<KINGSABRI>
I need to get the copied data from the textEdit slot
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<chekcmate>
hi hi hi
* chekcmate
wondered why over 5000 police men arrived here yesterday
<chekcmate>
then I read about nazis marching every 13th febr
<chekcmate>
I'll go throw snowballs at them hihahaha
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<yorickpeterse>
and get your shit kicked in
<chekcmate>
why? I usually fuck around with about 5 people, throw the meanest word I can think of and start punching their faces in... it's not that unusual...
<chekcmate>
they eventually start attacking me with all they have, making me kiss the floor, but hey... I had my fun
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<chekcmate>
+ it's no lose if some nazis lose teeths :)
<chekcmate>
*loss?
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<chekcmate>
yorickpeterse: are you supporting nazis?
<yorickpeterse>
No?
<yorickpeterse>
What the fuck makes you think that?
<soahccc>
Hmmm what is the reason for the #succ method? I can imagine a use case for strings but for fixnum? It would be useful if there would be a #succ! too and/or a way to decrease... What is the purpose?
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<banisterfiend>
soahccc: #succ is a general interface required for use in a Range type
<workmad3>
soahccc: well, succ! just couldn't work in ruby without introducing a non-value-type that wraps around a Fixnum
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<Gue______>
hey!
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<Qwak>
hola
<soahccc>
Hmm then I have to stick with += 1 ;(
<injekt>
what's wrong with += 1 ?
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<Qwak>
injekt dunno :-)
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<zenspider>
succ! ? is it wednesday already?
<injekt>
no you just changed it to thursday
<soahccc>
injekt: It's not wrong but I always missed the in/decrementor operator in ruby... I thought I could use the even good named #succ method but I would have to use a string then :)
<zenspider>
soahccc: or... you could use a range and stop doing things yourself
<zenspider>
or upto or or or
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<soahccc>
yeah I usually tend to abstract incrementing values into my handlers directly... At some point you still need a solution but it isn't in my "normal" controlling code
<zenspider>
ok. sweet. my hashing bug was on ruby 1.8's hashing algorithm. ignoring that and I think this thing is ready to go
<zenspider>
_abstract_ incrementing values?
<judofyr>
zenspider: what thing is ready to go?
<zenspider>
judofyr: I'm adding persistence to flay with a stable hash algorithm
<zenspider>
that'll make it possible to serialize flay results over time. compare across projects. detect cross-gem plagerism or good opportunities for gemification
<banisterfiend>
zenspider: are you getting a cut of the profits from codeclimate?
<zenspider>
banisterfiend: heh. no
<zenspider>
didn't even comp me an account! :P
<banisterfiend>
wow, im sure he would if u pinged him though, but that's a bit undignified :))
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<zenspider>
I can flog and flay my own code
<zenspider>
and do, as part of my low-tech CI
<ezkl>
zenspider: Yeah, but what about receiving an email update saying that your code sucks 4 hours after the fact ...
<zenspider>
ezkl: I already know what code of mine sucks
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<zenspider>
oddly... it's all the code that codeclimate uses to tell you that your code sucks :)
<zenspider>
judofyr: now I need a "proper" persistence layer. I'm currently just hacking it out with Marshal
<zenspider>
I was hoping to do this in maglev, but I don't think it is ready for it yet
<injekt>
mine is kinda the same, terminal, browser, and subl
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<ggreer>
I use textmate 1.5 most of the time. sublime text is for pair programming
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<rking>
ggreer: How does Sublime help pairing?
<ggreer>
you might be able to tell from the screenshot. my friend and I wrote a plugin for remote pair programming
<ggreer>
whatever I type in sublime shows up in his sublime, and vice-versa
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<ggreer>
sublime text has a rather nice plugin system, unlike TM1.5
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<ggreer>
the current plugin isn't easy to set up, but we're working on improving it
<rking>
ggreer: Are you doing it as an open thing?
<yorickpeterse>
open sores
<injekt>
I need a set like object which doesn't contain duplicates but instead of discarding them it should overwrite them, do you think inheriting from set and doing def add(o); delete(o) if include?(o); super; end; is the best approach?
<ggreer>
the plugin is open source, but the server isn't. if my business goes belly-up I promise to open source that too :)
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<ggreer>
I was surprised at the amount of code I had to write. even though I used a diff-match-patch library, true operational transformation is hard
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<rking>
Yeah.
<rking>
I'd be continuously tempted to use a different layer for it, like sshfs/nfs, vnc, tmux, etc.
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<ggreer>
yeah it's tough. as soon as you have editor-sharing you want terminal sharing
<rking>
Exactly.
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<rking>
Then browser-sharing's next.
<ggreer>
and then maybe sharing of browser pages... and at that point..
<ggreer>
yeah
<rking>
Actually, I wonder if there's a browser plugin like what you did.
<ggreer>
but the tricky part is that people use different editors and different terminals and different browsers
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<rking>
Because it's something missing from my tmux-pairing world.
<ggreer>
I looked around and I couldn't find any for chrome. I thought about toying with that but decided against it for now
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<rking>
I haven't decided how much I want to force people to know vim.
<ggreer>
terminal sharing is a must though. it's really annoying to read backtraces or paste them into a scratch buffer
<rking>
ggreer: Just add tmux to the mix.
