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<willmore> ssvb, I think the issue with 3.0V being used on the GPIO is not WRT logic levels, but when it's used as a power supply for an external 3.3V device. 3.0V is just above 3.3V-10% which is on the lower edge of the accepted range for a 3.3V device. A little voltage drop could push it out of spec.
<willmore> Optionally, how would the SoC deal with getting a > 3.0V input on a GPIO if the Vio was set to 3.0V? I assume it has clamping diodes on the inputs. That might cause the external device to have to source more current on that signal line than it's designed for.
<willmore> Either the SoC or the external device could be damaged, maybe.
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<nikre> the uart output has a lot of missing characters. i use it for openelec.
<nikre> isnt the baud rate 115200?
<KotCzarny> might be some interference?
<nikre> very short cable like 10-15cm. could it still be that?
<KotCzarny> interference from power brick?
<wens> loose cable?
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<nikre> btw i try it on orange pi pc
<nikre> maybe a special case for it?
<nikre> or my usb-ttl is bad
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<nikre> another thing: i enabled tvout on opipc. i see the openelec logo but when kodi starts signal is lost.
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<KotCzarny> hrm, how to change simplefb resolution in mainline?
<KotCzarny> it doesnt seem to react to cmdline option starting with disp.
<KotCzarny> it seems to correctly pick up hdmi monitor resolution automatically (which is nice), but i would like to run in lower mode (ie. 640x512 for speeding things up)
<nikre> retro pi?
<KotCzarny> nah, trying to make mplayer workable/watchable
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<ssvb> KotCzarny: for configuring simplefb you need to change the screen resolution in U-Boot
<ssvb> as for mplayer on the mainline kernel, it needs at least yuv planes support for kms
<KotCzarny> yeah, noticed that
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<KotCzarny> ssvb, how do i change res in uboot?
<KotCzarny> (my google skills fail me regarding sunxi/hdmi/fb res)
<ssvb> that's a good question, right now it uses edid but maybe there is a way to override the resolution using some environment variable
<ssvb> if you find a solution, please document it in the wiki :-)
<KotCzarny> hehe
<KotCzarny> ssvb, any chance to add yuv planes support to fbturbo? xv entension?
<ssvb> xv extension is the x server thing
<ssvb> fbturbo is the ddx, or in other words a glue between the kernel and the x server
<ssvb> the kernel needs to provide an interface for setting up yuv planes/layers
<KotCzarny> i was thinking about some kind of emulation
<KotCzarny> virtual device
<ssvb> oh, do you mean software accelerated yuv->rgb conversion and scaling?
<KotCzarny> yup
<ssvb> yes, it's kind of been on my low priority todo list for years
<KotCzarny> lol
<ssvb> the software rendering backend needs this for feature parity with glamor
<KotCzarny> it would allow for more general solution than trying to find out why it uses c based conversion
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<KotCzarny> right now:
<KotCzarny> [swscaler @ 0xd7c748]bicubic scaler, from yuv420p to bgra using C
<KotCzarny> [swscaler @ 0xd7c748]No accelerated colorspace conversion found from yuv420p to bgra.
<KotCzarny> [swscaler @ 0xd7c748]using unscaled yuv420p -> bgra special converter
<KotCzarny> another funky thing is its configuration script saying neon is unsupported on this cpu (a20)
<ssvb> swscaler in mplayer is not particularly good
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<ssvb> and nobody has probably optimized it with neon yet
<ssvb> if mplayer is compiled without neon support, then video decoding is also slow
<KotCzarny> that's why having emulated yuv* modes in fbturbo would be nice general solution
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<ssvb> it is even necessary as a bugfix - https://github.com/ssvb/xf86-video-fbturbo/issues/17
<KotCzarny> 2013, heh
<KotCzarny> any chance making it multithreaded too?
<ssvb> sure
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<KotCzarny> emulation for different modes? (ie. neon scaler too)
<ssvb> I wouldn't recommend it, the performance is not going to be great
<ssvb> and the image quality too
<KotCzarny> worse than current scalers in apps?
