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<jtimon> JackH: of course not
<jtimon> bip9 is just coordination
<jtimon> until it's not deployed it's not "deployed" in any sense
<jtimon> of course "deploy" is a node-by-node choice
<jtimon> s/deployed/coordinated/ two lines ago
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<Taek> The recent scaling bitcoin was at least partially dedicated to fungibility. It's something that a lot of people seem to be working on right now, I think the conference would be successful
<Taek> I was unable to find anything quite like this, but I wouldn't be surprised if the idea already exists somewhere:
<Taek> use stealth addresses to break apart transactions
<Taek> When doing blockchain analysis, one of the most significant methods of de-anonymization (as far as I understand) is looking at places where multiple outputs are used in the same transaction
<Taek> but with stealth addresses, you can make a payment to someone without ever combining outputs
<Taek> For each output you make a different transaction, and then that transaction has either 1 or 2 outputs (depending on change), and you end up with 5 or 6 transactions all going towards the same payment
<Taek> but it's not obvious to an observer that all of the transactions have the same origin
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<Taek> The disadvantage is that ouitputs can only get smaller. But maybe there's some way to combine outputs in separate steps without revealing too much information.
<Taek> e.g. CoinJoin
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<Taek> * s/the conference/a fungibility conference/g
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<kanzure> Taek: yes i think the assumption there is that the sender has many outputs. it's a 'uniques' outputs bandwidth issue.
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