#ruby-lang on 2014-03-29 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2014-02-24 17:12 apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: RIP Jim || Ruby 2.1.1; 2.0.0-p451; 1.9.3-p545: http://ruby-lang.org || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com

00:01 <Volrath> Hello, anyone here? I would like to ask for some assistance with Ruby installation. Would anyone mind some help? Im a totall newbie

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00:02 <centrx> Volrath, Go right ahead.

00:02 <Volrath> I installed RVM on Ubuntu and installed Ruby itself but when i try 'ruby -v' its like Im not having it installed

00:02 <Volrath> Ill just add that previously with some experiments I just deleted every folder with Ruby name in system cause couldnt delete some older installation but I guess that only got the problem worse

00:02 <centrx> Volrath, You need to do "rvm use xxx" in order to use the particular version in the RVM

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00:03 <Volrath> I did that

00:03 <Volrath> but problem still occurs

00:03 <centrx> rvm list ?

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00:04 <Volrath> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9845566#file-gistfile1-txt

00:05 <Volrath> volrath@Volrath:~$ ruby -v The program 'ruby' can be found in the following packages: * ruby1.8 * ruby1.9.1 Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>

00:05 <Volrath> and thats what i get when i ruby -v

00:07 <centrx> Are you using the Ubuntu version of rvm?

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00:07 <Volrath> ? Sry Im rly a newbie, You ask about the rvm version or...?

00:07 <Volrath> if yes then: volrath@Volrath:~$ ruby -v The program 'ruby' can be found in the following packages: * ruby1.8 * ruby1.9.1 Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>

00:08 <Volrath> damn sry

00:08 <Volrath> Rvm version - rvm 1.25.22 (stable)

00:08 <centrx> I am thinking that rvm might not be setting up the ruby binary/alias/link properly

00:08 <centrx> Also, when you do rvm use, it is in the very same terminal that the ruby -v doesn't show the right version?

00:08 <centrx> Can you paste your rvm use and ruby -v sequence

00:09 <Volrath> yes same terminal

00:09 <Volrath> volrath@Volrath:~$ rvm use RVM is not a function, selecting rubies with 'rvm use ...' will not work.

00:10 <Volrath> volrath@Volrath:~$ ruby -v The program 'ruby' can be found in the following packages: * ruby1.8 * ruby1.9.1 Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>

00:10 <badeball> from my experience, running `which runy` will very quickly tell you if your ruby manager is doing its job.

00:10 <badeball> ehm, I mean `which ruby`.

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00:11 <Volrath> which ruby gives nothing

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00:11 <badeball> Volrath: are you using Debian?

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00:11 <Volrath> Ubuntu

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00:13 <badeball> my experience with RVM & Ubuntu tells me that RVM creates a file called ~/.bash_profile with some RVM thing. is that correct in your case?

00:14 <Volrath> its in my home directory

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00:15 <badeball> alright, and what does it contain?

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00:15 <Volrath> [[ -s "$HOME/.profile" ]] && source "$HOME/.profile" # Load the default .profile [[ -s "$HOME/.rvm/scripts/rvm" ]] && source "$HOME/.rvm/scripts/rvm" # Load RVM into a shell session *as a function*

00:15 <badeball> Volrath: I assume that is *all* that it contains?

00:15 <Volrath> yes

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00:16 <badeball> then that code is never actually run. remove that file and place that code in .bashrc and see if that solves your problem.

00:16 <Volrath> sure, 1 sec pls

00:17 <badeball> in order to see if your problem is actually solved, your probably need to open a fresh terminal and see if `which ruby` returns something sensible.

00:17 <Volrath> uhm, now my terminal doesnt seem to start properrly

00:18 <badeball> Volrath: explain to us in more detail what is happening

00:18 <Volrath> I have no "volrath@Volrath:~$" <- this in my terminal

00:19 <badeball> Volrath: can you post the content of your ~/.bashrc?

00:19 <badeball> Volrath: are you still able to use your terminal?

00:19 <Volrath> nope

00:19 <Volrath> im not

00:19 <Volrath> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9845746#file-gistfile1-txt

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00:20 <badeball> what is the exact output you are receiving?

00:20 <badeball> when opening a new terminal, that it.

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00:20 <Volrath> in terminal? totally nothing except blinking rectangle

00:20 <badeball> can you not type any commands?

00:21 <Volrath> i can type but nothing happens

00:21 <badeball> that is strangely wierd. in which terminal were you able to edit your ~/.bashrc? can you use that terminal to revert the changes?

00:22 <Volrath> i used one of text editors, yeah ill revert it

00:23 <Volrath> Now it works again

00:23 <Volrath> after reverting

00:24 <badeball> Volrath: I'm sorry, it was my fault. I assumed that editing it would solve your problem, but obviously it didnn't. if you havn't noticed already, all RVM wants to do each time you open a terminal is `source "$HOME/.rvm/scripts/rvm"`.

00:25 <badeball> Volrath: what do you get if you run that in a terminal?

00:26 <Volrath> nothing

00:26 <badeball> Volrath: what does `which ruby` say in *that* terminal?

00:27 <badeball> Volrath: what does `env | grep GEM` say in *that* terminal?

