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<azonenberg> rqou: still waiting for an update on your pull request with those fixes i mentioned
<rqou> oh herp derp i found something else to distract myself with :P
<rqou> also i'll be unavailable this weekend
<azonenberg> well it'd be nice if you finish that, if not i'll merge it and fix myself when i get a chance
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<openfpga-github> [openfpga] azonenberg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vHnOf
<openfpga-github> openfpga/master d6c9372 Andrew Zonenberg: Formatting tweaks
<azonenberg> Welp, off to go assemble the starshipraider prototype
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<ZipCPU> azonenberg: Enjoy! Let us know how it goes!
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<azonenberg> ZipCPU: ^
<rqou> meanwhile my experiment isn't working at all
<azonenberg> rqou: well at this point all i know is it doesn't smoke when plugged in
<azonenberg> :p
<azonenberg> the power rails are all at nominal voltages
<azonenberg> no further testing
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<davidc___> azonenberg: nice board. FPGA with GIGE and a bunch of diff pairs?
<davidc___> and DDR?
<davidc___> Did you reflow yourself or get it assembled?
<davidc___> Also, is it in Altium/Can I steal the design?
<davidc___> (I need to layout something damn similar soon for a project I'm working on)
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<azonenberg> davidc___: It's gig-e plus hyperram
<azonenberg> it's DDR but not jedec ddr ballout
<azonenberg> 8 pin muxed addr+data bus, 333 MT/s LVCMOS18
<azonenberg> internal refresh
<azonenberg> And kinda small, 64 Mb (256 Mb / 32 MB total for 4)
<azonenberg> but i didnt need a ton of capacity for this design
<azonenberg> Four of them is the equivalent bandwidth of a DDR3 667 x16 chip
<azonenberg> The final version of this design is going to be four DDR3 x16 (or eight x8, TBD) and four of the samtec headers on the right instead of one
<azonenberg> then 1g and 10g ethernet
<azonenberg> This was hand assembled, even the 0201 terminators on the diff pairs
<azonenberg> and reflowed in my garage toaster oven
<azonenberg> The full version will also use a (most likely) 676 ball FPGA
<azonenberg> oh, the other nice thing about hyperram is that it's 1mm pitch instead of 0.8mm
<azonenberg> So super easy to lay out on a batch fab with large design rules
<azonenberg> davidc___: it's kicad, also
<azonenberg> on my github (starshipraider)
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<davidc___> azonenberg: neato
<azonenberg> I verified the board is alive and i can run a blinky on the fpga
<azonenberg> but next step is to table the hardware for a bit, i have a lot of old infrastructure IP that i wrote when i was first getting into FPGAs
<azonenberg> it needs anywhere from slight polishing to a full rewrite depending on the core
<azonenberg> I also have to design the io modules that mate with it still :p
<davidc___> azonenberg: if we're doing project photos, http://208.111.35.216/_bqrl_share/yaxis.jpg (part of my RECON talk)
<davidc___> azonenberg: homemade linear stage with <0.0001" precision
<azonenberg> niiice
<azonenberg> whats the purpose?
<azonenberg> i assume your talk isnt on stage design
<davidc___> azonenberg: for my cross-sectioning-pcbs-for-netlist-discovery
<azonenberg> oooh
<azonenberg> wait cross sectioning?
<azonenberg> like full on tomography
<davidc___> azonenberg: yup
<azonenberg> and imaging end-on?
<azonenberg> innnteresting
<davidc___> azonenberg: yup
<azonenberg> i want it :p
<azonenberg> sounds far superior to trying to do a super even planar delayer
<davidc___> azonenberg: like surface grinding in terms of process, but with 1 less axis of control, and less precision required
<davidc___> azonenberg: yup
<davidc___> azonenberg: hence why I'm doin a talk on it
<azonenberg> yeah you're doing the same volumetric dataset
<azonenberg> just transposing the matrix
<davidc___> azonenberg: pretty much
<azonenberg> you have this working?
<davidc___> azonenberg: by hand yes, automated, well, thats a race to the talk day :)
<azonenberg> lol
<azonenberg> i see
<davidc___> azonenberg: I was going to pull the talk (in fact, I did try to pull the talk)
<davidc___> to present when I had the automation working
<davidc___> but they convinced me to still present
<davidc___> so eh,
<azonenberg> Lol
<davidc___> azonenberg: oh, and all of that was made in my shop on a manual lathe and mill
<azonenberg> Awesome
<davidc___> excluding fasteners, and the T5 pulley)
<azonenberg> in other news, idk if you saw the chatter here earlier
<azonenberg> i'm getting back into the coolrunner game
<davidc___> yeah, saw that
<azonenberg> me and rqou figured out 100% of the 2c32a bitstream at this point (including the stuff i didn't have at my last recon talk) and are working on scaling up to bigger devices
<davidc___> niiice
<azonenberg> i'm also going to try to make a unified greenpak/coolrunner bitfile to verilog flow
<davidc___> pretty soon itll be a full CPLD PAR
<davidc___> oh, wait, bitfile to verilog
<davidc___> even cooler
<azonenberg> So
<azonenberg> the greenpak tools are already a full cpld par
<azonenberg> i'm trying to make it a generic par engine
<azonenberg> with greenpak and coolrunner as back ends
<azonenberg> but i'm also trying to go the other way
<azonenberg> a cool PoC would be porting a coolrunner bitfile to a logically equivaletn greenpak design
<azonenberg> or vice versa
<azonenberg> Inferring greenpak hard IP along the way
<azonenberg> i'm going to try and use this as the base of my "hardware IDA" pipe dream
<azonenberg> at this point i have two fairly distinct (one lut and one pla based) architecture well understood
<azonenberg> i could do ice40 as well, thats documented but i would have to spend some time learning my way around it
<azonenberg> So i could have those all supported as input formats
<azonenberg> davidc___: this is on top of me trying to finish the greenpak compiler
<azonenberg> i'm almost done with the slg4662x
<azonenberg> the 46140 is going to need a bit more work but once the 4662x is done it should follow pretty quickly
<azonenberg> i just havent actually done any work on it at all :p
<azonenberg> at that point i'd have full gp4 support
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<davidc___> azonenberg: sweet. I'm gonna have to try all that stuff one of these days
<davidc___> I've been focusing almost solely on the PCB stuff for the last 6mo, so once thats done, I'll be free to play more with FPGAs
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<alibaba__> Hi. I wonder if someone knows a way to directly write the config RAM in an Altera MAX II?
<alibaba__> Maybe any hidden JTAG instructions?
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<rqou> azonenberg: what fab are you using for polyimide PCBs?
<azonenberg> looking at pcbway
<azonenberg> they quoted me like $150 for a large number (50 iirc?) of these probes based on rough specs
<azonenberg> Going to re-quote once gerbers are done
<azonenberg> have to figure out how to teardrop the pads if possible
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<pie_> so cry
<pie_> s/so//
<pie_> (old joke? :/ )
<lain> lol
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<azonenberg> :p