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<Monnik> Anyone home?
<Monnik> Figure I would share the following here. The thought just popped into my head just now, and it was not the first time it did, so time to pin it down
<Monnik> First, I see the highest abstraction of what Bitcoin is, as a consensus network
<Monnik> And the most basic consensus, beside the accounting of all the tx's, is order
<Monnik> The sequence through time, one after the other
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<Monnik> Basicly, Bitcoin is a global clock
<Monnik> on which we can all agree what time it is, but also in what order time was
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<Monnik> But what is the significance of clocks, and the consensus on time?
<Monnik> We build towers with big clocks on them
<Monnik> with big bells in them, to alert everyone on what time it is
<Monnik> Some people are concerned about the energy use of Bitcoin....but what on earth pushed us to putting all that effort into making giant communal alarm-clocks
<Monnik> We have a reasonable understanding of the significance of clocks and the consensus of time, we have been working with it for a while now
<Monnik> ever since the end of the middle ages.....around the early modern period, where we saw big advancements in time-keeping devices.
<Monnik> But ofcourse sun and moon where always there. In any event
<Monnik> I suggest this approach to 'understanding' Bitcoin
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<Monnik> Not in its pure technical definition as explained by the code, or drawings of its network architecture
<Monnik> But in its significance towards human society
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<nsh> #bitcoin
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<musalbas> Monnik: yes, timestamps is the technology that makes bitcoin possible: https://twitter.com/Blockstream/status/1112622891940507651
<nsh> hah
<sipa> not sure to what extent things are meant in jest, but i think it's confusing to reduce the point of the chain to timestamping
<sipa> clearly timestamping events is not enough to guarantee transactions are valid
<sipa> the point is guaranteeing that everyone has seen the same data
<sipa> not just commitments to it
<andytoshi> would you consider it fair to say that "timestamps and publication" cover all the essential functionality of the bitcoin blockchain?
<andytoshi> proof-of-publication
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