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<glowcoil>
whitequark: still not seeing how it's "irrelevant"
<glowcoil>
whitequark: I'm not at all talkint about nontextual editors her
<glowcoil>
e
<glowcoil>
whitequark: sure there is shit like livereload for sublime and stuff, but they're always like, a thing you have to set up yourself
<glowcoil>
whitequark: and still very limited compared to what an ide can do
<glowcoil>
whitequark: like, take a look at Unity for game dev
<alexgordon>
this is like the world's slowest argument
<glowcoil>
whitequark: you can't change a constant in your text file by dragging a bar and have it change in your running program by using text editors and command lines and batch processes
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<whitequark>
glowcoil: ah I see
<whitequark>
glowcoil: see on one hand that is included in my dislike for "batch processes" and hence we agree
<whitequark>
on other one that thing doesn't even make sense for programming in general
<whitequark>
it only makes sense for a certain small subclass of interactive software
<whitequark>
so it's a neat, needed, but very concrete measure
<whitequark>
oh and if you had a working Livetalk impl, "dragging a bar" would be trivial to implement on top of that ;)
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<whitequark>
lol, I remembered tonight's dream
<purr>
lol
<whitequark>
I was fighting with my window manager, which attempted to put floating windows on all the workspaces at once
<whitequark>
wtf
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<whitequark>
hey devyn
<whitequark>
you're canadian right?
<whitequark>
can you help me with one thing? ^^
<joelteon>
haha nerd
<whitequark>
joelteon: what?
<joelteon>
wrong room
<glowcoil>
adsf
* purr
scolds glowcoil and puts them in a time out.
<whitequark>
asdf
<whitequark>
...
<glowcoil>
whitequark: right, but there are definite equivalents for e.g. writing a parser (instantly see the trees resulting from various inputs as you change your rules) etc.
<glowcoil>
whitequark: ^O^Oasdf
<whitequark>
asdf
* purr
scolds whitequark and puts them in a time out.
<whitequark>
ha
<whitequark>
glowcoil: I dunno, you should write unit tests for that
<whitequark>
I mean, unit tests + guard... just work today
<glowcoil>
i'm thinking more of an exploratory thing
<glowcoil>
instant feedback
<glowcoil>
unit tests are not at all the same
<whitequark>
dunno. parser thing really feels like an overspecialized case
<devyn>
"I can picture the downvoters: ponytailed atheist/socialist pothead who likes haskell and thinks he's the smartest thing on earth, the idiot, a sanctimonious smug scumbag with shit for brain."
<devyn>
I still like Haskell
<joelteon>
yeah me too
<devyn>
sure, it's really high level FP,
<joelteon>
ooh I can download 715 megabytes in only 36 minutes
<whitequark>
I can download a single 1080p HD episode (~600MB) in about 1.5 min
<joelteon>
yeah
<joelteon>
well, keep in mind i have comcast on a weekend
<joelteon>
having a connection at all is exceptionally good