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<glowcoil> whitequark: still not seeing how it's "irrelevant"
<glowcoil> whitequark: I'm not at all talkint about nontextual editors her
<glowcoil> e
<glowcoil> whitequark: sure there is shit like livereload for sublime and stuff, but they're always like, a thing you have to set up yourself
<glowcoil> whitequark: and still very limited compared to what an ide can do
<glowcoil> whitequark: like, take a look at Unity for game dev
<alexgordon> this is like the world's slowest argument
<glowcoil> whitequark: you can't change a constant in your text file by dragging a bar and have it change in your running program by using text editors and command lines and batch processes
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<devyn> kinda neat
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<whitequark> glowcoil: ah I see
<whitequark> glowcoil: see on one hand that is included in my dislike for "batch processes" and hence we agree
<whitequark> on other one that thing doesn't even make sense for programming in general
<whitequark> it only makes sense for a certain small subclass of interactive software
<whitequark> so it's a neat, needed, but very concrete measure
<whitequark> oh and if you had a working Livetalk impl, "dragging a bar" would be trivial to implement on top of that ;)
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<whitequark> lol, I remembered tonight's dream
<purr> lol
<whitequark> I was fighting with my window manager, which attempted to put floating windows on all the workspaces at once
<whitequark> wtf
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<whitequark> hey devyn
<whitequark> you're canadian right?
<whitequark> can you help me with one thing? ^^
<joelteon> haha nerd
<whitequark> joelteon: what?
<joelteon> wrong room
<glowcoil> adsf
* purr scolds glowcoil and puts them in a time out.
<whitequark> asdf
<whitequark> ...
<glowcoil> whitequark: right, but there are definite equivalents for e.g. writing a parser (instantly see the trees resulting from various inputs as you change your rules) etc.
<glowcoil> whitequark: ^O^Oasdf
<whitequark> asdf
* purr scolds whitequark and puts them in a time out.
<whitequark> ha
<whitequark> glowcoil: I dunno, you should write unit tests for that
<whitequark> I mean, unit tests + guard... just work today
<glowcoil> i'm thinking more of an exploratory thing
<glowcoil> instant feedback
<glowcoil> unit tests are not at all the same
<whitequark> dunno. parser thing really feels like an overspecialized case
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<whitequark> oh god this woman and her face
<joelteon> :{
<whitequark> no
<whitequark> :}
<whitequark> or even
<whitequark>
<whitequark> er, no
<whitequark> that looks dumb on monospace
<whitequark> ⌇:}
<devyn> whitequark: comparative studies of the intracellular trafficking of several classes of deasaldlkasjdlkasjized drug nanocarriers
<joelteon> absolutely
<whitequark> devyn: what
<devyn> whitequark: the title of the poster in the background
<devyn> whitequark: oh yes, also, I am indeed canadian
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<whitequark> ah
<whitequark> devyn: can you phone a company for me and maybe order half a gallon of a liquid and send it to me via EMS?
<devyn> what kind of liquid? o.O
<whitequark> a perfluorocarbon
<whitequark> don't worry, it's nontoxic, nonvolatile, not flammable and is not harmful to ozone layer
<devyn> eh... I'd really rather not... can't you order it directly somehow?
<whitequark> unfortunately not, I'm speaking to various organizations for about a month already
<whitequark> they all want only to deal with businesses and not individuals
<whitequark> however this one sells directly to individuals. but for some reason only to Canadians.
<devyn> yeah, I'm kinda worried there might be a legal reason for that
<whitequark> no, there's no legal reason
<whitequark> the only reason is the liquid is used for kinda industrial processes and simply almost no individuals ever wanted to buy it
<whitequark> read the technical data and MSDS for it. it's about as dangerous as water
<whitequark> it's even called "Fluor*inert*", damnit
<devyn> oh, I've seen that before!
<whitequark> oh?
<devyn> yeah, someone was talking about trying to do a PC build submerged in that stuff but realized it would be too expensive :p
<whitequark> yeah, it costs like liquid gold
<whitequark> like, I found where I can buy 100ml for 50 CHF
<whitequark> that's $56
<whitequark> devyn: so... can you call them?
<devyn> the website says I could just email them
<whitequark> hm, that would probably also work
<devyn> not sure how I'd ship it to you though. what's EMS
<whitequark> could you just ask whether they could deliver you 500ml-1l of the liquid?
<whitequark> "express mail service"
<whitequark> basically just send me an express parcel
<devyn> looks like I send it via canada post and then they handle that
<devyn> ?
<whitequark> yeah, that's how it usually works
<joelteon> hey devyn is canada post usually slow
<devyn> joelteon: private couriers are usually better for packages, but canada post delivers letters pretty quickly
<joelteon> hmm, ok
<joelteon> maybe it's a package thing
<joelteon> i ordered a pair of shoes from a place in canada
<joelteon> they told me 2-9 business days
<joelteon> and we're coming up on a month now
<devyn> oh jesus, did you get a tracking number?
<joelteon> yep
<devyn> well if it's still in canada post's possession, you could call them and complain
<joelteon> yeah, maybe I should
<devyn> do you have an event log on there too?
<joelteon> yeah, it's two events
<joelteon> submitted by shipper in burnaby, then picked up in vancouver
<devyn> weird, I'd definitely call, that sounds like it might have gotten stolen or lost or something
<joelteon> yeah i'll call them
<devyn> because burnaby is only like a half hour drive from vancouver
<joelteon> ok the phone isn't even ringing
<joelteon> i don't think i've ever called canada before
<devyn> whitequark: okay, yeah, sure, I'll help you... should I just ask for 1L and a price and whether they can ship here?
<whitequark> devyn: yup! and thanks.
<devyn> emailed
<devyn> work that D
<whitequark> wat
<devyn> defense, I assume, but can also mean dick
<devyn> :p
<joelteon> is there a decent stream of the olympics somewhere
<joelteon> that isn't NBC
<whitequark> lemme look
<devyn> CBC, but idk if it's open to non-canadians
<joelteon> ooh maybe it'll be russian commentary
<joelteon> probably not gonna find out, my internet always goes to shit on sundays
<devyn> for that you have to hit 'ru
<devyn> 'ru'
<devyn> sochi2014.com just links to CBC anyway
<devyn> seriously, if there's one thing CBC is good at, it's the olympics
<devyn> other than that they're pretty shit
<whitequark> it does?
<whitequark> it doesn't for me
<devyn> oh, probably because I'm in Canada
<devyn> just realized that
<devyn> lopl
<devyn> lol*
<purr> lol
<devyn> it says Watch on... "All broadcasters" | "CBC" | "Radio-Canada"
<whitequark> I don't really hear any commentary at all
<whitequark> so probably it's "international"
<joelteon> heh
<joelteon> I can't watch anything online on cbc because i'm not in canada
<devyn> figures
<devyn> region blocking, eh
<devyn> locking*
<joelteon> also the sochi website is completely unreadable
<devyn> lol
<purr> lol
<joelteon> fuck haskell
<devyn> "I can picture the downvoters: ponytailed atheist/socialist pothead who likes haskell and thinks he's the smartest thing on earth, the idiot, a sanctimonious smug scumbag with shit for brain."
<devyn> I still like Haskell
<joelteon> yeah me too
<devyn> sure, it's really high level FP,
<joelteon> ooh I can download 715 megabytes in only 36 minutes
<whitequark> I can download a single 1080p HD episode (~600MB) in about 1.5 min
<joelteon> yeah
<joelteon> well, keep in mind i have comcast on a weekend
<joelteon> having a connection at all is exceptionally good
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