04:20 <mnutt_> asheesh: I added a few extra thoughts to the vagrant-spk known issues doc

04:20 <mnutt_> (not sure if you get notifications on that, and thought the process may have already finished up)

07:05 <asheesh> mnutt_ you're away for now but I just wanted to say thanks as always for your thoughtful input!

15:47 <dwrensha> I'm getting Cloudflare 504's on oasis.sandstorm.io

17:17 <mrdomino> asheesh: i'm gonna be working with a developer to spike a friend-funded travel app. it is the at-scale version of this tilt: https://www.tilt.com/tilts/covering-toorcamp-costs he wants to do it open-source, so i've suggested doing it as a sandstorm app. my experience with rails on sandstorm is that it's kind annoying... is there another stack that's significantly better to use and doesn't have too much

17:17 <mrdomino> of a learning curve to it?

17:18 <mrdomino> p.s. no that was not intentionally a way to say "please give me money" but i will probably say that at some point in a more appropriate medium x_x

17:19 <mrdomino> also i guess most concretely is there a page, blog post(s), etc recommending best practices for building a sandstorm app from scratch rather than porting an existing one?