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<rking>
ggreer: adduser whatever; sudo su - whatever then mkdir ~/.ssh; curl -L github.com/theirid.keys > ~/.ssh/authorized_keys; chmod a-rwx -R ~/.ssh
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<ggreer>
yeah... I also want to enforce permissions. maybe some people can read but not write to the terminal
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<rking>
Then after that, make a tmux with chmod 777'd socket
<rking>
That's nazi.
<rking>
Nobody needs that. =)
<ggreer>
heh
<ggreer>
the forkpty syscall looks like my best bet
<rking>
?
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<darix>
for browser stuff you could look into chrome remoting
<ggreer>
it lets you fork a currently-open shell session and read and write to stdin/stdout/stderr
<rking>
I can imagine wanting to get some outside-the-terminal editor to sync, as you did, but I can zero imagine why someone would want to reimplement a terminal sharer when the above sequence is 100% of what it takes to get it working with tmux.
<ggreer>
various tools use it for recording screencasts (codestream, for example)
<ggreer>
well that doesn't work with firewalls. you have to add each person explicitly. it trusts the other people to not harm your computer, etc
<rking>
Right.
<rking>
And you're going to have to do all of that yourself, anyway.
<rking>
But firewalls are super easy. SSH port forward through a public node.
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<judofyr>
injekt: seems like using a Hash would be simpler: a = {}; a[foo] = foo; a[bar] = bar (will update if foo == bar); a.values
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<injekt>
judofyr: the thing is im using my own defined objects and some of the comparison attributes are optional
<injekt>
meaning .hash is pointless I guess
<injekt>
i guess im over thinking this and should just use an array
<judofyr>
injekt: well Set uses .hash too, so, yeah
<injekt>
right
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<chekcmate>
injekt: do you guys also promote vacation homes?
<chekcmate>
or was it only selling objects?
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<arsinh>
Oh, judofyr spoiled it while I was getting the link. I was trying to be more subtle :P
<yianna>
how is someone suppose to find that info on their own though? its not like i can search the api by definition
<injekt>
"99 to 1 in ruby"
<yianna>
thank you guys =)
<arsinh>
yianna: At this point in the book, I think they expected you to use `while(i > 0) { ...; i -= 1 }`
<arsinh>
Well, number_of_bottles would probably be better than i.
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<yianna>
hmmm guess i'll just look at the answer, been toiling around in this chapter for too long
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<TTilus>
damn if they offer while as a solution
<TTilus>
Yianna: what was it?
<injekt>
what's wrong with that?
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<TTilus>
nothing per se, 99.downto(1) { … } just reads way better, matter of taste
<zzak>
good morning!
<TTilus>
good evening
<injekt>
TTilus: sure, that book is for teaching people programming (via ruby) though
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<TTilus>
injekt: guess it depends on whether while was the point in itself or just freestyle nownwards enumeration
<injekt>
TTilus: I disagree, I think they should use downto if it was teaching ruby specifically, but the point is to teach programming constructs via ruby, so while is a perfect fit
<injekt>
zzak: hey! how did it go?
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<TTilus>
injekt: that was my point exactly, whil-structure/pattern was the subject
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<injekt>
ah ok
<TTilus>
"this youll see alot"
<arsinh>
TTilus: Of course downto reads better. But we can't go around teaching people the entirety of the ruby api before they even understand what a loop is.
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<zzak>
injekt: i suck :(
<injekt>
zzak: uh oh, why?
<zzak>
just not a good public speaker
<injekt>
well me too, but do you suck because you think you suck or do you suck because you actually sucked
<zzak>
but jim was awesome to see
<injekt>
weirich? or however the heck you spell that
<zzak>
i just dont have enough practice, that was my 3rd time talking
<injekt>
sure, practice makes perfect
<zzak>
yeh, from rake
<injekt>
cool
<zzak>
he was super nice
<injekt>
yeah i hear that a lot
<zzak>
they have both our talks on youtube
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<heftig>
yorickpeterse: you can combine all those matches into one
<yorickpeterse>
oh?
<heftig>
look at what i did
<yorickpeterse>
oh neat
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<heftig>
i use append for rgba because it allows the app to override it (so the "rgb" is just a default)
<heftig>
useful because i rotate my monitor sometimes
<heftig>
(so it becomes vbgr)
<yorickpeterse>
The annoying thing is that with slight hinting stuff looks fine in, say, Chromium, but blurry in my terminal and (g)vim
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<yorickpeterse>
probably due to the size differences
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<heftig>
anyway, dinner time, bbl
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<yorickpeterse>
Hmmm, I think I can live with Monaco 9
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<yorickpeterse>
Sizes under 10 for that font don't get anti aliased which makes it much easier to read
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<crankharder>
looking for a way to have a ruby script output some info/status message and then return a variable to the parent bash script, but it seems that all puts statements end up in the bash variable i'm setting:
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<owen1>
i try to kill my ruby app with kill <pid> but it's still alive! that's how i run it: ruby /home/t/rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290@lwes-search-map/bin/rackup config.ru -p 3000
<owen1>
(it got the same process id)
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<tylersmith>
owen1: did you kill -9?
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<owen1>
tylersmith: -9 works, but i would like to be able without it
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<owen1>
TTilus: here is what i got from investigating this issue: kill -9 the process that forked ruby doesn't kill the ruby process - http://pastebin.ca/2313587
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<owen1>
kill -9 28247 only kills himself insteaf of 28248! WTF
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<NemesisD>
why are pictures of a cow and a panda on the bundler site?
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<injekt>
because pandas are awesome and emocow > you
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