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<bsm1175321>
While bitcoin just removed BIP70 and the last vestiges of OpenSSL, I'm seeing a lot of activity in the institutional space to bring it back with a vengance in the form of "compliance with the Travel Rule".
<bsm1175321>
We're unlikely to convince governments to allow bitcoin providers to not comply with the travel rule.
<bsm1175321>
As such, does anyone have any clever cryptographic ideas that might allow providers to comply with the travel rule while not creating moral hazards?
<bsm1175321>
(e.g. naive implementations could easily create a "walled garden" or honeypots of data for extortion, or lead to miners censoring transactions without travel rule data)
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<Dean_Guss>
bsm1175321 what does bip70 have to do with the travel rule? nothing afaict
<Dean_Guss>
also regulated entities (exchanges, etc) are the ones who have to comply, not the bitcoin protocol
<Dean_Guss>
and they have all the tools they need (private databases) in order to comply
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<ethzero>
<bsm1175321> What is the travel rule and how is it related to OpenSSL?
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<gmaxwell>
Dean_Guss: when they make a payment from one eachange to another they want to send user data. Bitcoin provides no facility to do this. Which is fine with me.
<gmaxwell>
The regulated exchanges have mostly been bad actors in the Bitcoin ecosystem, so if they expect free labor from volunteer open source developers they're going to be waiting a long time... particularly when it's for initatives which are detrimental to personal freedom and privacy.
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<ethzero>
So it is not so much openSSL as BIP70?
<ethzero>
since BIP70 depends on openSSL
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<gmaxwell>
ethzero: getting rid of BIP70 with its x509 and https requirements was hurried on by a desire to ditch openssl. Otherwise, BIP70 wasn't very useful or used, but there probably wouldn't have been that much interest in taking it out either.
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