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<Jonathan_Eyre>
Is anyone building Chromium OS on an A10 device?
<ccssnet>
not many devs tend to build things that put there data elsewhere
<ccssnet>
so good luck
<Jonathan_Eyre>
Good point.
<Jonathan_Eyre>
However I was thinking that there is a chromium on arm project, and there was a guy that claimed he got Chromium OS to run on a raspberry pi.
<Jonathan_Eyre>
I thought it was theoretically possible to put it on A10.
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<WarheadsSE>
Theoretically, yes
<WarheadsSE>
Is anyone actively developing it? IDK
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<herdingcat>
what's the meaning of tel in armv5tel ?
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<vinifm>
hi, i used /pio -m PC1<0><1><1><0> and get a token error
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<Turl>
vinifm: what are you trying to do?
<Turl>
power output pin?
<vinifm>
pull up
<Turl>
try
<Turl>
./pio -m PC1?1
<vinifm>
hum, but i wonder if the command that i used is wrong
* Turl
doesn't like the long command
<Turl>
vinifm: you probably need quotes btw, < and > are shell characters with special meaning
<vinifm>
i still not tried '?', i am going try
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<Turl>
mnemoc: your zfs still kicking you out? :/
<Turl>
err, znc
<mnemoc>
:(
<Turl>
mnemoc: did you by any chance suspend/resume a computer?
<mnemoc>
irssi/znc runs on a server
<mnemoc>
but every time I try to use andchat znc starts dying
<Turl>
ahh
<Turl>
mnemoc: I noticed mine dies when I leave pidgin open and do a suspend cycle
<Turl>
it's like when pidgin reconnects it floods the servers with joins I bet
<Turl>
I guess andchat does the same when it loses connection
<mnemoc>
likely
<Turl>
do you have many channels on autojoin?
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<mnemoc>
Turl: 28 :)
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<mnemoc>
i will have to return to connectbot + screen + irssi. znc simply doesn't work
<ohniceidea>
Hi. Is there any resources about hacking Rockchip tablet?
<Turl>
mnemoc: it might be an easy fix
<Turl>
missing throttling somewhere
<Turl>
need to tcpdump it one of these days
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<amoxoo>
Hi guys? what's the differences between Mali driver r2p4 and r3p0?
<amoxoo>
for different kernel?
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<torindel>
amoxoo: check on wiki, drivers might differ what for they support acceleration for (xorg, android, etc)
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<amoxoo>
it seems that the target operation system support is indicated by the VARIANT build info.
<amoxoo>
for example. VARIANT=mali400-r1p1-gles11-gles20-linux-android-ics-rgb_is_xrgb-ump
<amoxoo>
and VARIANT=mali400-gles20-gles11-linux-x11-ump-no_monolithic
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<amoxoo>
but there exists some other build info like: GEOM, HOSTLIB ... etc.
<amoxoo>
what's the differences between HOSTLIB direct and indirect?
<amoxoo>
for direct version , the size seems very small (400KB), and indirect version all most need 7 - 8 MB
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<amoxoo>
and in direct version, binary for libEGL, libGLES are symbol linked to libMali.so
<amoxoo>
that's why I don't know which one to use.
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<amoxoo>
I have run es2gears(170FPS) and glmark2-es2(70FPS) on r3p0 direct version binary, but it only contains limited EGL API, that makes failed to run the test program under Mali-Libs, and of course also the APIs which I want to use.
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<libv>
amoxoo: what is the "direct version binary"
<amoxoo>
see at the HOSTLIB buildinfo part for each item
<libv>
indirect/direct seems to be 1-1 linked with debug or release builds.
<libv>
secondly, chances are that your 7-8MB thing has badly copied symlinks
<libv>
and that what should've been symlinks, turned into full copies
<libv>
now, your complaint is that the egl implementation is incomplete?
<libv>
how does that manifest itself?
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<libv>
...
