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<perry> I'm having issues compiling eventmachine gem, can someone take a look? https://gist.github.com/3910586
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<judofyr> perry: or maybe you need a -devel package
<judofyr> perry: libstdc++-devel or libstdc++-dev
<perry> thanks I will try
<perry> judofyr: thank you! installed libstdc++-devel on rhel 6.3
<judofyr> perry: awesome!
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<KU0N> Hello
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<KU0N> I have a silly question, given for example 1024, how can I get 10 out of it (2**10), is there a smart way that doesn't involve a loop?
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<KU0N> omg, I'm so stupid it's make me cry
<andrewvos> Math.log(1024) / Math.log(2)
<KU0N> Yea I know that at the math level, but for some reason while coding I totaly forgot about it:P
<KU0N> Thanks
<andrewvos> KU0N: Yeah, you're probably better off than me. I have no idea what that does.
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<andrewvos> KU0N: But I'm good at google :)
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<KU0N> Yea thanks.
<judofyr> whitequark: how's it going?
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<banisterfiend> hi, anyone here use rbenv?
<judofyr> nope. rvm all the time.
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<khaase> anyone using rspec?
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<khaase> how can I tell rspec-mock to return whatever the method some object should_receive would return normally?
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<judofyr> khaase: I've found RR to be easier for such cases: https://github.com/btakita/rr#mockproxy
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<judofyr> woah, it hasn't been updated in a year
<khaase> judofyr: ahm, yeah, but it seems like I have to wrap the receiving object with something there
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<khaase> judofyr: same goes for other spy libs
<khaase> judofyr: I don't like that, as I don't pass in the object
<khaase> judofyr: so I'll have to rebind constants
<khaase> which sucks
<khaase> I think I'd rather mock the response, then
<khaase> but that sucks, too
<judofyr> khaase: any_instance_of(User) { |u| mock.proxy(u).foo) }
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<khaase> it's not an instance, you
<khaase> yo
<khaase> sorry
<khaase> I'm trying to expect an instance creation
<khaase> it 'defaults to single_page mode' do
<khaase> Travis::SSO::SinglePage.should_receive(:new)
<khaase> app.new
<khaase> end
<judofyr> in that case, this will work: mock.proxy(Travis::SSO::SinglePage).new
<khaase> I want new to still return the normal return value
<judofyr> "mock.proxy replaces the method on the object with an expectation, implementation, and also invokes the actual method."
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<khaase> ah, cool, then I misread the examples
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<andrewvos> Is this normal lately?
<andrewvos> Fetching gem metadata from http://rubygems.org/.
<andrewvos> Error Bundler::HTTPError during request to dependency API
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<ddd> yes
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<ddd> they disabled the api endpoints (some issue. qrush says they're working on it) it just gets the full source index so stuff still works. known error and issue
<banisterfiend> andrewvos: check this out: http://www.devswag.com/products/pry-stickers-4
<banisterfiend> :D
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<Uranio> how could define a method havin 3 (or more) parameters but only one needed, the others as optional
<andrewvos> Uranio: def hello(one, two=31, three=232)
<andrewvos> Uranio: Default parameters
<andrewvos> haha nice banisterfiend
<andrewvos> I would put that on my macbook but I'm getting a matt black cover for it
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<Uranio> thanks andrewvos
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<andrewvos> pleasure
<andrewvos> In IntelliJ I'm getting "cannot load such file -- acouchi/rspec/matchers (LoadError)
<andrewvos> "
<andrewvos> With github.com/AndrewVos/acouchi
<andrewvos> Any idea why that might be?
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<andrewvos> Command line works great
<andrewvos> Guessing it's something to do with my gem, because everything else seems to be ok.
<andrewvos> Oh, I've installed the gem with `rake install` in the gem path. I haven't installed it from rubygems.
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<banisterfiend> andrewvos: i got my new MBA, it's the shit.
<banisterfiend> 8 gig ram on a tiny 11" machine :))
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<andrewvos> Niiice
<andrewvos> banisterfiend: I got a Mid 2011 MBA... I can't upgrade the RAM cause it's soldered in there :(
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<andrewvos> Oh it's an 11"
<andrewvos> I'm pretty jealous
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<andrewvos> Any idea about that issue banisterfiend?
<banisterfiend> andrewvos: yea, i had a mid-2011 MBA before, i stupidly only got 2 gig ram on it, it really struggled :(
<andrewvos> I've got four, but it's not that great.
<banisterfiend> spilling beer on it turned out to be a good thing
<andrewvos> Maybe I should buy an 11"
<banisterfiend> ah ok
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<banisterfiend> andrewvos: did you upgrade the processor too?