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<ssvb> such approach may be somewhat acceptable for video, because video needs only 25 fps and is not particularly sharp
<KotCzarny> yup, and game console emulators
<ssvb> but if you start scaling small text, then it becomes really ugly
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<KotCzarny> make it configurable?
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<ssvb> or do not bother wasting time on this at all? which is kind of what I'm doing now :-)
<KotCzarny> hehe
<KotCzarny> well, it would tremendously help boards without proper x drivers
<KotCzarny> as it is the fbturbo case already
<ssvb> but you really can just change the screen resolution in U-Boot, so that all the scaling will be done by your LCD monitor
<KotCzarny> assuming i'll find out how
<KotCzarny> as i said, my google-fu is failing in this regard
<ssvb> oh, that's the U-Boot source-code-reading-fu
<KotCzarny> oh.
<ssvb> and maybe u-boot-patching-fu
<KotCzarny> offtopic: http://linux-sunxi.org/Category:Mainline_U-Boot seems a bit outdated
<nikre> is it expected to have no sound on opipc tvout? or my cable ground wire needs rewiring?
<KotCzarny> what tv out? composite or hdmi?
<KotCzarny> ahm. hdmi.
<KotCzarny> check aplay -l
<nikre> tvout composite
<KotCzarny> you might change default audio card
<nikre> openelec
<KotCzarny> tvout is video only?
<nikre> i couldnt have sound on
<KotCzarny> and i dont remember opipc to even have composite
<nikre> composite is the red white yellow cable right?
<nikre> trrrs
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<KotCzarny> oh, it has it on the jack
<KotCzarny> then its not the matter of trrrs but lack of audio in mainline for h3
<KotCzarny> as above, check output of aplay -l
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<nikre> the tvout output is like zoomed. could it be because the tv expects 4:3 ratio?
<nikre> or is it refresh rate problem?
<KotCzarny> remember, analog video is most likely 576 lines max
<KotCzarny> so higher resolutions will have to be scaled to that
<huawei> i notice R40 uses Mali400 GPU, which mean we get kernel 3.4 again?
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<KotCzarny> hrm, setenv video-mode sunxi:1024x768-24@50,monitor=dvi,hpd=0,edid=0
<KotCzarny> should do the trick but is ignored
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<KotCzarny> hrrrm, is it possible to set env options in boot.cmd ?
<KotCzarny> i've added some debug and it's ignored
<plaes> could you try videomode instead of video-mode ?
<KotCzarny> im adding more debug
<KotCzarny> in video_get_video_mode its called video-mode (videomodes.c:237)
<plaes> ok
<KotCzarny> yup, getenv returns null string
<KotCzarny> ie. char *p = getenv("video-mode");
<KotCzarny> maybe this getenv happens before boot.cmd is parsed?
<KotCzarny> yup2, hardcoding the string in this place make it work
<KotCzarny> is it a bug in uboot or im setting variable wrong?
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<KotCzarny> umkay, 640x480 mode works, and actually makes videos watchable even on underclocked bpi-m1
<KotCzarny> :)
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<KotCzarny> (and that is on fbdev, not even x with fbturbo
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<Da_Coynul> montjoie: I had to revert both OPI PCs back to v2 of your sun8i emac driver because of problem I told you about yesterday.
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<mdsrv> hi, i have a question, do u know where i can get a Linux image for Banana PI M2+?
<mdsrv> for 8GB SD card
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<mdsrv> every distro from here http://www.banana-pi.org/m2plus-download.html seems to support >8GB SD cards
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<KotCzarny> h3, try armbian
<KotCzarny> and forget about banana-pi.org
<mdsrv> thx, i will try it out
<mdsrv> why should i forget?
<KotCzarny> long story, in short quality of their images isnt stellar
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<Da_Coynul> even the OPI that was working was dropping too many packets so was unusable for streaming audio.