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<pucko>
there's a new firmware for the MeLE A10's. named Mele_HTPC_20130116_V1.3.1.rar
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* penguin42
fails to see how the rk3066-linux google group works, I'm subscribed enough for it to show me messages, but google-groups say I'm unsubscribed and it can't post by mail - what a mess
<br->
penguin42: check your list of alternative address on your google account
<br->
groups is a joke, i have no idea why people tolerate it
<penguin42>
br-: Yeh, that's the thing it's sending it to my non-google address (which is good) but I don't see how to post anything, it won't take stuff by mail and the web interface to googlegroups only gives me the option to subscribe
<rm>
penguin42, do you send it mail with From: the same as where it sends you mails?
<penguin42>
yes
<penguin42>
it said the group was configured not to accept stuff by mail
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<penguin42>
which I'm kind of ok with as long as there is some way for me to post to it
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<jelly-home>
that explains the lack of a gmane archive of it as well
<mnemoc>
you can subscribe google groups without G account
<mnemoc>
and without using the web frontend
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<penguin42>
mnemoc: Which I seem to have done, but can't see how to post to it
<mnemoc>
for foo@googlegroups.com you subscribe mailing foo+subscribe@googlegroups.com
<penguin42>
mnemoc: It's configured not to allow posting via mail
<mnemoc>
:<
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<mnemoc>
penguin42: mail the retard who configured it that way
<penguin42>
mnemoc: I haven't figured out who that was, but I can understand if they wanted to stop it getting spammed to bits
<mnemoc>
there is a nice setting to moderate all first posts
<mnemoc>
after the first post you can decide if it's a real fellow or an spammer
<penguin42>
nice
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<penguin42>
but there again what's the point - spammers will surely just fake the from address as the address of someone who has posted
<mnemoc>
the cubieboard and the linux-sunxi lists are both open lists hosted by googlegroups
<mnemoc>
and spam is minimal
<mnemoc>
and spammers can post over http too
<penguin42>
nod
<mnemoc>
so the idea that restricting to web only reduces spam is just premature optimization
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<drachensun>
Has any seen this error when using nand "[<c0331978>] (_read_single_page+0x0/0x490) from [<c032fbd8>] (PHY_PageRead+0x120/0x1dc)"
<drachensun>
kernel crash I mean
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<fra79Wii>
Hi all, I'm having problem compiling a working binary of u-boot for my all winner a10 tabler
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<fra79Wii>
I thought it was because I was trying cross compiling on mac, but it doesn't work if I cross sompile in linux….I'm using latest git snapshott, and using the board type a10_mid_1gb.
<fra79Wii>
I flash the sol and he u-boot and nothing happens
<fra79Wii>
spl :P
<techn_>
if you downloaded zip from github.. it wont work becouse symlinks :/
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<fra79Wii>
really? ok so I try to actually checkout from git.. I'm so lazy :P..
<fra79Wii>
thanks.. git it's a little bit slow but it's on going…
<cobalt60-ac100>
WOW an ARM netbook channel!
<cobalt60-ac100>
Any suitable replacement for my AC100 for running Linux?
<mnemoc>
the exynos 5 chromebook
<mnemoc>
easy to get rid of chromeos
<fra79Wii>
the dram.c is the only thing to modify the memory map for the SPL right?
<cobalt60-ac100>
3D working yet?
<cobalt60-ac100>
I think that ChromeBook is ugly as $%^ but I can paint/skin it
<mnemoc>
steev: where is my imx6q efika?! :<
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<cobalt60-ac100>
It took like 2 years for 3D to get going easily on Ubuntu/AC100, and it still has a way to go, but it does indeed work
<cobalt60-ac100>
mnemoc I remember reading the article why they wont release one
<cobalt60-ac100>
very sad... I almost got the EfikaMX until I foubd the AC100 had better specs for the same price
<mnemoc>
both have joke screens :<
<cobalt60-ac100>
at least AC100 has HDMI out, and is capable of 1080p over it
<mnemoc>
I'm hoping to convince someone (living in .cn and fluent in chinese and in sourcing) here on irc to design and crowdsource a generic lapdock <http://linux-sunxi.org/User:Alejandro_Mery/Lapdock>
<cobalt60-ac100>
though via Linux, I think 1280x1024 is all that happens over HDMI
<fra79Wii>
mnemoc: Nohing still the same, can the cross compiler be hardfp?
