<hramrach>
should print SUNXI SD/MMC: 0 after but it stopped
<Turl>
I saw a couple of patches to enable/power the usbc by default today
<Turl>
our current drivers are hacked to enable it when modprobing though, to save power
<Turl>
on android, when you turn off wifi, the wifi kernel module is unloaded and then the driver powers the usbc off
<Turl>
when you turn it on, it modprobes the driver which turns it on
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<bsdfox_>
can a10 do dual screens with dsub/hdmi?
<hramrach>
I guess nobody tried yet
<bsdfox_>
I've heard a few people mention dual screen support
<hramrach>
may be possible
<bsdfox_>
I'm just wondering if that's what they're discussing
<buZz>
it is
<hramrach>
the signals are separate
<buZz>
but nobody has it working yet
* bsdfox_
wants english datasheet
<buZz>
the driver has two framebuffers
<hramrach>
indeed
<buZz>
and memory allocated by default for 2x 1080p screen with doublebuffering
<hramrach>
you could do HDMI + LVDS too maybe
<bsdfox_>
:)
<hramrach>
that's what the android tablets probably do
* buZz
wants HDMI + CVBS :P
<bsdfox_>
what's required to change the resolution in linux?
<buZz>
hramrach: android tablets usually just do cloning
<buZz>
so, no dual output
<hramrach>
did not try
<buZz>
bsdfox_: the staging kernel has beta support for changing resolution without rebooting
<hramrach>
maybe some patches on mailing list only so far
<bsdfox_>
buZz, it's hard coded in script.bin right?
<hramrach>
no more
<buZz>
yes
<buZz>
but they are moving to setting it from userspace
<buZz>
as i said, staging kernel :)
<hramrach>
it's read from the attached monitor and failing that the hardcoded value is used
<buZz>
yeah that describes the staging kernel hramrach
<hramrach>
but not sure attaching different monitor would change resolution
<hramrach>
during runtime
<bsdfox_>
oh someone finally implemented EDID?
<hramrach>
yes, it works for me
<hramrach>
but there is no way to change resolution once it's set
<buZz>
> This patchset improves Hans De Goede's EDID patch by allowing user to set new mode at runtime.
<hramrach>
yes, only patches on the list
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<hramrach>
not in the tree
<buZz>
from tekkuli
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<buZz>
its all beta software anyway
<bsdfox_>
do I need to change anything but lcd_x and lcd_y?
<hramrach>
where is lcd_x and lcd_y?
<hramrach>
it's not like anything on Linux is production quality ever, anyway
<bsdfox_>
hramrach, script.fex/bin
<buZz>
exactly ;)
<hramrach>
does that not go in boot.scr?
<bsdfox_>
nm I see screen0_output_mode now
<bsdfox_>
looks like setting screen0_output_mode in script.fex then fex2bin worked
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<bsdfox_>
interesting.. cvlc / cedarx is working with mali enabled and working
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<nemik>
hello, has anyone gone through the process of having google give you license to be supported by the play store? and distribute the play store on a custom device?
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<ZaEarl>
nemik, I tried, but couldn't find anyone at google to even respond to our queries.
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<oliv3r>
i'm kinda hoping that the melee a1000g order falls through though; so I can wiat a little longer for an A20 mele :)
<arete74>
<hramrach>
anybody managed to compile the eccelerated mali X11 driver?
<hramrach>
for me autoconf generates syntactically incorrect configure
<hramrach>
or autoreconf or what does it
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<nemik>
Pulser: yea i know, but i'm hoping to do this for a product that i want to sell. so have to do all this legally to not get in trouble with google
<Pulser>
Does your product pass all the CTS tests etc?
<ZaEarl>
The CTS are quite exhaustive. I can't imagine any product passing all.
<Pulser>
lol true
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<nemik>
Pulser: hah, no i doubt it. thanks though, i just found the link for the CTS and will try it. my 'product' is currently just a prototype on MK802 platform
<Pulser>
nice
<Pulser>
:0
<Pulser>
:) *
<buZz>
nemik: you can do it legal up front, without google appstore
<buZz>
and push gapps.zip to TPB and XDA through the backdoor
<buZz>
;)
<buZz>
i think google is fine with you providing a torrent client with your device :D
<buZz>
wahaha
<nemik>
lol
<buZz>
nmind me ;)
<nemik>
so CTS doesn't require a GSM modem or that kind of functionality, right?