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<nikre> KotCzarny, what is it you are trying? do u use armbian?
<nikre> u want to stream camera?
<KotCzarny> nikre, nope, use my box as a video player using mainline kernel
<nikre> 4.x armbian?
<KotCzarny> Linux banana 4.8.0-rc7 #1 SMP Sun Sep 25 21:10:30 CEST 2016 armv7l GNU/Linux
<nikre> hdmi working on that?
<KotCzarny> on a20, yes
<nikre> oh ok
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<montjoie> Da_Coynul: with v2 it works ? (and v3 ?)
<Da_Coynul> montjoie: v2 works, v3 does not.
<Da_Coynul> did you have a chance to look at the ethtool output I posted?
<montjoie> yes
<montjoie> nothing strange, but low value of all counter
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<Da_Coynul> I did notice that the yellow LED stays on all the time with v2 and was always off with v3. Don't know if that is related...
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<mdsrv> how long does it take to build rootfs from scratch?
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<KotCzarny> depends
<KotCzarny> if you compile kernel/uboot add few minutes
<mdsrv> k
<KotCzarny> but grab ready made image
<mdsrv> yeah, i know, its being downloaded
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<mdsrv> oh, armbian is really small
<KotCzarny> yup
<mdsrv> i wonder how it is made
<KotCzarny> click 'sources' on armbian.com
<mdsrv> yeah, but how do people investigate things without the producer company support?
<KotCzarny> that question didnt parse
<mdsrv> hmm
<mdsrv> ok
<KotCzarny> (ie. i didnt understood what are you asking about)
<mdsrv> how can unofficial support be ever possible?
<KotCzarny> because there is NO official support
<mdsrv> ok, so how?
<KotCzarny> whole linux-sunxi is kind of reverse engineering/rewriting software for allwinner chips
<mdsrv> much work
<KotCzarny> yup
<mdsrv> and i suppose nobody gets money for it
<KotCzarny> yup
<mdsrv> sooo sad
<huawei> so allwinner, :P
<KotCzarny> yup
<KotCzarny> still better than broadcom/qualcomm
<mdsrv> why?
<KotCzarny> fewer blobs, some documentation is available
<mdsrv> i thought broadcom/qualcomm are the best in the market
<mdsrv> hmm, ok
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<KotCzarny> best in the sense bully is the 'strongest' boy in school
<mdsrv> oh, i thought the quality is also the highest
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<montjoie> Da_Coynul: could you try V4 without the pm_runtime patch ?
<huawei> mdsrv, but their open source driver is suck
<mdsrv> k
<KotCzarny> if you dont see the source, how can you assure its not crap?
<mdsrv> black box testing
<KotCzarny> 'working' is barely a qualifier
<Da_Coynul> OK, will give it a try.
<mdsrv> btw
<mdsrv> i really admire people who can work after their regular job
<KotCzarny> btw. rockchip is a bit better than allwinner when it comes to open source
<KotCzarny> if you plan on buying some more toys
<mdsrv> i just plan to do sth for money, but good to know
<huawei> KotCzarny, as a headless server, rockchip is better than allwinner
<mdsrv> why is that?
<huawei> but it seems rockchip has many small problem in multimedia
<huawei> using mainline kernel
<mdsrv> KotCzarny: works like a charm, thx ;]
<KotCzarny> thank the linux-sunxi and armbian teams
<mdsrv> ;]
<mdsrv> i will thank properly
<KotCzarny> best way would be submitting patches/knowledge
<mdsrv> i know, but i thought about donation ;]
<mdsrv> its easier to give money than my own time
<mdsrv> which is limited
<KotCzarny> time is money
<mdsrv> true ;]
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<nikre> so your money is not limited?
<nikre> Kappa
<mdsrv> i think others can make some things faster using money than taking my time instead
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<wens> qualcomm smartphone chip bsps are .....