<andrewvos> What's the max specs you can get on one?
<andrewvos> Never mind that, I'll go to apple.com
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<banisterfiend> andrewvos: you can get 8 gig ram, 512gb SSD, dual-core 2gz ivybridge i7 processor
<banisterfiend> andrewvos: i upgraded the SSD to 256 and bumped the ram to 8 gig, but didnt upgrade the processor
<banisterfiend> andrewvos: i think it's a bad idea to upgrade the processor on the 11" model anyway
<banisterfiend> cos it uses up the battery 10% faster
<banisterfiend> and the battery is bad enough already, only ~5 hours
<zzak> hi bf
<andrewvos> Wow it's not bad
<andrewvos> £1139
<banisterfiend> andrewvos: it'll cost you a fucktonne to get the 512gb SSD though
<banisterfiend> so i just went to 256 which is enough for me
<banisterfiend> zzak: sup
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<andrewvos> banisterfiend: Don't need 128gib
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<zzak> a mid 2011 mba is cheap now
<banisterfiend> andrewvos: you mean you wont go over 128?
<andrewvos> I don't think so
<zzak> is 2012 mba ram soldered?
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<banisterfiend> hmm, i use it as my primary computer these days, so i needed the 256
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<banisterfiend> zzak: yes, so make sure u max it out when u order it
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<andrewvos> banisterfiend: Actually just realised I'm using 200gb on this MBA :/
<banisterfiend> andrewvos: yeah it's really easy to eat it up
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<banisterfiend> when i had 128gb on my last mba i was forever deleting stuff to make room for new stuff
<zzak> i dont think im ordering one anytime soon, just bought a new asus 3 months ago
<andrewvos> banisterfiend: I have no idea what I'm using 200gb on
<zzak> andrewvos: java
<zzak> kill it with fire
<andrewvos> zzak: think so?
<zzak> maybe, im just trolling you
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<andrewvos> I would believe that
<zzak> does osx have a disk usage analyzer?
<wnd> df?-)
<judofyr> zzak: Daisy Disk
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<judofyr> is pretty nice, although the free version has a delay on startup
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<andrewvos> judofyr: Haha I was just googling that
<andrewvos> wnd: df is nice but can never remember the arguments to make output nice
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<wnd> personally I just use "du -s foo bar | sort -nr | head" on gnu/bsd. it's quick to run and almost universally available.
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<judofyr> yeah, I use "du" if I'm I know I have a big folder, but Daisy Disk when I'm like "wtf is taking all of this space?"
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<zzak> sounds like andrew is the second option right now
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<banisterfiend> judofyr: do u know anything about the new iseq struct in 2.0 ?
<judofyr> banisterfiend: nope
<banisterfiend> judofyr: i wanna know the equivalent of iseq->name in 2.0
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<judofyr> haven't followed ruby-core lately
<banisterfiend> seems like some pretty big changes there at least
<ddfreyne> what is iseq?
<judofyr> instruction sequence
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<judofyr> every "block" of Ruby is a different instruction sequence (method, class definition, block)
<judofyr> (rescue, else)
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<judofyr> banisterfiend: I'd look in the RubyVM::InstructionSequence-code and see if it still spits out the ->name
<banisterfiend> i wonder how badly 2.0 breaks debugger this time
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<judofyr> banisterfiend: this maybe: http://rxr.whitequark.org/mri/source/vm_dump.c#244 ?
<judofyr> oh, that doesn't use the iseq
<crankharder> when your one argument to a method is *args, how do i strip out the last, non-blk arg that i expect to be a hash? i know there's some method for that, drawing a blank
<judofyr> crankharder: options = args.last.is_a?(Hash) ? args.pop : {}
<judofyr> crankharder: Rails has a helper method for it
<judofyr> but nothing in Ruby core AFAIK
<crankharder> know what that helper is?
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<judofyr> crankharder: extract_options or something
<judofyr> RSTRING_PTR(iseq->location.label)
<judofyr> RSTRING_PTR(iseq->location.path)
<judofyr> I think
<judofyr> crankharder: extract_options!
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<crankharder> ty
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<Uranio> I wonder why can't suscribe to the ruby talk mailing list
<judofyr> Uranio: hm?
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<whitequark> judofyr: nice. I'm currently at the transformation for turning all the complex method argument variants into a unified array unpacker
<Uranio> judofyr: I suscribed a lot of time but don't get in the list
<judofyr> whitequark: who said Ruby didn't have complex pattern matching? :)
<judofyr> whitequark: but very nice. I assume you do this at a very early stage and just generate "basic" extraction code?