<mnemoc>
fra79Wii: yes
<mnemoc>
s/crowdsource/crowdfund/
<fra79Wii>
maybe the fs is the problem. I'm compiling in a hfs (OSX) case sensitive file system...
<mnemoc>
fra79Wii: all civilized filesystems are case sensitive
<cobalt60-ac100>
mnemoc thats a beautiful idea and Ive had the same idea
<cobalt60-ac100>
I can design and manufacture PCBs
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<mnemoc>
the components sourcing and device manufactoring are the hardest problem
<mnemoc>
or you'll end up with a $500 lapdock, which is useless
<cobalt60-ac100>
well, if you do the labor yourself and consider $10 to $15 / hr OK...
<mnemoc>
:)
<cobalt60-ac100>
Ive gathered equipment for low volume PCB production
<cobalt60-ac100>
I figure once designed, I ndred a weekcould probably make a couple hu
<cobalt60-ac100>
t*could
<cobalt60-ac100>
GOD DAMN TOUCHPAD
<cobalt60-ac100>
I figure once designed, I could probably make a couple hundred a week
<fra79Wii>
mnemc: yes, but default OSX fs not is case insensitive… really lame
<cobalt60-ac100>
mnemoc I strongly suggest imitting the touchpad in exchange for a touchscreen
<mnemoc>
cobalt60-ac100: not all touchpads are as bad as yours :p
<cobalt60-ac100>
Still...
<cobalt60-ac100>
I say leave touchpads with x86. Obviously losing ground to touchscreens and ARM
<cobalt60-ac100>
But not enough ARM devices are clamshell form factor with keyboard
<cobalt60-ac100>
And top heavy designs like the Transformer do not count...
<cobalt60-ac100>
I was actually considering buying a spare AC100, a Nexus 7, a 1280x800 10" LCD, 10" touchscreen, and combining to make my Linux ARM ideal device
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<mnemoc>
cobalt60-ac100: meaning you would start doing the oshw design for a lapdock board? :)
<cobalt60-ac100>
oshw = open-source hardware? Yea I believe in the cause enough to share my hard work
<mnemoc>
yes, oshw = open source hardware
<cobalt60-ac100>
You use Linux? Ever use GEDA? top notch circuit and PCB design suite
<mnemoc>
i'm just a software ape, but ee people here seems to prefer kitcad
<cobalt60-ac100>
My main problems with getting things accomplished is that I get treated like a slave 40hrs a week (I repair DSLRs and lenses for Canon)
<mnemoc>
just 40?
<mnemoc>
lucky you
<mnemoc>
:)
<cobalt60-ac100>
I dont mind working more, but when my bosses are incompetent career managers... it takes a lot out of me
<mnemoc>
true
<cobalt60-ac100>
well between that and not getting paid very well, I dont get much accomplished with hw design, but I actually am pretty good at it
<mnemoc>
oshw is a good way to release that potential
<cobalt60-ac100>
Im trying to find another job... thats my current priority
<cobalt60-ac100>
well, this lapdock idea is like I said, one Ive already had...
