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eagles0513875 >
hey guys will cubietech do custom made PCB's for people?
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Faisal >
I dunno myself
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jelly >
eagles0513875: I bet they would, if you ordered a thousand or ten
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foubarre >
Hi. Anyone knows a linux release where GPIO and OTG work at the same time? Nothing else matters to me at the time, but i can't get grab of a release where both work.
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eagles0513875 >
O_o
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buZz >
foubarre: why not just compile your own kernel which has both features enable?
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quintin_ >
Hello does someone have a working kernel version 3.4.75 on the cubieboard2?
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quintin_ >
or newer
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buZz >
quintin_: mainline effort is slow, but check the mailinglist
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foubarre >
buZz: main problem is finding one where OTG works. not all 3.3 and no 3.4 do. that makes lots of tests and compiles to get a correct working set. Having one (even without mali or cedarx) where these two modules work would be enough so i can cope with a 3.0..
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quintin_ >
this version have been released but I have an issue with the gmac module
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buZz >
foubarre: its different for CB1 and CB2 aswell
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foubarre >
buZz: yep, and i'm looking into CB2...
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buZz >
then grab CB2 linux-sunxi 3.4 kernel
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buZz >
enable both modules in config
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buZz >
and compile it
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buZz >
if it doesnt work, mail linux-sunxi mailinglist
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quintin_ >
foubarre: yesterday for my issue with the ethernet driver I get that the script.bin has an impact on the features that are enable or not. for the gpio you need to activate it inside the script.bin. (I tell you that in case it could help you))
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buZz >
yeah fex/bin is important
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buZz >
more relevant bug
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buZz >
' it has high load ' is not really relevant :D
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buZz >
anyway , cubieplayer is not linux-sunxi team
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foubarre >
buZz: true. however, as i told you, i had a sunxi notice that confirmed the bug.. High load is a side effect.
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buZz >
this forum says 'config error'
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foubarre >
buzz: having tested those releases, even if the load is 1.0+ , OTG does not work.
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buZz >
anyway, this is all not the best sources
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buZz >
maybe you should join #linux-sunxi and ask them about OTG
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foubarre >
did it many times. no answers so far.
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foubarre >
will do again
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foubarre >
buZz: thanks for your answers
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buZz >
very welcome, please come again
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buZz >
have a nice day
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bmn_ >
Hello guys, can you advise some stable linux distro to cubieboard2 ? I tried Lubuntu 1.06 but it consists many problems and bugs, and today i finally broke it :)
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bmn_ >
maybe some debian distro?
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NightShade >
I use debian on mine
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mnemoc >
just debootstrap and inject the right bootloader and kernel
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rneese >
Cubieez for debian
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rneese >
but the cubieez img has a few issue syou can fix easly
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rneese >
1 he staticly set a ip
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rneese >
1 you have to dkpg-configure keyboard-settings
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NightShade >
debootstrap + kernel and u-boot works very well also no messing about with giant image files other people have built
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rneese >
and set the keyboard for tthe right settings
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rneese >
are you going to use it as a server or a desktop
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rneese >
you could also use android
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rneese >
there is where you get the cubieez img
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bmn_ >
I already know about cubiez, i'll try it first.
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rneese >
Cubieuntu works better
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bmn_ >
I do not want build own image :)
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bmn_ >
or cubieuntu
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rneese >
cubieuntu works better cubieez like I said has a few issues
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rneese >
1 it has a static set ip wich you have to undo
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rneese >
and 2 you have to reconfigure the keyboardsettings for the correct keyboard
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rneese >
other wise it works fine
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bmn_ >
Because lubuntu is horrible, i reinstalled it 4-times
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rneese >
cubiuntu I sent you a link
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rneese >
if you look at the pm
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bmn_ >
And two times out of four it suddenly broke, without any reason
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rneese >
W: Failure trying to run: chroot /usr/src/jessie-chroot mount -t proc proc /proc W: See /usr/src/jessie-chroot/debootstrap/debootstrap.log for details
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rneese >
this sucks
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NightShade >
have you copid in the qemu binary and installed the binfmt support packages?