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<hramrach>
mnemoc: there is some problem with *** auto*** macros
<mnemoc>
you might be missing some .m4 files
<mnemoc>
from deps
<hramrach>
yes, probably the X server development files not installed
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<traeak>
the exynos has native usb3 on the soc ?
<traeak>
damn samsung did kick ass on that SOC...missing native ether is it
<xenoxaos>
the exynos5
<xenoxaos>
exynos4 has no native usb
<xenoxaos>
uses a hsic->usb adapter
<traeak>
k
<traeak>
any perf hit on that hsic method?
<hramrach>
hmmm, and exynos5 yeat another type of blobware graphics
<traeak>
what other alternative is there with arm soc ?
<traeak>
who doesn't require a blob for gpu access?
<xenoxaos>
well...the only exynos4 i have is the odroid-x and everything runs over the usb bus....so i/o is slow anyway
<traeak>
funny another ingenic SOC. they switched from vivante to powervr this time around for the gpu. What a bunch of losers
<traeak>
i guess no other option
<hramrach>
heheh, you can run libreoffice on an A10
<hramrach>
just takes forever to launch
<hramrach>
not that it's much different on a PC
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<hramrach>
it just takes forever on anything
<hramrach>
but faster storage would help a bit Iguess
<traeak>
sata drive helps a lot with that stuff
<traeak>
but libreoffice isn't fast by anyone's measure
<traeak>
i much prefer abiword for any editng I do although it's not the best for compatibility stuff
<traeak>
everyone should be using MS sharepoint anyways (hehe)
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<dw>
ahoy. anyone know compatibility for the built-in 2.4ghz wireless keyboard/mouse controllers on the various allwinner android usb sticks? i see many ship with an air mouse of various brands. anyone know the key to ensuring compatibility?
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<mnemoc>
dw: those normally fake an standard usb keyboard
<dw>
i've seen various sticks that appear to indicate built-in 2.4ghz support. is that just referring to the stick bundling drivers for the controller that i must then plug into the usb? :)
<mnemoc>
you only need normal usb keyboard support, like when plugging a wired one
<mnemoc>
the dongle does the magic, not the os
<mnemoc>
at least the 3 I have here work that way
<andoma>
same with mine
<dw>
thanks both :)
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<nemik>
mnemoc: speaking of those, do you know any sources selling the other end of those? i mean kits/hips to emulate the keyboard-side? i wonder what format all those 2.4ghz dongles use
<mnemoc>
nemik: don't know, I've always seen the "pairs" sold together
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<nemik>
mnemoc: yea same here. i doubt anyone would really cater to custom ones unfortunately
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<nemik>
can anyone help me with some questions i have about the MK802? specifically, i'd like to build my own Android version for it but with some other linux kernel drivers such as bluetooth USB HCI.
<nemik>
so however that is done (i assume i can use the sunxi-3.0 branch from github) would it still include the HW GPU accelaration drivers like the cedarx stuff?
<mnemoc>
yes
<mnemoc>
but use sun4i_crane_defconfig for android
<nemik>
mnemoc: wow excellent. thank you very much.
<nemik>
mnemoc: do you how to then enable to the Bluetooth menu in Android System tools wireless portion? would it automatically show up if prober BT device was plugged in or is it something that is configured when building Android?
<nemik>
*proper
<RaYmAn>
you need stuff setup for your specific module
<nemik>
RaYmAn: yea, i'm planning to compile the USB HCI modules and try to push them with adb and insmod them. but i'm just wondering if any other steps are then needed in android or if it BT functionality would just show up in my current stock image
<mnemoc>
sunxi-3.0 has 3.0.57, you can't just inject modules over the stock gpl-violatig 3.0.8
<RaYmAn>
nemik: no, you need android setup to talk to your specific module.
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<nemik>
RaYmAn: thanks, do you know where this setup is located?
