
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[libera] <IgorPec> ebin atf is also a mixture of strange junk