<cobalt60-ac100>
I think its a great idea. As a huge fan of Linux and ARM, its deffinitely a project Id like to be involved in
<cobalt60-ac100>
And being more of a hardware guy, I could never get much done with the actual software other than reporting / reproducing bugs
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<mnemoc>
the arm-netbook community (irc and ml) has plenty software people
<cobalt60-ac100>
exactly and not very many hardware people
<cobalt60-ac100>
what is kitcad I cant find any info
<cobalt60-ac100>
anyway Im pretty happy with GEDA
<cobalt60-ac100>
It can be a little cumbersome but after getting over its learning curve I find it can do everything I need it to
<lawrence>
pretty much all LCD controllers do 1920x1200
<lawrence>
its when you get to > than that then it starts drying up
<cobalt60-ac100>
Supports RGB LED backlight application
<cobalt60-ac100>
!!
<lawrence>
problem is that the panel cost for HD is prohibitive
<lawrence>
so most likely going to be 720p resolution
<mnemoc>
how prohibitive?
<lawrence>
i already said
<lawrence>
you'd go from 150$ -> 400/500$
<lawrence>
as panel cost is high
<mnemoc>
seriously?
<mnemoc>
prices I saw were around 500 yuan....
<mnemoc>
and I'm not a sourcing expert
<lawrence>
please, find me one for that
<cobalt60-ac100>
I see 1366x768 10" for $55US
<lawrence>
i can get 10" 1366x768 for about 200rmb odd
<lawrence>
eg N101BGE-L21
<lawrence>
or similar
<cobalt60-ac100>
thats good
<lawrence>
oooh, 13.3" in HD
<lawrence>
N133HSE-EA1 IPS
<cobalt60-ac100>
how about 1680x1050 as a res...
<jammi>
don't underestimate the bandwidth needs. 1920x1080@60Hz is about 3Gbps. 1920x1200@60Hz is 3.3GHz, 3840x2160@60Hz is 12Gbps, not even thunderbolt is able to provide that much.
<lawrence>
you can't find 4k panels in < 21"
<jammi>
and the same width for 16:10 (3840x2400@60Hz) is 13.2Gbps
<lawrence>
and a 21" 4k panel is like 3-4K USD
<lawrence>
vs a 50" 4k panel is about 1100$
<lawrence>
you're using HDMI as an input, so plenty fine
<jammi>
yeah, and requires probably at least $1k worth of specialized electronics to be driven
<lawrence>
@jammi - about $50
<lawrence>
to drive 4k
<lawrence>
realtek has a chipset for it
<cobalt60-ac100>
lawrence how much for that 13.3"1080p
<lawrence>
how do you think they're able to sell 4k tv's for $1200
<jammi>
lawrence: where do you find a fpga capable of those bandwidths, and which interface were you planning to use?
<jammi>
a limited run of some custom-designed chips would also cost $$$$ per chip
<lawrence>
@jammi - i wasn't, as reinventing the wheel isn't in the plans for me
<jammi>
yeah, but there aren't even interfaces capable of providing enough bandwidth yet
<lawrence>
hdmi 1.4b can do 24fps
<jammi>
nevertheless anything off-the-shelf
<lawrence>
dp can do 60fps
<cobalt60-ac100>
24fps :(
<lawrence>
displayport has the bandwidth
<lawrence>
or dual dvi
<lawrence>
currently its shitty hdmi -> 24fps for 4k tv's
<lawrence>
which sucks
<cobalt60-ac100>
My AC100 is only 50fps and its too slow for my liking
<jammi>
24fps is barely enough for movies
<lawrence>
although i may just say screw it after CNY and buy another panel
<lawrence>
as i can see them dropping to 6-7000rmb for a 4k tv by then
<lawrence>
vs 8500 -10000 rmb now
<mnemoc>
lawrence: I can't even find a 13.3 1080p panel on taobao now :<
<lawrence>
panels are being produced in VOLUME at moment
<lawrence>
its the controllers that cost
<cobalt60-ac100>
I think $35 USD for a 10" 1366x768 is pretty good...