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<nemik>
mnemoc: ah ok, so to try that i'd need to use the stock branch. i wonder if it's even worth the effort or maybe i should just try to build the entire android image
<RaYmAn>
nemik: it depends on android version, but generally in the init.<device>.rc as well as a few variables in BoardConfig.mk
<mnemoc>
nemik: I would go for building the entire android + fresh kernel
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<mnemoc>
nemik: we have a 3.0.8 stock-ish branch, but it's not really maintained and doesn't receive improvements (to remain fully bin compatible)
<nemik>
mnemoc: thank you i guess i'll do that. i can just do that with the 'make android' from sunxi-bsp, right? and it should work as well as the stock one?
<nemik>
not sure what the stock qware might add that i'd have to do myself
<nemik>
RaYmAn: thank you, only variable I see in BoardConfig.mk is the "BOARD_HAVE_BLUETOOTH := true" so meat of it must be in init i guess
<RaYmAn>
nemik: yeah, it kind of varies between setups
<mnemoc>
nemik: almost, iirc sunxi-bsp doesn't have code to generate the template for the board specific "device tree" yet
<nemik>
mnemoc: is there any one tutorial to do all this? i'm not really sure where to start
<nemik>
i guess first i'd like to do it on an SD card to try it out but later it would be nice to build a LiveSuite image so i could flash it to internal
<mnemoc>
not sure if we can boot android from uSD yet
<nemik>
that's fine, so how would i go about creating a livesuite image then?
<mnemoc>
yes
<mnemoc>
it will do it for you
<mnemoc>
iirc
<mnemoc>
never used that part myself
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<nemik>
cool, well i'll try it out with the bsp first then and just hope that it works. if anything i can always revert back to stock i suppose.
<nemik>
thank you!
<nemik>
sorry, one more questions. bsp has two boards, "* mk802 mk802-android" and "* mk802ii mk802ii-android". what is the difference? is the ii configured then to use 1GB of RAM and 512MB for the original?
<mnemoc>
mk802ii and mk802 are different devices
<nemik>
hmm ok, i think i might have the ii part, but it's hard to tell
<andoma>
there's also an mk802+
<mnemoc>
nemik: the mk802ii has 1GB and an extra usb host port
<andoma>
also i the mk802ii have an HDMI male connector so you can plug it directly in the TV/monitor
<andoma>
while the mk802 and mk802+ does not (they need a cable between)
<nemik>
andoma: extra USB host, so you mean two host ports or just one more besides the OTG? i have a model with just one full-size usb host port
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<mnemoc>
nemik: male or female hdmi?
<andoma>
i've got mk802 and mk802+ devices and both only have one fullsize USB port
<andoma>
mk802+ have 1GB of RAM (while mk802 have 512)
<andoma>
but there might be other permutation i don't know about
<nemik>
mnemoc: male, full-size. but i have another different version with mini-female
<nemik>
but both have full-size USB host ports
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<andoma>
i've orderd some mk802ii though
<mnemoc>
someone should add pictures of those to the sunxi wiki... to help people identify them
<mnemoc>
i don't have any
<mnemoc>
hdmi dongle i mean
<nemik>
mnemoc: sounds good, i'll try to upload some later today
<andoma>
i'll take some pics of the mk802+ then
<mnemoc>
cool
<nemik>
hmm interesting that sunxi-bsp uses cyanogen for android base. does the stock one use that too or AOSP?
<mnemoc>
no, only CM
<nemik>
everyone uses CM for even stock mk802 images? wow, didn't expect that
<nemik>
i thought before when the first sources from qware were posted, it was based off AOSP?
<mnemoc>
no, they use allwinner's android
<mnemoc>
but people here who cares about building android (not me) prefers CM over AOSP
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* WarheadsSE
glares at Turl
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<andoma>
ok added pics of mk802+ on mk802 page on wiki
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<mnemoc>
andoma: thanks!
<mnemoc>
andoma: a redirect page might be a good idea too
<traeak>
WarheadsSE: i notice no new arch a10 kernels for a long time. i guess no real reason to update?