<wens> according to a friend at htc, has various power management issues :p
<Da_Coynul> montjoie: v4 without pm_runtime patch seems to be working OK.
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<codekipper> wens: ping
<codekipper> wanted to have a chat about the new clocking setup
<wens> codekipper: yes?
<codekipper> had spdif working on my A31 before the migration and couldn't get it working with the new setup
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<codekipper> just had a play with getting i2s and spdif working on the h3
<wens> codekipper: uh, i sent some fixes for the clk flags for audio and video
<codekipper> spdif will play the track ultra fast
<wens> do you have those?
<montjoie> Da_Coynul: let it work 24h and confirm me tomorow that it worked without it
<wens> they should already be in mripard's branch
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<codekipper> I'm ontop of sunxi-wip but I do sync to maximes repo
<codekipper> I'll have a look
<Da_Coynul> montjoie: sure, no problem.
<codekipper> i2s was failing at get_clkrate
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<wens> could you look at /sys/kernel/debug/clk/clk_summary?
<wens> and check the clk rate for spdif?
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<codekipper> I'm ontop of sunxi-wip but I do sync to maximes repo
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<codekipper> here is my cat of the clk dirs
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<codekipper> my branch is synced to clk-for-4.9
<codekipper> and that seems to have all the patches that i've seen that you've pushed
<wens> codekipper: the clock rate looks correct
<codekipper> yeah..i print it out during the trigger...however track only plays for seconds
<codekipper> no audio
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<mdsrv> r there any wifi problems on h3?
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<KotCzarny> h3 doesnt have wifi
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<KotCzarny> so your question is: 'does usb dongle ***** work?'
<mdsrv> wait wait
<mdsrv> ah, there is an external chip on banana pi m2+
<KotCzarny> those onboard wifis are usually usb or sdio cards
<mdsrv> k
<KotCzarny> has your answers
<KotCzarny> and of course board page
<mosajjal> mdsrv: I don't think it's gonna be a H3 problem, if the kernel supports it, it's gonna work.
<KotCzarny> and most likely armbian comes preconfigured already for your board
<mdsrv> ok
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<nikre> what does sunxi mean?
<mdsrv> it means "golden dragon"
<mdsrv> to be serious, it is a general name for chips with names sun3i, sun4i etc
<mdsrv> x stands for any digit
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<KotCzarny> marvel espressobin board has launched kickstarter
<KotCzarny> 30usd shipping, lol?
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<KotCzarny> drat. 79usd is getting a bit pricey, though still interesting
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<jelle> that's a lot
<jelle> the shipping part
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<KotCzarny> wtf. shipping to poland is 50usd?!
<KotCzarny> nicaragua is 30 :/
<KotCzarny> vietnam 30 too.
<KotCzarny> seriously.
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<jelle> KotCzarny: 30 for me
<jelle> KotCzarny: that's almost the price of the board so that's kinda >_>
<KotCzarny> well, it was worse for pine64 ;)
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<jelle> KotCzarny: 20/15?
<KotCzarny> wasnt it 15/20 ?
<KotCzarny> 36,781 backers pledged $1,731,465 to help bring this project to life.
<KotCzarny> wow, pine64 got moneys
<KotCzarny> and that's not counting shipping toppings
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<vpeter> Where are those prices shown?
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<KotCzarny> on kickstarter page
<vpeter> found it.
<vpeter> Are they making board itself cheap but get some extra money with shipping? 30 $ for slovenia - way to much. And then I have to add tax.
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<miasma> where do they ship from? china? :D it can't be that expensive
<miasma> i think we have one of the most expensive mail in finland and it's no more than around $30 to ship a SBC to china
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<apritzel> seems like a reasonable move to avoid running into issues when the demand is very high: then you have to spend quite some money to get every board on the road
<apritzel> so they can afford to hire people to do the packaging and stuff
<apritzel> miasma: and skimming through the list the only country that's less than 30 bucks is the US (15$), so I guess this is the origin
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<miasma> k
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