#bitcoin-wizards on 2016-11-01 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

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00:30 <maaku> that link is just an txid-indexed patricia trie, right?

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00:51 <andytoshi> maaku: that is what it looks like, yes

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13:25 <cjd> Howdy folks, does anyone know if there is some writing about blockchain consensus systems as effective States (a.k.a nationstates)

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13:26 <ansuz> hello friends

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15:45 <musalbas> this is very interesting http://cba.mit.edu/docs/theses/01.03.pappuphd.powf.pdf

15:45 <musalbas> Physical hash functions that you can use to 'hash' real-world objects

15:45 <musalbas> Allowing you to make unforgable link between physical objects and cryptographic systems

15:45 <kanzure> are these "phsically unclonable functions"

15:47 <musalbas> dunno

15:47 <musalbas> I think it's more than just making unclonable objects

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15:58 <musalbas> I think the idea is that you can 'scan' an object and get a unique hash for it

15:59 <musalbas> So that if someone tries to make a copy of an object, it would have a different hash, unless it had the same molecular structure

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16:13 <kanzure> musalbas: https://github.com/kanzure/nanoengineer for precision molecular processing

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16:42 <bsm1175321> That seems really really hard to get repeatable measurements for your input. There's going to be an error rate for producing a different hash.

16:44 <ansuz> inb4 .gov forces people to unlock their iphones with their physical hash

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18:08 <fluffypony> ansuz: so...facial recognition? :-P

18:09 <ansuz> idk

18:09 <ansuz> I just work here

18:09 <ansuz> you dev monero, yea?

18:12 <fluffypony> Yes, but that's off-topic here :)

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19:14 <fluffypony> http://eprint.iacr.org/2016/1026

19:14 <fluffypony> .title http://eprint.iacr.org/2016/1026

19:14 <yoleaux> Cryptology ePrint Archive: Report 2016/1026

19:15 <fluffypony> it's Ring-LWE Signatures

19:15 <fluffypony> "we present a full-fledged software implementation protected against timing and cache attacks that supports two scheme variants: one providing 128 bits of classical security and another providing 128 bits of post-quantum security"

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