<andoma>
mnemoc: done
<mnemoc>
andoma: thanks^2 :)
<andoma>
np
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<WarheadsSE>
traeak: I haven't been able to focus back on the mele
<WarheadsSE>
need a new recipe for a recent build
<WarheadsSE>
a while ago I went to build a new one, had github problems.
<traeak>
WarheadsSE: np, just curious
<WarheadsSE>
unfortunately, I did't have a lot of time available that day
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<WarheadsSE>
Yup
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<nemik>
uploaded the mk802ii pics. andoma, they're not nearly as good as yours, my camera isn't great
<andoma>
nemik: it's 100% better than nothing though
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<nemik>
word
<mnemoc>
nemik: and the redirect? :p
<mnemoc>
what??? mk802+ has A10s????
<andoma>
yeah
<mnemoc>
o.o
<mnemoc>
andoma: what kernel are you running? can you show me a `dmesg`?
<nemik>
andoma: hah! i knew there was something i forgot; done
<andoma>
im not running any kernel at all .. i kinda gave up on those devices
<mnemoc>
andoma: A10s is sun5i, like the A13
<andoma>
i've not been able to get root in android on them so i can't get hold of any fex file
<andoma>
mnemoc: yeah i've figured
<andoma>
also i can't find any pads to solder a serial port
<nemik>
andoma: really? all mine have had root in adb shell be default
<andoma>
the otg port is dead on those
<andoma>
shows up nothing even if i toggle usb debugging on/off in android .. or install some adb toggle app
<andoma>
on my mk802 vanilla it works just fine
<nemik>
oh strange
<andoma>
indeed
<andoma>
so i gave up and ordered two mk802ii instead
<andoma>
maybe i'll revisit the mk802+ later
<mnemoc>
andoma: been sun5i you need a different u-boot and different kernel build on the uSD
<andoma>
mnemoc: yeah i've figured as much
<mnemoc>
get a usb/ethernet and preconfigure ssh on the card
<andoma>
but without serial port and the fex file it feels like i'm gonna stumble in the dark
<mnemoc>
yes, the fex issue is a problem
<mnemoc>
but there are several adb exploits for android 4.0
<mnemoc>
generic
<andoma>
any a10 device with /dev/cedar seems exploitable since you can map arbitrary physical memory as RW via /dev/cedar to userspace unless i'm missreading the code
<nemik>
ouch, sounds like that samsung galaxy s iii bug people were all excited about a while back
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<hramrach>
they also use cedar on exynos?
<hramrach>
or a bug repeating often in various blobs?
<hramrach>
ssvb: how much is the X11 mali driver supposed to work?
<hramrach>
I tried the test with test with fb libs and that went fine
<hramrach>
then installed the X11 libs, X11 driver, gnome
<mnemoc>
andoma: you don't need platform specific exploits, generic android 4.0 itself has a bunch
<mnemoc>
andoma: exploitable on any device
<Maqs>
mnemoc: there are different versions of mk802+. mine has an a10.
<hramrach>
X log says aiglx cannot find dri module, then GLX says swrast is used, then gnome says no acceleration is available
<hramrach>
alt least I have fast cursor. seems faster than plain fbdev
<Maqs>
mnemoc: my mk802+ case looks the same, but the contents are like the mk802.
<hramrach>
they just put in whatever junk is lying around
<hramrach>
typical for cheap hardware vendor
<hramrach>
so long as the case looks the same and the hardware performs remotely similar function it can be branded teh same
<Maqs>
seems like
<Maqs>
some chip vendors are different. here's no samsung whatever that is, but hynix
<hramrach>
if that's ram or nand that does not really matter so long as the parts are similar
<hramrach>
but replacing the CPU, ew
<Maqs>
nope, same cpu. and one gb of ram. both my mk802 (mini pc for android 4.0) and mk802+ (exactly the case in the wiki, but without a DDR3/1GB sticker on it)
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<Maqs>
and the pcb for my mk802+ is green, not black. i guess they really just take what's lying around..
<mnemoc>
pictures pictures
<Maqs>
i can only show you the back side atm.. i'm afraid to take the pcb out again, the hdmi port is not exactly attached right.