00:27 <Volrath> volrath@Volrath:~$ which ruby /home/volrath/.rvm/rubies/ruby-2.1.1/bin/ruby

00:27 <Volrath> lol wait

00:27 <Volrath> somehow ruby -v just worked

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00:28 <Volrath> volrath@Volrath:~$ ruby -v ruby 2.1.1p76 (2014-02-24 revision 45161) [x86_64-linux]

00:28 <Volrath> So strange

00:28 <badeball> I would immediately like to take this oppertunity to say that RVM might not be such a good thing as some people might thing

00:29 <Volrath> :D

00:29 <badeball> :)))

00:29 <centrx> http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/koans.html#id3141171

00:29 <Volrath> Well I tryed many approaches ending with my face on unpassable brick wall

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00:29 <Volrath> Btw thank You for assistance :)

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00:31 <badeball> centrx: are you saying I am not a knight?!

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00:32 <centrx> You are Tom Knight

00:33 <badeball> I'm just gonna take that as a Knight without doing any further research

00:34 <badeball> Volrath: Unfortunately, I'm not so sure if your problem is actually solved, but I guess you

00:35 <badeball> * you are just going to come back if it persists.

00:35 <Volrath> Well, I guess that "$HOME/.rvm/scripts/rvm" <- that helped, Im not moving from here, Ill probably have lots of questions ;) Ofc if I wont be able to handle them alone

00:36 <Volrath> Anyway thank You again :)

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00:36 <badeball> Volrath: any time

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00:46 <mcantor> Why do consecutive calls to Kernel##binding() return different instances of the Binding class?

00:50 <wallerdev> it creates a new binding everytime you call it?

00:50 <wallerdev> you can see at http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-2.1.1/Kernel.html#method-i-binding

00:50 <wallerdev> if you turn on the source

00:50 <wallerdev> return rb_binding_new();

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00:53 <mcantor> wallerdev: is there a way to get THE binding actually in use by a context? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17842765/how-do-i-dynamically-create-a-local-variable-in-ruby

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00:56 <wallerdev> not sure really

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00:56 <wallerdev> is there a specific reason?

00:56 <wallerdev> you can always store the result of binding in a variable

00:57 <mcantor> wallerdev: I'm teaching programming, and I'm experimenting with different ways of introducing the basics

00:57 <mcantor> wallerdev: I'm thinking about introducing all syntax as method calls, since that's how operators and whatnot are implemented

00:57 <mcantor> wallerdev: but I dunno if it's worth it if I can't set them up to use method calls to define local variables

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00:58 <mcantor> Hmm... interesting https://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/155673

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01:03 <wallerdev> haha yeah

01:03 <wallerdev> doesnt look promising

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01:06 <mcantor> wallerdev: it's weird that the irb trick worked though

01:06 <wallerdev> irb is magic

01:06 <wallerdev> :p

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01:21 <mcantor> why does 5.times(&Proc.new{ puts "hey" }) work, but 5.times(&lambda{ puts "hey" }) results in an ArgumentError?

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01:26 <badeball> mcantor: lamdbas check the number of arguments passed, in comparison to Procs

01:26 <badeball> #times will pass an indice argument, which yout lambda does not accept

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01:28 <mcantor> badeball: Ahhhh. Thank you. I forgot that #times passes an argument

01:29 <mcantor> badeball: I thought the error was coming from #times interpreting the lambda as a non-block argument for some reason.

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02:15 <Volrath> Hey guys, I've got a fast question, trying to use 'rake' but im getting "rake aborted" "undefined method 'resources'. I guess I do not have some gem right? Can anyone tell me what command to use with RVM?

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02:23 <Volrath> any1?

02:24 <fowl> try #ruby there are like 800 in there

02:24 <fowl> this chan can be slow

02:24 <fowl> but be warned, they are newbs

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02:27 <centrx> fowl, :P

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03:48 <boombadaroomba> Best Ruby book for learning that you would vouch for?

03:52 <centrx> The Pick-axe is the standard.

03:52 <centrx> boombadaroomba, http://pragprog.com/book/ruby4/programming-ruby

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03:53 <centrx> boombadaroomba, A very old version of it is available online at http://ruby-doc.com/docs/ProgrammingRuby/

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03:57 <boombadaroomba> Looks like Im on the right path. I did that book and eloquent ruby.

03:58 <boombadaroomba> centrx, what about for rails? I have skimmed the ruby way and the rails way. Currently on agile web dev using rails 4. I'm just looking for as many projects to do for references

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03:58 <boombadaroomba> centrx: i also did the m hartl book, which i'll revisit now that I know ruby a lot better.

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04:00 <centrx> boombadaroomba, You should figure out a project you can make

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04:01 <boombadaroomba> centrx, thats my plans for sunday.

04:01 <boombadaroomba> centrx. i have been browsing github looking for anything to work on

04:01 <centrx> Make something for your self

04:01 <boombadaroomba> also, i have never deployed a site.

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04:03 <boombadaroomba> I was told that most the good ideas happen on the porcelain throne

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14:12 <Deuns> I'd like to test a value and have a conditionnal print statement like this : print "IsMAC : ", (fld.include? ":" ? "MAC" : "NOMAC"). Unfortunately it returns "IsMAC: false". What is the right way to do it please ?

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