<wpwrak>
phase I: a hot day with menacing clouds. phase II: the storm (just a few gusts for now). phase III: the rain (just one or two drops so far_. phase IV is where it gets interesting ...
<nicksydney>
wpwrak: tried printing a box inside xfig original measurement from the screen is 12cm something...it printed out 6cm something
<nicksydney>
so it's printing 1/2 of what is in the screen..:(
<wpwrak>
time to take a good hard look at the printer driver
<wpwrak>
maybe it thinks it's being told to print A4 on A5 paper or something
<nicksydney>
let me see printer setting
<whitequark>
try evince for printing pdf/ps
<whitequark>
it produced the best results for me
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<nicksydney>
wohoooo.....
<nicksydney>
able to find the setting..it print 10cm now :)
<nicksydney>
now back to printing anelok
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<whitequark>
nicksydney: I really don't know, I suggest you try and use several of your local brands of photo paper
<whitequark>
even if it would be named the same, who knows whether HP actually delivers identical paper to RU and AU
<wpwrak>
whitequark: "in russia, even paper is fake ?"
<wpwrak>
nicksydney: ah, and when the time comes to remove the toner: you can use acetone but paint thinner/remover will do as well, is easy to get (acetone is often restricted), and likely safer than acetone
<wpwrak>
IF you get acetone, make sure it never gets near the peroxide. that is, unless you're interested in making effective but highly unstable bombs :)
<whitequark>
wpwrak: that's not what I meant, though I won't be surprised either
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<wpwrak>
now .. why the hell does anelok idle at 49 mA ... ?
<wpwrak>
after reset, endless loop, 7.9 mA. okay. that's reasonable.
<wpwrak>
then i initialize all the gpios. power should go DOWN ...
<wpwrak>
hmm. before display_init, 4.0 mA. after 49 mA. that's a dark screen. making those black photons must be very difficult.
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<wpwrak>
hmm. nCS was shorted to ground. apparently by magic.
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<larsc>
dark magic
<wpwrak>
hmm, running from battery doesn't look good
<wpwrak>
even at only 20 mA (display + MCU, no RF, no MMC), the CR2032 collapses quickly
<wpwrak>
i've heard of "specialized" papers, yes. some people say they're great, some people say they're useless, some people have an opinion in between. so pick one ;-)
<nicksydney>
hahaha
<nicksydney>
very hard to believe :
<nicksydney>
:)
<nicksydney>
i read in a number of blogs and most of them says that glossy magazine paper works
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<wpwrak>
it may have a high risk of the paper disintegrating. also, if it has something printed on it, it'll be harder to see if toner stayed on the paper
<rjeffries>
wpwrak what are your thoughts re battery life? is it something you can solve with more sophiticated software, or more fundamental hardware issues to solve?
<wpwrak>
dunno yet. but if already 20 mA are problem, that's bad.may need a different battery :(
<rjeffries>
coin cell battery is cute but such low capacity. you could redesign with 2xAAA with tradeoff that the case is thicker. BFD
<wpwrak>
if AAA, then 1 x AAA. 2 x AAA is so 2000.
<wpwrak>
anyway, afk for a bit
<rjeffries>
LOL
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<rjeffries>
nicksydney I'm following your efforts to make an anelok PCB with interest.
<rjeffries>
wpwrak (when you return) I thought Cortex M0+ have VERY low power consumption. or does the problem lie elsewhere in the circuit. Maybe with 1xAAA you can get 12 month battery life? "Replace batteries at Christmas" would be something one might remember to do.
<roh>
i dont like batteries. use a small li-something pack and recharge on usb
<lekernel>
hi roh
<roh>
hi lekernel
<lekernel>
roh, could you hook me up with the vacuum guy? (forgot his name...) he was supposed to email me, but did not
<roh>
i see... i'll mail him and you
<lekernel>
thx
<rjeffries>
roh wpwrak doesn't like li- because they self-discharge much faster than other battery chemistry.
<rjeffries>
if wpwrak were to change his mind, a commodity small cellphone battery is very cost effective. 3rd party battery for Kyocera JAX phone are cheap and small 3.7 V 700 mAh
<rjeffries>
my opinion is anelok need not be as tiny as the current design is.
<roh>
rjeffries: if one uses it as much as i think needs to be done to make sense of having one, self-discharge shouldnt be an issue.
<roh>
just have a few hundred mAh.. 200 should be plenty
<roh>
recharge in 10-30 minutes on usb
<roh>
same socket you plug it for 'playing out' a passphrase
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<roh>
but i can understand the shipping/whatever implications
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<nicksydney>
morning all
<nicksydney>
wpwrak: what's new ?
<nicksydney>
rjeffries: cool..the more the merrier and we can exhchange ideas
<nicksydney>
wpwrak: collected quite a number of different magazines yesterday and now just have to wait on PCB :(
<nicksydney>
wpwrak: have you ever "reused" copper board that has been toner transferred ? would that be effective ? I was thinking of reusing the one that I have used with the toner transfer and clean it with acetone perhaps ?
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