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<apeiros_> one of the reasons I'd only use something like dropbox as an off-site copy at max (or sharing place)
<tdy> i do entrust dropbox with too much :/
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<apeiros_> unless you have an SLA with a hefty pay being due in case of data loss, your data is *not* safe in place X. and you don't get that for <pocketmoney>$
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<blazes816> this entire 'debacle' has been driving me crazy. dropbox has never been intended to used as a secure backup solution.
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<drbrain> tarsnap is probably a better way to do secure backup
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<erikh> the grandaddy has not been mentioned yet
<erikh> I has a sad
<erikh> it starts with 'r' and ends with 'sync'
<apeiros_> drbrain: safe at your bank with a nice big hard drive :-)
* apeiros_ still actually intends to do that, once he has really important data without off-site backup
<drbrain> apeiros_: other than the convenience factor, it's not a bad plan
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<jammi> what's the current status of ruby rpc's?
<jammi> drb, ernie, which others are still kicking around?
<jammi> seems like there are a lot of them that got started, but fallen out of maintenance
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<zenspider> andrewvos apeiros_ blazes816 --- I really like rsync.net. They even have an open source discount. Stupid simple backup via rsync
<steveklabnik> if i used such a service
<steveklabnik> i'd use tarsnap
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<zenspider> steveklabnik: I haven't used that one yet. I like that rsync.net is just a unix box with a lot of disk. I did like the bug bounty that tarsnap did a while back. that was awesome
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<rue> jammi: RPC fallen out of maintenance is kinda redundant
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<erikh> I used rsync.net for a while
<erikh> not bad for a small amount of data, but they just don't have enough bandwidth for big jobs
<erikh> (we were evaluating it for log archival, ~350GB/mo)
<erikh> err, to quantify "big"
<jammi> just distributed event delegation would be fine, there are db's that handle large amounts of data well
<erikh> rabbitmq?
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<jammi> looks suitable at the first glance, I'll look into it
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<Paradox> jammi, if you need a database that can deal with large amounts of data quickly and you dont mind shuttling it to something else, redis
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<jammi> Paradox: I've been using mongodb for a long time already, which is fine
<Paradox> mongo is nice
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<jammi> yes, it does its job and works properly. however, it's got a fair share of user errors blaming the product instead of themselves
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<intinig> hello all. I am doing some fiddling with ruby and ssh-keys. Given a certain key file what is the easiest way to strip comments and stuff and just get the bare ssh key? I tried with split, but it doesn't work
<intinig> I mean I can't make it work
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<shevy> test
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<andrewvos> Dropbox is so useful though
<andrewvos> And I want it to be a backup service
<andrewvos> I've enabled that packrat feature.
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<injekt> does anyone know of any dictionary apis available on OSX? (I don't really want to install aspell)
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<steveklabnik> zenspider: tarsnap has a Really Fucking Smart Dude behind it.
<steveklabnik> zenspider: he's the openbsd security head? iir? something like that
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<steveklabnik> zenspider: he also does things like this: http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2012-07-04-tarsnap-outage.html which are kinda awesome
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<kvs> steveklabnik: he used to be the security officer for FreeBSD, but resigned due to time restraints
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<steveklabnik> right
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<mark06> how to get standard and daylight saving time abbreviations for a given location in tzinfo?
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<telagraphic_> can you set the initialize variable depending if it provided as an argument... if not provided it will default to 0 or if provided if will be the argument given https://gist.github.com/3965616
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<drbrain> injekt: hunspell is built-in to OS X
<drbrain> injekt: unfortunately, I haven't been able to determine where its dictionaries live
<erikh> that's because OS X has spotlight, which is like the gimpy stepchild of locate
<erikh> my snark is bleeding out from all ends today
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<apeiros_> don't blead to death, erikh
<erikh> apeiros_: heh
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<drbrain> erikh: I think OS X uses a different dictionary format
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<tdy> wow, 5 users in #sciruby :/
<tsou> did that increase their number? :P
<tdy> hah no
<tsou> hehe ok; was curious :)
<tdy> i guess the way to get help with the package is on the github issue tracker
<tdy> doesn't seem to have a big user base (yet?)
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<tsou> tdy: is that ruby's attempt for something Sage-like?
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<tdy> tsou: i think that's the long-term goal
<tdy> seems to be in its infancy
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<tsou> tdy: given the fact that the majority of Sage's users are not pythonists, that's a weird goal :P
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<volty> i would not be so pessimistic, in a year or so? :)