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rneese >
all I was doing is
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rneese >
debootstrap --arch=armhf --variant=minbase --include=wget jessie ./jessie-chroot $MIRROR
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rneese >
and I have mirror set
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rneese >
just doing a root fs
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NightShade >
if you where doing it on x86 then you need to split stage 1 and 2
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NightShade >
as you need to put in the qemu binary between the stages
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NightShade >
I my case I did wheezy first and then dist-upgraded on the cubietruck
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NightShade >
but jessie works too
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rneese >
I did take the wheezy and dist upgrade
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rneese >
but I want a straight jessie img still to look at some diff
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NightShade >
I've done a jessie build too with my method and it works
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NightShade >
but you need to have the right support packages installed
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NightShade >
and copy the qemu binary
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rneese >
well you should post a img
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NightShade >
I posted the blog so that I didn't need to post a stupid img binary :)
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rneese >
having prebuilt imgs is nicer
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rneese >
we need a place to post tthem so others have base imgs to start with
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rneese >
just my tought
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rneese >
but I am going over oyur blog
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rneese >
ok well doing this step by step
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jelly >
jessie is a fast moving target, makes no sense to make an image in time
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jelly >
also, with a prebuilt image one never knows exactly what the author put in there
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rneese >
if its just the base os and the base kernel
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rneese >
nothign else
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rneese >
base/openssh/kernel/modules
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rneese >
enough for the board to boot and run
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NightShade >
and a backdoor in ssh?
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NightShade >
It's also complicated by the fact I want to run the mainline kernel so I have 3.13 sourcetrees cluttering up my image now
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NightShade >
or the complications with sshd keys that can be used to MITM stuff
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NightShade >
there are many things that you want to be unique to you and not pre imaged
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NightShade >
making system images is a pretty fine art to get right
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rneese >
yeah I know
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rneese >
there is a script for building a img now
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rneese >
but it comes out 1.5 gigs
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rneese >
thast huge
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NightShade >
see what I mean :)
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rneese >
part is a swap file and the kernel is like 600 megs
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rneese >
as he added almost every driver
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rneese >
but I am working to understand his script and then redo int in a way that things are smaller
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rneese >
but I am following your root fs right now
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NightShade >
the basic 3.4.61 kernel I ripped out of the lubuntu image is 366M
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rneese >
and getting it done
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NightShade >
is it working for you?
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rneese >
thats huge
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rneese >
this is a 3.4.67 kernel
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rneese >
that I was looking at
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NightShade >
my 3.13 kernels are bigger but I'm not being careful about the size
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rneese >
I was on a call so I am going back to the build in a min
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NightShade >
this is the modules
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NightShade >
the kernel it's self is much smaller
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rneese >
all I need is usb/wifi/sata/sd/nand
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rneese >
and the thernet
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NightShade >
I think you'll get most of them just from the kernel
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rneese >
hdmi is nice but not a full requirement
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NightShade >
looking at my /etc/modules the only module I'm loading that you care about is the wifi one
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rneese >
the hdmi is only if they want terminal access
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NightShade >
just use a serial console
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NightShade >
much easier
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NightShade >
and £6
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rneese >
well these are in cases you cant get access to the header
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NightShade >
true true
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rneese >
once you put it in the case
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NightShade >
the open plan case you get the serial port cables fit in
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NightShade >
you are right that it isn't too hard to build an image from the debian repo to a loopback file
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NightShade >
I just don't see the point in hosting gigs of images when you can just install directly
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rneese >