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<whitequark> judofyr: exactly! the multiple assignment is almost on par with haskell's pattern matching
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<whitequark> yes. I get an (args) array as a primitive, and then just unpack it with usual indexing
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<whitequark> nothing fancy or nonstandard. just simple (send :[])
<whitequark> well, in fact I export the `undefined' in rubyland here, but rubinius does that as well
<whitequark> (otherwise you couldn't differ between missing argument and nil
<whitequark> )
<andrewvos> Why would I be getting "cannot load such file -- acouchi/rspec/matchers (LoadError)" with "https://github.com/AndrewVos/acouchi/blob/master/lib/acouchi/rspec/matchers.rb" when I `require "acouchi/rspec/matchers"
<andrewvos> ?
<andrewvos> Is it because there is no module in there?
<whitequark> andrewvos: no
<whitequark> it's because the lib is not in your $LOAD_PATH
<andrewvos> Ok well that's a start
<whitequark> *the lib directory
<andrewvos> whitequark: I failed to mention that I have managed to require "acouchi" and "acouchi/cucumber" already. Only acouchi/rspec/matchers fails.
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<andrewvos> This is 1.9.3 by the way
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<judofyr> andrewvos: well, output $LOAD_PATH and see if you see anything fishy
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<andrewvos> judofyr: Good idea.
<judofyr> whitequark: hm… so if I override Array#[], then I can change unpacking of arguments?
<andrewvos> Wow that's huge ($LOAD_PATH)
<whitequark> judofyr: well, basically, yes. that's why you should not do that :)
<whitequark> I might add an immediate expansion step
<judofyr> whitequark: and I assume you assume that the compiler will be smart enough to inline the method call?
<whitequark> so it would be extracted to (tuple-index (args) $i)
<whitequark> judofyr: obviously
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<judofyr> :)
<whitequark> that's pretty much the whole point of foundry
<matti> Hey whitequark
<judofyr> true
<matti> whitequark: Do you have any way to build Ruby on Windows?
<whitequark> matti: ewww. well. technically I have a winxp vm right now
<matti> Oh dear.
<matti> whitequark: I mean, compile from scratch.
<matti> XP :)
<whitequark> matti: what's your problem?
<matti> whitequark: I need to test File::lutime I've done and part of it is handling Windows API.
<andrewvos> whitequark: The rspec directory doesn't exist!
<matti> whitequark: So I am looking for somebody who might have ability to build Ruby on Windows.
<matti> whitequark: Anyway, sorry to bother.
<whitequark> matti: well, I guess I could build it
<andrewvos> Sorry I mean judofyr ^
<judofyr> andrewvos: :)
<andrewvos> judofyr: What does this meaaaaaan
<zzak> i think you need devkit for that
<andrewvos> judofyr: I'm pretty lost here. What could cause it not to be tehre?
<matti> Hi zzak
<zzak> hi
<andrewvos> judofyr: Never mind I think I got it
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<judofyr> whitequark: man, you've made me really want to create my own little language :)
<judofyr> whitequark: only I kinda want it to be everything (low-level, high-level, concurrent, whatever)
<whitequark> judofyr: check out Rust
<whitequark> it is really really good
<whitequark> unlike some other mozilla products, I'd say...
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<banisterfiend> whitequark: do u know where in the ruby source they hide the symbols?
<banisterfiend> whitequark: i mean some non-static functions are inaccessible
<banisterfiend> do you know where they change their visibility?
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<whitequark> banisterfiend: could you show me an example?
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<whitequark> I think I understand what you mean
<whitequark> but to remember where precisely that code was, I need some clue
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<banisterfiend> ok holdon
<rindolf> Hi all.
<banisterfiend> im looking at the 2.0 codebase now though
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<whitequark> banisterfiend: ie trunk?
<whitequark> I believe it's not yet branched from HEAD
<whitequark> banisterfiend: ahhhh, then I misunderstood you
<whitequark> I had no idea
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<whitequark> well, that option lead to some additional optimization
<whitequark> esp. for LLVM
<banisterfiend> The problem is that these symbols are marked as RUBY_EXTERN, are globally available in the ruby static library, but are not visible in the ruby binary itself. ruby_current_thread, for example, is marked as an external symbol in the data section, and is visible in libruby-static.a but not in ruby:
<banisterfiend> this one in particular is driving me crazy: ^
<banisterfiend> whitequark: it makes writing debuggers very difficult
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<whitequark> banisterfiend: could you use dlopen/dlsym?
<whitequark> if it's exported externally
<whitequark> ah, only in static library, yeah
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<whitequark> I see.