<jammi>
24fps 4k 16:9 is barely 4.8Gbs, which is less than 2560x1440@60Hz
<jammi>
(which is 5.5Gbps)
<lawrence>
don't forget your colors
<lawrence>
or are you doing 1bit on /off :)
<lawrence>
for white/black
<jammi>
24bpp
<lawrence>
i think i take a look what panel cost for N133HSE-EA1 is
<jammi>
which is what the interfaces are specified at
<lawrence>
as thats 13.3" @ HD
<cobalt60-ac100>
I saw $175USD...
<lawrence>
looks like 40-50
<lawrence>
5
<lawrence>
40-50$
<lawrence>
that 5 was a $ (hit the enter key)
<cobalt60-ac100>
thats great!
<lawrence>
seems to be a glut at moment
<lawrence>
*and* its IPS
<jammi>
anyhow, I'd wait for a standard interface to drive 4k @ 60Hz or more. there's none yet and my decade-old 3840x2400 ips has been a pita to drive off four dvi channels
<mnemoc>
we have a winner! :D
<jammi>
which was the only kludge back then, and even then it barely does 40Hz
<lawrence>
its a possibility.
<lawrence>
with LCD panels smaller size / higher resolution costs go up
<lawrence>
so 13.3" may be cheap enough to use, but a 10" maybe not
<lawrence>
but, that does look suitable
<mnemoc>
this N133HSE-EA1 looks awesome
<cobalt60-ac100>
indeed.
<mnemoc>
lawrence: so what's your guesstimation for a 13.3"/1080p lapdock now? :)
<cobalt60-ac100>
I still want a 10" model but for the sake of cooperation Ill roll with the idea of using that panel
<lawrence>
well, 13.3' can still use standard shell
<lawrence>
as factories churn those mothers out like no tomorrow
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<lawrence>
there is a LCD db site somewhere, i forget the url
<lawrence>
anyone know it?
<mnemoc>
let's assume it's RTD2482D + N133HSE-EA1 + standard shell for now
<cobalt60-ac100>
OK now audio?
<lawrence>
that did audio
<mnemoc>
RTD2482D has audio
<mnemoc>
and even an 8051
<mnemoc>
amazing soc
<lawrence>
10" feasible is 1280x800
<cobalt60-ac100>
thats good cost?
<lawrence>
8" 1280 x 768
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<cobalt60-ac100>
soc = SoC?
<lawrence>
just looking at panel pricing
<lawrence>
SoC = system on Chip
<lawrence>
eg the A10 is a SoC
<lawrence>
it integrates a number of things onto one chip
<cobalt60-ac100>
or the Tegra3
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<cobalt60-ac100>
my AC100 is Tegra2
<lawrence>
eg a display controller, usb, etc etc
<cobalt60-ac100>
GPU
<lawrence>
thats etc etc
<lawrence>
*if* there was on that accepted input and could blat > hdmi
<lawrence>
that would be cheaper
<lawrence>
as these SoC's are bloody cheap for what they do
<cobalt60-ac100>
anyway we have all aspects of audio already covered?
<lawrence>
vs say a dedicated LVDS controller chip
<cobalt60-ac100>
or we still need an amp?
<lawrence>
still need an amp
<cobalt60-ac100>
but thats it for audio
<lawrence>
but the processing is in chip
<lawrence>
and speakers
<cobalt60-ac100>
err, would speakers be ON the PCB or separate?
<lawrence>
separate
<lawrence>
speakers are easy
<cobalt60-ac100>
Im personally just trying to design the PCB
<lawrence>
i can go to office and scan some example magazines of mp4 style speaker mounted hardware
<lawrence>
thats ready available and cheap
<mnemoc>
lawrence: you should be sleeping, long ago :p
<lawrence>
i woke up at 3am
<lawrence>
its only 6am now
<cobalt60-ac100>
RTD2482D cost?
<lawrence>
and i just had a red bull
<mnemoc>
:)
<cobalt60-ac100>
5pm here
<cobalt60-ac100>
Monster
<lawrence>
about 7rmb
<lawrence>
7-8rmb (1.20$
<lawrence>
)
<cobalt60-ac100>
Why is it less than the other one ?