well having the imgs is for newcomers to get started
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rneese >
then you teach them how to build from there
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rneese >
and then they learn to code and then the project grows
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NightShade >
something like the NOOBS system from the RPi would be good
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NightShade >
a bootable image that lets you install other images / systems
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rneese >
well I am workign to adapt thier script to the cubie boards
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rneese >
that way you have the kernel for each device
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rneese >
and the main root fs that works on all
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NightShade >
the fedora project are aiming for a single image that works on multiple arm platforms
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NightShade >
I'm unclear what debian are aiming / hoping for on arm
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rneese >
well for ours we just are making pbx systems
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rneese >
so we dont need that
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NightShade >
yeah I can see that
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rneese >
we just need the base minimal os
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NightShade >
makes sense for that use
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NightShade >
known good image and all that
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rneese >
I still want to strip the os down to 128 meg
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NightShade >
good luck with that
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rneese >
it can be done
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NightShade >
might be worth starting out with openwrt
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rneese >
you srtip out man and doc pages
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rneese >
well we are workign to basicly make a version of voyagelinux for the nand
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NightShade >
why so small? sd cards are cheap and NAND is a minium of 4gb these days
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rneese >
so the nand last longer
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rneese >
why have anything in the os you dont realy need
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rneese >
and we want to make it so they cant f*ckup the system
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rneese >
it basicly becomes the fimware of the device
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rneese >
and the truck is nice but overkill for us
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rneese >
althou I would like to see the cubie with 2 gig of ram
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NightShade >
the 2gb of ram is handy
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rneese >
and a socket for the nand so that it is replaceable/upgradeable
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rneese >
why did they have to hardwire the nand I dont get
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NightShade >
I think that nand sockets are expensive and fiddly
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NightShade >
also a protection thing
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rneese >
look at the emmc sockets they are 2 bucks for a bag of 50
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NightShade >
so can can't just lift the nand and rip the contents
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NightShade >
I think that nand and emmc are quite different
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rneese >
but the idea is that if the nand should die can you still boot from sd only as the main part of the BL is on the nand
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rneese >
as long as you can still force boot with sd then atleast you dont loose the board
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rneese >
but I thought the main part of the bootloader was on the nand in nand/a/b
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NightShade >
I thought boot0/1 where in the cpu package
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rneese >
hmm have to look
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rneese >
NightShade can I pm for a min
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rneese >
I will paste bin
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rneese >
thats the start
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rneese >
but I get the proc issue still
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rneese >
is it due to the --include
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NightShade >
you've not set the --foreign flag, from my blog: sudo debootstrap --arch=armhf --foreign $distro $targetdir
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NightShade >
I'm assuming you aren't bootstraping on arm
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Ti_WB119 >
Happy new year~
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rneese >
correct its a amd64 machine
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NightShade >
ah that is more complex
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NightShade >
not sure how the user space qemu interacts with a VM
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but you definately need the foreign flag otherwise debootstrap tries to run stuff inside the chroot
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NightShade >
that's the reason for the 2 stages I use
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rneese >
yes well this is only a frist stage I am doing but using a minibase
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rneese >
ok its getting cold and the heat is not coming on brb furn issues
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NightShade >
--foreign
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NightShade >
Do the initial unpack phase of bootstrapping only, for example if the target
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NightShade >
strap/debootstrap in the target filesystem. You can run it with the --sec‐
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NightShade >
sufficient for completing the bootstrap process will be installed as /deboot‐
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NightShade >
architecture does not match the host architecture. A copy of debootstrap
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NightShade >
ond-stage option to complete the bootstrapping process.