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<banisterfiend> whitequark: this strategy doesnt work anymore in 2.0 https://github.com/nobu/ruby-debug/commit/5bcd44f379c918277ba68d5e5b4d661602a9d66e
<banisterfiend> i need a way of getting the current thread
<zzak> banisterfiend: ever file a ticket?
<banisterfiend> zzak: no i just looked at it tonight for the first time
<banisterfiend> im trying to port binding_of_caller to 2.0
<banisterfiend> anyway this pull request is really important as he gets around some of the visibility issues https://github.com/mark-moseley/ruby-debug/pull/14
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<Spaceghostc2c> banisterfiend: Dude, bruv, we want you to hang out!
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<kith> is there something like ary.shifteach?
<Mon_Ouie> What would it do?
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<kith> like .each but remove the element from self
<Mon_Ouie> So at the end of the loop the array is empty?
<kith> yes
<Mon_Ouie> You could just call clear at the end
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<Mon_Ouie> Or use shift until the array is empty
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<kith> yeah... thought a dedicated method would be cool
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<Mon_Ouie> There is no method that does it already, though (well… reject! called with a block that always true kind of does, but that's ugly)
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<heftig> Mon_Ouie: not that ugly, i think. if consuming an element can fail and terminate the loop, you'd end up with an array that's missing just the elements that were successfully consumed
<heftig> that's at least a possible use, i think
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<heftig> if you want the shifting behavior instead, i guess a method that does "yield shift until empty?" would do
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<mmb> is there any reason that code inside an inherited hook wouldn't be able to see class constants in the subclass?
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<Mon_Ouie> No, but don't forget constants are lexically scoped
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<Mon_Ouie> i.e. just doing AConstantDefinedInASubclass won't work
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<mmb> Mon_Ouie: trying it like this http://pastebin.com/fv3z31Xq
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<Mon_Ouie> Oh, wait, of course there's a reason
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<Mon_Ouie> The hook is called when the subclass is *created*
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<Mon_Ouie> Thus, before you get a chance to define any constant
<erikh> aren't compilers awesome?
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<matti> LOL
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<culturefuturist> am I in the chatroom now?
<culturefuturist> I'm having trouble with carrierwave & Rackspace. I posted my code here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12922980/fogstoragerackspacenotfound-error-when-using-carrierwave-to-upload-to-rack Any ideas?
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<culturefuturist> I'm having trouble with carrierwave & Rackspace. I posted my code here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12922980/fogstoragerackspacenotfound-error-when-using-carrierwave-to-upload-to-rack Any ideas?
<culturefuturist> Is anyone there, or has the forum died?
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<culturefuturist> Anybody home?
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<brunocoelho> culturefuturist: I think it's better you post your issue at #rubyonrails
<brunocoelho> I think they are able to help you more
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<mistym> culturefuturist: People are usually here, sometimes it gets quiet for a bit.
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<whitequark> erikh: they are!
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<erikh> what?
<erikh> oh. delivered so much snark today I forgot about some of it.
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<lteo> does anyone happen to know if there's a way to use ruby's Resolv::DNS class to do a DNS query from a selected source IP? (say if i am on a system with multiple public IPs)
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<erikh> lteo: not afaik.
<lteo> erikh: thanks for confirming. i thought so too based on the docs
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<erikh> Resolv is kind of a weird library, at least the 1.8 version is
<erikh> it doesn't consult nsswitch but it gladly checks /etc/hosts unless you explicitly tell it not to
<erikh> (and you do that by overriding its list of servers, not flipping a bit or anything)
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<rolfb> anyone have any experience with good libraries for reading/writing xls documents with ruby?
<erikh> spreadsheet gem
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<drbrain> there's a better one…
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<drbrain> at least, ^^ writes xslsx files
<erikh> xlsx != xls
<drbrain> which Numbers, Office, etc can read
<erikh> I've never had probs with the spreadsheet gem myself, but the author is pretty annoying.
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<tdy> lol..
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<culturefuturist> I'm having trouble with carrierwave & Rackspace. I posted my code here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12922980/fogstoragerackspacenotfound-error-when-using-carrierwave-to-upload-to-rack Any ideas?
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<tdy> best bet is #rubyonrails
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<culturefuturist> ok. Thanks tdy
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<zzak> you ever wait for your cat to yawn, and stick a pen in his mouth?
<zzak> or your finger
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<jaimef> is there an alternative to Fixnum#gigabytes?
<drbrain> what is Fixnum#gigabytes?
<drbrain> oh, an activesupport thing
<jaimef> some sort of activesupport converter to fixnum * (1024 * 1024)
<drbrain> 5 / 1E9
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<drbrain> or even (5 / 1E9).floor
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