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<Necrosporus> What do you think about laptops based on wm8505 wm8650 wm8850 and so on?
<Necrosporus> Also what is the latest chip from them?
<Necrosporus> I know about wm8850 but it's pretty old by now
<Necrosporus> Also do anybody own laptops with them still?
<buZz> they are hell
<buZz> supercheap though
<Necrosporus> buZz, do you have laptop with them?
<buZz> you can pick those netbooks up used for like 10-20 euros
<buZz> we have one at the hackerspace
<buZz> takes 4 minutes to boot Windows CE :P
<Necrosporus> What is a hackerspace?
<buZz> Hackerspaces are community-operated physical places, where people share their interest in tinkering with technology, meet and work on their projects, and learn from each other.
<Necrosporus> buZz, I guess it boots android somewhat faster
<buZz> doubt it
<Necrosporus> Physical place?
<buZz> android has way higher requirements
<buZz> yes, not virtual
<buZz> you cant have laptops at virtual spaces, obviously :P
<Necrosporus> In what country is it?
<buZz> they are in all countries
<buZz> ours is in wageningen, netherlands
<buZz> actually, i think those wm8xxx chips arent even ARM
<buZz> they're MIPS
<Necrosporus> I'm pretty sure they are ARM
<buZz> ah, indeed , ARM9
<Necrosporus> buZz, you are mixing them upp with jz*
<buZz> so ARMv4 , i guess?
<buZz> pretty old
<Necrosporus> I guess it's ARMv5 though
<Necrosporus> Do you know how to test that?
<buZz> ok, so will require a lot of compiling to get to work ;)
<buZz> read the datasheet? :D
<Necrosporus> Where do you buy used arm netbooks?
<buZz> ebay etc
<Necrosporus> aliexpress has no laptops with wm chips anymore seems
<Necrosporus> Alright, so what ARM based laptop would you recomend nowadays?
<buZz> pyra
<buZz> chromebook
<Necrosporus> wm8* are probably not produced anymore
<buZz> pandora
<buZz> zipit z2
<Necrosporus> Pandora is even older than those arm laptops
<buZz> but a way faster cpu
<buZz> ARMv7
<buZz> and more ram, more storage, better interfaces
<buZz> those wm8505 laptops seems to typically have 128MB ram, and a 300mhz cpu
<Necrosporus> Zipit Z2 has intel PXA, it's really ancient
<buZz> but insanely cute
<buZz> and runs mainline linux
<Necrosporus> buZz, wm8650 have 256M ram and 800MHz CPU and usually 2-4G nvram
<buZz> ok. so still poor
<Necrosporus> wm8850 is faster
<buZz> ARMv5 at 800mhz is lightyears slower than 1Ghz ARMv7
<buZz> ah, pandora has 512MB ram, took a while to find
<buZz> pyra will have 4GB ram
<Necrosporus> WM8850 one core Cortex-A9, not sure what ARMv... it is, 512 RAM
<buZz> also, pyra allows cpu upgrades
<buZz> cortex a9 is armv7
<Necrosporus> So, wm8850 should be as fast as pandora
<buZz> well kinda doubt that, probably doesnt have NEON or GPU acceleration :)
<buZz> TI chips are really quite good
<Necrosporus> But 8850 is about 5 years newer
<buZz> benefit of pyra & pandora is mostly that they have a huge community building optimized software for it
<buZz> doesnt mean shit really :P
<Necrosporus> There is also GPD win though
<buZz> which is not ARM
<Necrosporus> it has copied Pandora design
<Necrosporus> there is GPD android
<Necrosporus> not sure what CPU it has
<buZz> there is x86 android yes
<buZz> some atom
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