<cobalt60-ac100>
if it has additional functionality?
<cobalt60-ac100>
what are model number and prices of the smaller panels?
<lawrence>
we're still at the bouncing ideas around stage
<lawrence>
board design is a 3-4 month process
<lawrence>
as you design, make test, farkup, fix, redo, make, go to factory, make BOM, pcb, they screw up, repeat, fix, ship
<lawrence>
and thats minimum
<lawrence>
more likely 6months
<cobalt60-ac100>
ok
<mnemoc>
but a dumb tabdock/lapdock won't have many components/complexity
<lawrence>
i wish
<mnemoc>
i do :p
<lawrence>
you'll have a panel
<lawrence>
you'll have mounting for panel
<lawrence>
you'll have screws
<lawrence>
you'll have a plastic shell
<mnemoc>
i mean, comparing with a real laptop/tablet/tv
<lawrence>
you'll have an LVDS -> whatever your pcb uses cable
<cobalt60-ac100>
which I guess will always be HDMI
<lawrence>
you'll have inputs on the shell going to pcb for power, hdmi, (unless we can design smart and make pcb mount the external mount
<lawrence>
you'll have speakers + mounting (usually moulded into case if smart)
<lawrence>
you'll have hinge for top/bottom
<mnemoc>
lawrence: can we find good priced 13.3"/1080p and 10"/1280x800 panels with the same lvds connector?
<lawrence>
you'll have keyboard + mounting
<lawrence>
etc
<cobalt60-ac100>
well Im accepting the task of PCB design
<lawrence>
theres a lot more to things than you think there is
<mnemoc>
:)
<lawrence>
connector wise - its all lvds as far as the eye can see mostly
<lawrence>
although might be FFC to panel on some panels
<cobalt60-ac100>
So PCB wise, have we pretty much covered everything?
<mnemoc>
i thought there was no standard lvds *connector*, only signals
<lawrence>
yup
<mnemoc>
:)
<lawrence>
but they're made in such volume, that cables are off the shelf
<lawrence>
so thats not a concern
<lawrence>
you pick panel, choose cable, done
<mnemoc>
cool
<lawrence>
if controller is on bottom, lcd on top then not ffc
<lawrence>
as ffc = broken after mild use
<lawrence>
if bent
<lawrence>
so definitely cable
<lawrence>
still need to pick a controller chip
<mnemoc>
the RTD2482D specs claim an 8051 inside
cobalt60 has joined #arm-netbook
<lawrence>
i suggest look at realtek, 乐华, 鼎科 or similar, as they all do lower end mass product
<jammi>
I think display adapters need to move to the monitor side sooner or later. the bandwidths over the long wire are becoming insane otherwise
<lawrence>
鼎科 might be interesting to talk to as they also do ODM
<jammi>
and it's pretty stupid to transfer the (usually almost) exactly same image over and over again, when a smarter bus between the computer and the monitor would do it in so much less bandwidth
<lawrence>
although QTY is the isuse here
<cobalt60>
Jammi I cant help but be reminded of poor implementations of MPEG
<cobalt60>
When USA switched from to digital OTA broadcasting for example
<cobalt60>
analog to digital
<mnemoc>
lawrence: and in url terms, what is 鼎科 ?
<lawrence>
they make lcd controller chips
<lawrence>
not sure on the english name
<lawrence>
not all companies doing this have english names
<mnemoc>
but they need a url....
<lawrence>
mnemoc - stick N133HSE-EA1 IPS as an option @ 13.3" in the wiki
<lawrence>
its a Chimei panel
<lawrence>
(1920x1080)
<lawrence>
just so i don't forget
<cobalt60>
I have it taken down what do you have for 10"?
