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Spark/master cee4c8a elliottcable: (! new meta) Changing the license to MIT.
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Spark/master 9619b79 elliottcable: (new meta) Updating the project for new idiomatic best-practices as of 2013. [see: elliottcable/Speck@a003af41]
<purrr>
Spark/master a94ad5f elliottcable: (- fix) Crash and burn if the task doesn't find any specifications.
<elliottcable>
yiss
<elliottcable>
whitequark ⑊ Man, you gotta get colors working.
<purr>
<Nexxy> I have a personal rule ... don't feel bad for people that name themselves after final fantasy characters.
<whitequark>
elliottcable: live updates is not a checkbox
<whitequark>
show join/leave messages is
<whitequark>
as per colors; yeah
<purr>
<incomprehensibly> BUT ELEPHANT REMAINED INSIDE
<Nuck>
Holy shit, these scientists in Evangelion used a 4-letter password that's a real word to delete their programming
<Nuck>
I've NEVER used a password that short
<whitequark>
Nuck: that is unfortunately very realistic
<whitequark>
well, almost, there's hardly much software left which will allow you to even set a 4-letter password
<whitequark>
but...
<Nuck>
whitequark: I think the self-destructing code (and the fact that they deployed uncompiled source to a production robot) is less realistic
<Nuck>
I mean, what nuclear-powered giant robot would be written in an interpreted language? That just seems like something you'd do in C, C++, etc.
<whitequark>
oh yes
<whitequark>
it's better to let it segfault
<whitequark>
unless you are in an extremely resource-constrained environment, and you are not, you do not have a single reason *to* use C++
<whitequark>
but you have a thousands one *against*
<whitequark>
(self-destructing code) seen the news about the latest chromebook?
<whitequark>
if you mess with alsamixer too much it fries its speakers
<whitequark>
with magic smoke and stuff
<whitequark>
on practically any non-x86, or even non-PC device you have a multitude of ways to destruct the device from itself
<whitequark>
CPU frequency/voltage, various incompatible register settings never verified by hardware (cheaper)
<whitequark>
this is of course even more so for giant robots. ever wondered why are they powered by an RTOS?
<whitequark>
or what a true RTOS is?
<whitequark>
a true RTOS is an OS, and an environment, where the time required to respond to any event has a strict upper bound.
<whitequark>
as per 4-letter passwords... pray you'll never ever see how, for example, our banks work. you'll obtain an irresistible urge to store your money in a pickle jar for the rest of your life.
<Nuck>
whitequark: My bank is a startup that forces long-ass passwords
<Nuck>
I'm quite content with this.
<Nuck>
As for RTOS, yeah, I know about it. I know a guy who used one to build a huge-ass 3D printer that could, in theory, build another of itself, given the right supplies
<whitequark>
Nuck: no, your bank isn't
<Nuck>
haha true
<whitequark>
it's basically a frontend to 40-year-old COBOL code which no one is able to maintain anymore
<Nuck>
whitequark: I've heard that some parts of the COBOL are now being redone in C these days though
<whitequark>
there are better interpreters and transpilers to C indeed
<Nuck>
My professor works on such things for hte government
<Nuck>
Also does rewrites in Java
<whitequark>
this doesn't change the fact that the bank executives are extremely conservative
<whitequark>
and it would be decades until the code will be written on something more modern
<Nuck>
whitequark: They like to read the COBOL I'm sure
<whitequark>
if ever
<whitequark>
Nuck: they don't care; they simply resist any change.
<Nuck>
Eventually it'll happen, once banking regulations go out the window and some startup realizes they can pounce on it
<whitequark>
I have extreme doubts about that
<Nuck>
whitequark: I'm referring to a complete government collapse, when I say "out the window"
<whitequark>
unrelated
<Nuck>
Banking regulations don't exist if there's nobody capable of enforcing them
<whitequark>
besides
<whitequark>
have you ever heard of a startup which "revolutionized" an industry?
<Nuck>
And if there's no regulations, eventually some crazy bastard will implement it in C, and then there'll be bindings to Ruby, etc.
<whitequark>
except IT
<Nuck>
whitequark: Amazon revolutionized fulfillment, or so I've been told
<whitequark>
Amazon for sure has huge warehouses, but Walmart does either
<whitequark>
lolwat gorilla glass is 50 year old or so
<purr>
lol
<Nuck>
whitequark: Yes, but they hadn't produced it in such thin plates, ever
<whitequark>
again, you confuse the reason and the consequence
<Nuck>
I read a huge-ass writeup on it by corning's R&D
<Nuck>
Apple went to corning, requested a thin plate of glass with amazing strenth, they provided gorilla glass
<whitequark>
link
<Nuck>
Hold om, lemme get the article...
<whitequark>
ah well, found it
<Nuck>
Well shit, I can't find the article, but it got to #1 on HN
<Nuck>
Ah, found it?
<whitequark>
wikipedia links to it
<Nuck>
Ah
<Nuck>
Not surprising
<whitequark>
besides
<whitequark>
this is *still* IT
<whitequark>
(and it's not like Apple was a startup at that point)
<Nuck>
If you have such a broad definition of IT, then yeah it's a problem :P
<whitequark>
it's just that startups have a very peculiar defintion of "innovation"
<Nuck>
haha this is also true
<Nuck>
Aha! I just thought of a field startups innovated!
<Nuck>
EDUCATION.
<Nuck>
I have experience in this field, I come from a family FILLED with teachers
<Nuck>
No less than 3 directly related to me, plus a few more beyond that
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<whitequark>
Nuck: hm. that is correct.
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<purr> elliottcable: a box of lights
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<Nuck>
Every time I hear the term "Diffie-Hellman" I think of a sex move.
<Nuck>
Like, "I Diffie Hellmanned her, and she was like putty in my hands."
<purr>
<judofyr> elliottcable: what's up with sephr and OMFG, or whatever it was called again?
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<sephr>
any good movies come out these past 50 years?
<PragCypher>
rubber
<PragCypher>
its a movie about a tire that becomes self aware and kills people with its telekenetic power
<PragCypher>
a must see
<alexgordon>
lol
<purr>
lol
<alexgordon>
elliott said he didn't like it
<PragCypher>
tbh it was good and bad
<PragCypher>
it was waaaaay too slow
<PragCypher>
but it had its moments
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<purr>
<micahjohnston> but the discussion of how sociopolitical dynamics lead to particular fat-carb ratios in MREs versus USDA recommendations for civilians is qutie interesting
<whitequark>
re Diffie-Hellman
<whitequark>
there is some great fun in russian with participles and gerunds and nouns which look exactly like those two
<whitequark>
but you gotta be russian to understand
<whitequark>
"он вокзал её целую жаркую ночь"
<whitequark>
also, "батарея -- это же деепричастие! что делая? батарея"
<alexgordon>
just realized there's no H in russian