#bitcoin-wizards on 2015-10-16 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2015-06-27 08:24 wumpus changed the topic of #bitcoin-wizards to: This channel is is for discussing theoretical ideas with regard to cryptocurrencies, not about short-term Bitcoin development | http://bitcoin.ninja/ | This channel is logged. | For logs and more information, visit http://bitcoin.ninja

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16:18 <zooko> Who's going to Scaling Bitcoin Hong Kong?

16:18 <zooko> I'm like 90% committed to going.

16:18 <zooko> I want a bunch of other people who are >90% committed to pull me along.

16:18 <zooko> This is a two phase commit protocol.

16:18 <zooko> (N phase.)

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16:28 <bramc> Essay is up https://medium.com/@bramcohen/how-wallets-can-handle-transaction-fees-ff5d020d14fb

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16:31 <kanzure> bramc: "need no lay down" -> "need to lay down"

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16:32 <kanzure> no claims to accuracy but in addition to video link perhaps text link http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/scalingbitcoin/transaction-fee-estimation/

16:33 <bramc> Since this essay is an expansion of the talk, a transcript of the talk is likely mostly an inferior version

16:35 <maaku> zooko: I'm committed

16:36 <maaku> just need to find time to write proposals for talks :\

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16:40 <zooko> maaku: awesome.

16:40 <zooko> bramc: Hong Kong?

16:40 <zooko> kanzure: Hong Kong?

16:42 <kanzure> nope, probably not

16:44 <zooko> ok

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16:45 <kanzure> i could be convinced but someone will have to put in the effort to do so

16:46 <bramc> I am not in or going to hong kong

16:46 <zooko> kanzure: Your service as scribe was so widely praised last time, maybe the organizers would fly you to HK in return for scribing.

16:46 <zooko> bramc: ok

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18:04 <bsm1175321> I'm going to HK for the next Scaling

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18:17 <andytoshi> zooko: i'll be there

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18:26 <gmaxwell> FWIW, I plugged this channel in BCF devcore today.

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18:27 <kanzure> is there a video feed? haven't found a link yet.

18:27 <gmaxwell> Seems not!

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18:30 <zooko> andytoshi: yay!

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18:30 <zooko> bsm1175321: have we met?

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18:34 <bitcoin-wizards5> As a non-developer, I am curous whether anyone here is planning to buy the 21 computer? If so, what do you plan to do with it? Thanks.

18:35 <kanzure> wrong channel

18:35 <kanzure> use #bitcoin

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18:52 <MRL-Relay> [shen] yesterdays post with at expanded sketch of tag-linkability theorems (section 5): https://github.com/ShenNoether/MiniNero/blob/master/RingCT0.3.pdf any feedback welcome

18:53 <MRL-Relay> [shen] also if anyone has a reference for the signatures in section 3.2, would be very happy

19:02 <gmaxwell> :-/ that pdf link doesn't yield a PDF.

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19:03 <MRL-Relay> [shen] ahh sorry.. hmm.. it does on mine (chrome)? hows docdroid?

19:04 <MRL-Relay> [shen] http://www.docdroid.net/jwM6Qsr/ringct03.pdf.html

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19:29 <MRL-Relay> [othe] https://github.com/ShenNoether/MiniNero/raw/master/RingCT0.3.pdf use the raw shen

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19:30 <MRL-Relay> [shen] I see, thanks

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19:37 <gmaxwell> adam3us: https://github.com/ShenNoether/MiniNero/raw/master/RingCT0.3.pdf

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21:16 <kanzure> anyone know papers about signal-noise ratio studies for online communities?

21:17 <kanzure> i am particularly interested ins tudies of increasing signal over time, not just the dreaded signal decay function

21:17 <kanzure> i'd be interested in even basic contributions like testable definitions of signal and whether it's the same kind of information theoretic signal

21:19 <helo> there are so many interesting sociological studies that could be done (but probably never will be)

21:19 <kanzure> like what?

21:20 <helo> it takes an expert understanding of sociology, information theory, and the particular domain being assessed, so i think the barrier is just too high

21:22 <helo> leadership in decentralized communities

21:22 <kanzure> expertise is overrated; tell me the details.

21:22 <helo> i don't have details, i should have used "i'm sure there are so many..."

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23:50 <kanzure> "A toy crypto-currency based on a discrete logarithm zero-knowledge protocol, in <95 lines" https://github.com/vpostman/logcoin

23:50 <kanzure> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10402312

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