<lawrence>
LED / 13.3" / IPS / 1920x1080 and about 400rmb new
<lawrence>
thats my suggested display driver for now
<lawrence>
does HDMI in, drives eDP out
<lawrence>
does USB
<lawrence>
low power usage
<lawrence>
does audio
<lawrence>
has english pdf
<lawrence>
and datasheets
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<mnemoc>
lawrence: seems perfect :)
<lawrence>
so, eDP screen is ok
<lawrence>
driver chip possibly the ANX7808
<lawrence>
we'd need to ask them about cost and example design
<lawrence>
199 times out of 10 they have a board design
<lawrence>
as thats how they sell it
<cobalt60-ac100>
BGA
<lawrence>
and everyone just reuses it in their design marginally changed
<jammi>
if you go with eDP, would it make sense to include a mini-DP connector on the circuit board, so the screen can be reused later, when no-one cares about hdmi and such
<lawrence>
which is why you'll see that the cubieboard et al all are extremely similar layout wise to the reference design from allwinner
<lawrence>
yup
<lawrence>
edp is DP
<lawrence>
so thats a no brainer
<lawrence>
:)
<mnemoc>
:)
<lawrence>
all bonuses really :)
<lawrence>
hdmi has won over dp for hd
<lawrence>
for uhd i hope dp wins
<lawrence>
and it might, as hdmi hasn't released a standard yet
<lawrence>
but dp already has
<lawrence>
and there are chipsets already for uhd (4k etc) in dp
<lawrence>
so, they're slightly ahead at the moment
<lawrence>
that said, one of my clients is silicon image
<cobalt60-ac100>
I say keep the LVDS idea thoug
<lawrence>
and they are heavy into the hdmi standard
<cobalt60-ac100>
keep both
<lawrence>
we're still bouncing idea's around
<lawrence>
so its early days for what to use
<cobalt60-ac100>
if you find an LVDS panel you like at least well have a chip to us ein mind
<cobalt60-ac100>
Im just saying on the wiki list both
<lawrence>
sure
<lawrence>
as ANX is US based, maybe someone should drop them a line and ask about reference board / sample design / costing on that
<cobalt60-ac100>
Also why call the 10" a tab dock instead of a lapdock like the larger sizzes (written from my 10" ARM netbook)
<mnemoc>
cobalt60-ac100 seems to be US-based
<cobalt60-ac100>
yep I am
<mnemoc>
cobalt60-ac100: the 10" is intended as keyboard-less.... a dumb tablet
<mnemoc>
tabdock vs. lapdock
<cobalt60-ac100>
I like my 10" netbook
* mnemoc
sucks at naming
<cobalt60-ac100>
lol
<lawrence>
oh cool they're in shenzhen and beijing
<lawrence>
i can give them a call
<cobalt60-ac100>
LVDS isnt evil right? Are there particular advantages to using eDP instead of LVDS?
<lawrence>
LVDS is older tech, larger, more wires
<lawrence>
eDP is 4 wire
<lawrence>
pluses of LVDS - its readily available
<lawrence>
minuses - old tech, on way out
<lawrence>
pluses of eDP - less wire, newer , cheaper (so cheaper panels at higher res using that over LVDS)
<lawrence>
and less power usage
<cobalt60-ac100>
well, I think our target audience tends to hold onto their ARM devices a little longer than most (written from my Tegra2 netbook)
<lawrence>
given that we would need a pcb design for lcd driver anyway, why not go eDP
<lawrence>
as that also allows longer board lifetime / future upgradability
<cobalt60-ac100>
kk
<lawrence>
plus, they allege that arm is moving to eDP integration also in their PPT
<lawrence>
and finally less EMI issues with eDP.
<mnemoc>
are there DP dongles already? audio?
<lawrence>
HDMI is fraught with those
<lawrence>
so you have to be real careful with that in design
<lawrence>
analogix is pushing "slimport" as their "mhl" solution for display over wire
<lawrence>
and they're reusing usb style connector for the interface
<mnemoc>
with only 5 pins???
<lawrence>
the chipset(s) do audio, so not a problem to transport it