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<oleganza>
Hopefully we have given proper credit to all the prior research in the area, but if we have omitted someone or something, please let me know!
<kanzure>
this seems very similar to another scheme
<bsm1175321>
Indeed it does...
<kanzure>
they were even calling it "confidential assets" too hehe
<bsm1175321>
They had to construct a "range proof" that their "asset IDs" aren't the negative of one another!
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* bsm1175321
keeps hoping for a breakthrough that would shrink the size of CT's...
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<waxwing>
bsm117532: yeah that's the holy grail right now. on oleganza 's article, i'm wondering why base 10 digit commitments aren't too bloaty? is it because it's for some kind of non-public blockchain?
<oleganza>
waxwing: base10 was used as an example. A bit below we mention that we actually use base4, as in CT.
<waxwing>
OK, got it
<oleganza>
it's just easier to illustrate with decimal numbers
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<waxwing>
i did it with base 4 :)
<waxwing>
i don't understand the comments above "it seems very similar" - it's explicitly work derived from CT, right.
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<othe>
Non-confidential inputs can be transferred into confidential outputs, and vice versa. --- how does that not totally screw up the already screwed privacy
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<oleganza>
Re: Non-confidential inputs can be transferred into confidential outputs, and vice versa. --- how does that not totally screw up the already screwed privacy
<oleganza>
othe: transferring public values to confidential ones _improves_ privacy. As for the opposite, you might need to do that for some specific contracts that need to introspect plaintext values to enforce some rules. However, we are working on VM extensions that would allow to do most necessary math using blinded values to avoid revealing them.
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<Eliel>
does someone know what routing algorithm is implemented in the current lightning network alpha releases?
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<MaxSan1>
Rusty wrote about it
<MaxSan1>
check medium
<MaxSan1>
im sure its in there
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<waxwing>
yeah i thought they had something pretty close to an RFC already
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<stevenroose>
waxwing, Eliel, the protocols they are specifying in the RFCs are not necessarily the ones implemented in the lnd alpha release. They still have parts that do not comply with the protocols