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NightShade >
that's the bit that matters for you
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NightShade >
just trying it in a VM I have on a high speed link
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let me find ths link to the other build I used
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rneese >
Eddy Beaupré
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has a img build system I am trying to adapt
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rneese >
cant find the link
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rneese >
but thats why I need a new root fs
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NightShade >
2 secs I have a working version of your script
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rneese >
but I am following yours NightShade
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NightShade >
flag even
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rneese >
yes I added it
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NightShade >
and the qemu part works too inside a KVM vm
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NightShade >
am currently on the second stage part of the bootstrap
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NightShade >
so I've run that script and got a basic chroot
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NightShade >
and I've copied over my qemu binary
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NightShade >
and now I'm running an arm chroot and doing the second stage
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rneese >
yep its running here also
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rneese >
I like scripting things
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NightShade >
the scripting of the 2nd stage might be sligtly tricky
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NightShade >
you'll need to build a script inside the chroot and then call it from outside
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rneese >
look at his setup
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rneese >
it builds a big img but this is what I am adapting to
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rneese >
to make the img
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rneese >
in the future
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rneese >
his script generates a mac fo each img
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rneese >
and it does more
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rneese >
but I have to spend time adapting it
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NightShade >
builds the kernel too
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rneese >
so have to change it to use a prebuilt
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rneese >
or build a minimal kernel
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NightShade >
if you only have a single target might be easier to just learn from it and rebuild it
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rneese >
like the cubieboard2
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rneese >
well you explain enough I have gottent further then Ihad
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rneese >
so your page is a grest tool
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NightShade >
if you look at the output of ps ax while stuff is in the chroot you'll see qemu running
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NightShade >
will give you a good idea how stuff is working
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rneese >
I have no name!@debian-cubie:/# apt-get update 0% [Working]qemu: Unsupported syscall: 374 qemu: Unsupported syscall: 374
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rneese >
it gave a error on apt-get but its running
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NightShade >
also if you read his lib/armbian.sh file there are some useful functions there
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NightShade >
it's a VM error
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NightShade >
I got it my VM too
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NightShade >
I'm not exactly sure if the locales bit is going to work for you
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NightShade >
I'm just building a rootfs to check
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rneese >
i got a error
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NightShade >
yeah just waiting on my rootfs unpacking 2 mins
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rneese >
I think I screwed up
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NightShade >
it's on crap disks
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rneese >
I meesed up I tried to use the wroge distro inside the distro
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rneese >
rerunning the base script
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NightShade >
cut and paste error :)
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rneese >
the big thing is I have to have sata in the kernel so I can plug on a ssd/dom
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rneese >
we plan to add in a righ angle dom into the units
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NightShade >
the 3.4 kernel I extracted from lubuntu does
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NightShade >
and the 3.13 upstream I'm using does too
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NightShade >
you lose wifi on the 3.13
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NightShade >
but that is being fixed currently
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rneese >
but is everything int hat kernel needed
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NightShade >
you can just grab the kernel that will give you ether and sata
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NightShade >
and then see if you need other modules
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rneese >
ok I have the a20-kernel-3.4.67.tar.gz
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rneese >
and a u-boot-mmc-ext4.tar.gz
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rneese >
so I can use ext4
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NightShade >
I just built my own after I had the thing booted from the lubuntu stuff
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NightShade >
you need to install perl-modules too to stop the locales stuff moaning
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NightShade >
just doing a rootfs build not
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NightShade >
now even
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NightShade >
cancel that you need to install dialog to make it work in a useful qway
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rneese >
so apt-get install dialog
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rneese >
and then the loacles
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rneese >
so add that to your page
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NightShade >
on it :p
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rneese >
debconf: delaying package configuration, since apt-utils is not installed
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rneese >
so apt-utils is not installed either
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rneese >
ok sould I inatll all locals
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rneese >
or leave it to the user to add them
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rneese >
you dont say on your page
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NightShade >
I just choose the GB and US english ones for speed
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NightShade >
as you are based in the US (I think) you can just choose the US ones
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NightShade >
all of the rest of the instructions just work for me inside the chroot
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rneese >
ok well once I have a root fs for jessie I can tar it up and then remount it and add more right
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rneese >
I want the base and then I want a base with my repo and pkgs
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rneese >
you also are not setting a hostname
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NightShade >
so long as you have the qemu binary in the right place you can just chroot
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NightShade >
I do: echo debian-armhf > /etc/hostname
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NightShade >
any how I need to get ready for new year later so afk until 2014 :)
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rneese >
I have 11 hours 37 min
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jelly-home >
.nz is there already!
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rneese >
I work for a company in NZ
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NightShade found a typo on your page also
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ok I have a root fs
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and this is good
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now I have to make a 2nd rootfs-custom
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ok 268 mk for root fs
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rneese >
95M jessie-rootfs-armhf.tgz
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rneese >
now to get a img done with it
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rneese >
man I wish I had a dotmatrix printer right now
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and the paper for it
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much easier for printing code
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